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There already is
Although that likely doesn't change much for devices that don't support TouchID.
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Are you referring to 'rest finger to unlock'? Haven't gotten to b3 yet. This toggle in b2 seems to have zero effect on my iPad though. Same actions unlock with it on or off.
It works in developer beta 3/public beta 2.
 

Feenician

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Are you referring to 'rest finger to unlock'? Haven't gotten to b3 yet. This toggle in b2 seems to have zero effect on my iPad though. Same actions unlock with it on or off.

Yep, it did nothing in that release
 

mconk

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Although that likely doesn't change much for devices that don't support TouchID.
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It works in developer beta 3/public beta 2.
Weird. Playing catch up on PB2 while reading be forums. I toggled this on/off, while following my normal unlock routine, and noticed no difference.

With toggle off:
Press home button once to wake screen while resting finger on Touch ID
Screen wakes
iPad then unlocks, release finger

About 1.5 seconds for this to happen.

Also messed around with the unlock methods. Tried using the sleep/wake button, then resting finger on Touch ID to unlock and go to the home screen (without pressing). After about a second or two, the 'Press home' message displays, but if you rest your finger before the message, it'll let you in every time. This is all with the toggle off btw. Whether waking the screen with the home button, or the sleep/wake button, resting on Touch ID is letting me in every time, unless I take a few extra seconds at the lock screen.

With the toggle on, I didn't noticed any change in behavior with any of the above methods. After a few seconds at the lock screen, you still have to press home.
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Yep, it did nothing in that release
Never mind. Sorry, like I said I'm playing some serious catch up. Been away for a while. Looks like I'm running B1 still. Thought I was going insane for a minute.
 

stulaw11

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Did we REALLY need yet another home button thread? There were already many threads complaining about this whopping extra finger press.
 
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Shirasaki

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For Smart Cover users, I didn't remember but there was an option to control smart cover behaviours. I am sure this in iOS 10 will be added later on.
 

VSG

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Pressing the same button twice is not easy to use? Compared to pressing a button and then moving the finger and sliding something over?
How in the world is pressing the home button then moving your hand/fingers to the screen and then swiping over to the right quicker or easier than two quick presses on the home button that requires absolutely zero further movement?
I'm sorry, but this is just a case of "I don't like change" even when the change is technically fewer steps and easier.
Please, people, try to think outside of what you use your devices for and what your personal setup is, just for once.

I use my iPad at home and solely at home, so there is no use for a passcode. I use it with a Smart Cover.
Up until iOS 9 I simply had to flip the Smart Cover and get to the Home Screen. Now I have to flip it to unlock it and look at the Lock Screen and press the Home Button to get to the Home Screen. This is one unnecessary step and considering how often I use the iPad a day that step gets multiplied a dozen times.

I don't need to look at the Lock Screen since I usually don't have any notifications there - I see and clear them via my Apple Watch that I carry on my wrist all the time, so the only thing Apple did was force me to look at their redesigned Lock Screen which is totally empty!
This has got nothing to do with "don't like change", there are numerous things I like about iOS 10 and the redesigned Lock Screen makes perfect sense for TouchID devices with TouchID or passcode enabled. Those who don't use it are forced to press their Home Buttons once more - and that is unnecessarily inconvenient.

Did we REALLY need yet another home button thread? There were already many threads complaining about this whopping extra finger press.
This was back then one of the first and the one I "revived" a few days ago, sorry.

For Smart Cover users, I didn't remember but there was an option to control smart cover behaviours. I am sure this in iOS 10 will be added later on.
This option is still there - you "unlock" the device by lifting the Smart Cover, but you still have to press the Home Button to get to the Home Screen (lifting the Cover acts like a first press on the Home Button).

So it's the same action still. Grab device, push home and wait for Touch ID to unlock. OR, if I want to check notifications now, I can grab device, push home and release - then check/dismiss notifications. If I want to go further, I can push to unlock again. No need to ever use the sleep/wake button to unlock. That aspect hasn't changed at all.
It has for everyone else who doesn't use (or whose device doesn't support) TouchID.

Guys, the thing is as simple as this:
If Apple lets users of iOS devices that don't support TouchID decide to unlock and go to the Home Screen in one jump by pressing the Home Button (or removing the Smart Cover) everything would be fine - those people cover millions of iPad 4th gen. and iPad Air users. But right now it seems Apple doesn't care. They got back to me on my reporting a bug but I reported this twice now and no reaction. Probably because iOS 10 gets tested with iPad Pros and newer.

