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Shirasaki

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I edited my post. If no passcode, I have to press the home button. With passcode, I can at least just place my finger on the home button without having to press. Still, swiping anywhere on the screen is just faster than trying to get my finger on the home button.
Then I would not say I often find myself need to swipe twice if not even more times to unlock the phone when I hold it one-handed.
In fact I really like this change because as long as your finger is on home button, you can always unlock your device. Just a few clicks.
 
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Shirasaki

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B) Post-10:

1. Black screen; press home button; screen wakes; phone shows unlocked with small icon at top; MUST press home button again to unlock
I have tried 3 times and non of them requires me to explicitly press home button a second time to unlock the phone from black screen.
What I do is:
1. Screen black.
2. Press home button with registered finger.
3. Rest finger on it a short while until iOS enters home screen.

So i don't know why you have this issue.

Edit: I didn't know I was late.
 
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VSG

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What you are saying may all be true, but the convenience of having a Notification Center and at the same time the unlock method is only valid when using a TouchID device.

On my iPad 4 and even the iPad Air there's is no TouchID and you have to press the home button twice to get to the home screen. One to unlock, one to the home screen (no code set).
And that's just annoying.
 
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Night Spring

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What you are saying may all be true, but the convenience of having a Notification Center and at the same time the unlock method is only valid when using a TouchID device.

On my iPad 4 and even the iPad Air there's is no TouchID and you have to press the home button twice to get to the home screen. One to unlock, one to the home screen (no code set).
And that's just annoying.

Very valid point! They need to change this for non-TouchID devices. I also feel like even for TouchID device, people should have an option NOT to set a passcode and TouchID, and be able to get to the home screen without having to press the home button twice. I don't like the feeling of being forced to use TouchID -- it should be an option, not a requirement in order to avoid a jerky user experience.
 
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VSG

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So, here comes Public Beta 2 and still no change to this inconvenient behavior.

Plus other reported bugs such as when typing something here are still not fixed. Bummer.
 

T5BRICK

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So, here comes Public Beta 2 and still no change to this inconvenient behavior.

Plus other reported bugs such as when typing something here are still not fixed. Bummer.

This isn't a bug, it's the new default function for the home button, I presume because 6s and 6s+ users complained that touchID was too fast and they couldn't see the notifications on their lock screen.

You can easily return to the previous functionality by flipping a toggle in Settings > General > Accessibility > Home Button.
 

Switchback666

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On my 6s plus **** is working nice, I don't have to press the damm home button anymore to unlock, just pickup the phone and screen lights up :) just rest finger and it unlocks to homescreen, if I just want to check notifications just don't touch the home button.
 

VSG

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On my 6s plus **** is working nice, I don't have to press the damm home button anymore to unlock, just pickup the phone and screen lights up :) just rest finger and it unlocks to homescree.
Try this with an iPad and tell me how it works out.

You can easily return to the previous functionality by flipping a toggle in Settings > General > Accessibility > Home Button.
Doesn't work on iPad.

Any other suggestions? Right now it is really inconvenient.
 

Feenician

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Try this with an iPad and tell me how it works out.


Doesn't work on iPad.

Any other suggestions? Right now it is really inconvenient.


Doesn't help you much but I tested it and it works fine on my iPP. I didn't leave it enabled because I don't require accessibility options enabled and can press the button however.
 

VSG

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Doesn't help you much but I tested it and it works fine on my iPP. I didn't leave it enabled because I don't require accessibility options enabled and can press the button however.
That's good to hear, but when going to Accessibility > Home Button on an iPad without TouchID the only thing you can change is click-speed - there is no other option. :(
 

C DM

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That's good to hear, but when going to Accessibility > Home Button on an iPad without TouchID the only thing you can change is click-speed - there is no other option. :(
Well, that would make sense given that leaving the finger on the home button wouldn't do anything for a non-TouchID device.
 

VSG

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Well, that would make sense given that leaving the finger on the home button wouldn't do anything for a non-TouchID device.
Right, but that means Apple's new unlock method only works for TouchID devices with TouchID enabled. Everyone else has to push the Home Button twice to get to the lock screen (on iPad) - and also if you have "raise to wake" disabled on iPhone.