The really annoying thing is: If iOS was smart enough to skip the empty Lock Screen if there were no notifications on these devices, I could live with it. But whether you have any notifications or not, you unlock the device to go to an empty screen only to get prompted to press the Home Button to get to the Home Screen. That is not ease-of-use.
 

Marshall73

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For Smart Cover users, I didn't remember but there was an option to control smart cover behaviours. I am sure this in iOS 10 will be added later on.

There is no mention of smart covers anywhere in the iPad Pro settings on iOS 9. Could be because I have Touch ID enabled. The cover does wake the device though, just no option anywhere to control it.
 

megalaser

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They've ruined the login to home screen experience with this nonsense of pressing the button twice, it just feels like the button is broken compared to the IOS9 way. I am constantly pressing and repressing just to open the phone
 
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lagwagon

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But right now it seems Apple doesn't care.

They really don't care too much about devices that don't include Touch ID. There has been Touch ID on 3 generations now (for iPhone) and soon to be the 4th. Older non Touch ID devices are in the past, not current and hasn't been a part of the future moving forward for some time now. To Apple those older devices are not as secure and want people on newer devices.

The change has been based off 5s and up (mostly the new 3D Touch Home button if that rumour is true.) iOS needs to be designed for present and future. Not 4 years ago.

I'm not defending it. Just stating the reality. As with all things. Those who hold onto things for ever, suffer with.
 

Shirasaki

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There is no mention of smart covers anywhere in the iPad Pro settings on iOS 9. Could be because I have Touch ID enabled. The cover does wake the device though, just no option anywhere to control it.
Which could be a potential deal breaker for a lot of iPad users, with Smart Cover.
Hope Apple adds options for it. At least, they still sells them!
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This option is still there - you "unlock" the device by lifting the Smart Cover, but you still have to press the Home Button to get to the Home Screen (lifting the Cover acts like a first press on the Home Button).
Sad. Apple think Smart Cover is obsolete? o_O
 
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lagwagon

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They got back to me on my reporting a bug but I reported this twice now and no reaction.

I really don't hope you actually expect Apple to reply to each and every single feedback they receive. If you are, you're expecting WAY too much.

They reply to things they can't reproduce or is something completely new or different no one has reported. They reply to the first sender not the 10,000th on a particular bug.
 

Shirasaki

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They've ruined the login to home screen experience with this nonsense of pressing the button twice, it just feels like the button is broken compared to the IOS9 way. I am constantly pressing and repressing just to open the phone
I have experience using this way to unlock. So I can understand what you are saying. Obviously annoying.
 

Night Spring

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Which could be a potential deal breaker for a lot of iPad users, with Smart Cover.
Hope Apple adds options for it. At least, they still sells them!

Yes, exactly. Smart Covers are called "smart" because of the auto-wake function when you flip it open. The iOS 10 way of forcing people to press the Home button to unlock the iPad renders the auto-wake useless/redundant. So now the thing about the Smart Cover that gave it its name is gone. Yes, it's still being sold, but it's not so smart anymore.
 
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Marshall73

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Which could be a potential deal breaker for a lot of iPad users, with Smart Cover.
Hope Apple adds options for it. At least, they still sells them!
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Sad. Apple think Smart Cover is obsolete? o_O
The Smart Cover unlocking automitically had to go anyway if you wanted to secure your device.
 

Marshall73

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Yeah, but not everyone needs to secure their iPads, like those people who only use it at home.

Well if you don't secure it you can't use any features like keychain etc. For the sake of a 2 second button press you lose functionality, but each to their own.
 

Shirasaki

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The Smart Cover unlocking automitically had to go anyway if you wanted to secure your device.
Then the Smart Cover is just a cover. No more "smart". Then why the heck I pay premium price to buy a case which is...you know, cannot use all of its features? o_O
 
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Marshall73

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Then the Smart Cover is just a cover. No more "smart". Then why the heck I pay premium price to buy a case which is...you know, cannot use all of its features? o_O

It wakes up the iPad, which was as smart as it ever was.
 
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Night Spring

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It wakes up the iPad, which was as smart as it ever was.

Depends on whether iPad that is just displaying notifications is useful to you. If iOS 10 doesn't change so that flipping open the cover takes you directly to the home screen or last used app, I suspect I will no longer be buying Smart Covers.
 

VSG

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They did it!
Since yesterday's Public Beta 3 update, when you have no code set and no notification, lifting the Smart Cover takes you directly to the home screen.

Finally! Thank you, :apple:! :)
 
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Shirasaki

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They did it!
Since yesterday's Public Beta 3 update, when you have no code set and no notification, lifting the Smart Cover takes you directly to the home screen.

Finally! Thank you, :apple:! :)
Just hope this is what they WANT to do, not being done by accident.
 
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