That's just ... not easy to use.
 
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C DM

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Right, but that means Apple's new unlock method only works for TouchID devices with TouchID enabled. Everyone else has to push the Home Button twice to get to the lock screen (on iPad) - and also if you have "raise to wake" disabled on iPhone.

That's just ... not easy to use.
Pressing the same button twice is not easy to use? Compared to pressing a button and then moving the finger and sliding something over?
 
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C DM

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It doesn't.

Settings> General> Accessibility> Home Button and toggle "Rest Finger to Open".

I think I've said this a million times now.
To be fair, I don't think that was working back on July 7th (prior to developer beta 3/public beta 2 basically).
 

Night Spring

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Pressing the same button twice is not easy to use? Compared to pressing a button and then moving the finger and sliding something over?

In iOS versions before iOS 10, if you had a Smart Cover on your iPad, and no passcode set, then you just had to flip open the cover and the iPad went directly to the home screen, or whatever app you were using when you closed the cover. No pushing buttons or swiping needed at all. Now that option seems to be gone.
 

lagwagon

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Right, but that means Apple's new unlock method only works for TouchID devices with TouchID enabled. Everyone else has to push the Home Button twice to get to the lock screen (on iPad) - and also if you have "raise to wake" disabled on iPhone.

That's just ... not easy to use.

How in the world is pressing the home button then moving your hand/fingers to the screen and then swiping over to the right quicker or easier than two quick presses on the home button that requires absolutely zero further movement?

I'm sorry, but this is just a case of "I don't like change" even when the change is technically fewer steps and easier.
 

Night Spring

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Jul 17, 2008
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How in the world is pressing the home button then moving your hand/fingers to the screen and then swiping over to the right quicker or easier than two quick presses on the home button that requires absolutely zero further movement?

I'm sorry, but this is just a case of "I don't like change" even when the change is technically fewer steps and easier.

I already explained how it affects those of us who are using Smart Cover without passcode.

As for those people who were doing press and swipe, well sure, we only have to retrain our muscular memory. But why should we have to do it when it gives us no benefit whataoever? Getting rid of muscular memory that's been ingrained over 5 years is hard!
 

stooovie

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Nov 21, 2010
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How in the world is pressing the home button then moving your hand/fingers to the screen and then swiping over to the right quicker or easier than two quick presses on the home button that requires absolutely zero further movement?

I'm sorry, but this is just a case of "I don't like change" even when the change is technically fewer steps and easier.
More steps CAN be more convenient if that way is more reliable than the newer method. Worse still, we now have two different methods necessary to unlock the device as iPads don't support Raise to wake. It does introduce a higher mental load, no matter how you slice it. Also, Touch ID doesn't register in 100 % of cases, so you end up wondering if you have to press the damn button once more or not. It may get more reliable as development goes on.
 

mconk

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Mar 10, 2009
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On the iPad Air 2, I've always unlocked the same way I unlock my phone, which is simply pressing the home button and letting Touch ID do the work. I very rarely use the sleep/wake button to unlock, and when I do it's only to check notifications or dismiss them. This method still works with iOS 10.

I do see that when specifically pressing the sleep/wake button, iOS 10 now wants you to 'press home to unlock' and to me, it makes perfect sense.

If my behavior is to wake the iPad with the sleep/wake button, I'm likely going to just check my notifications...and if I need to dive deeper, then my finger has to go to the home button anyway to unlock with Touch ID. Now I just have to push the button instead of resting it.

So it's the same action still. Grab device, push home and wait for Touch ID to unlock. OR, if I want to check notifications now, I can grab device, push home and release - then check/dismiss notifications. If I want to go further, I can push to unlock again. No need to ever use the sleep/wake button to unlock. That aspect hasn't changed at all.

As I said above...you've still got to place your finger on Touch ID after pressing the sleep/wake button with previous versions of iOS on iPad. So pushing to unlock makes sense (to me) now that you've got more rich notifications and widgets on the lock screen at your disposal. Rather than whizzing by them while unlocking with Touxh ID, a second step has been introduced.

I'm sure an on/off toggle will come out of this soon enough, though.
 
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