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Nexus 5

Vegastouch

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appledes7 said:
1. That was never the argument.
2. It wasn't hard to beat the Nexus 4.



That was true until the Galaxy Nexus. It was the first Nexus that started moving over into flagship territory. The Nexus 4 was the first and most obvious. 2GB RAM, high PPI screen (for the time), and the fastest CPU out. All of these combined were only on a couple other phones, all of which costed nearly double the price. Same principle for the Nexus 5.

But again, whether or not the Nexus line is a flagship isn't the argument.


Ok cool.


That was never something I debated. In fact, the price going up is a good thing for camera quality and battery capacity. It means they are more likely to be better. Now you are finally understanding what I was meaning in my very first comment.
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I still dont think the camera is bad. Its fine for casual use. I certainly wouldnt use it for my kids graduation pictures but i wouldnt bring any phone camera for that. Moments like that deserve a real camera.

A bigger battery and a better camera arent big expenses to add. I think the iPhone camera is $12 for them. The N5 has many of the same specs as flagships at that time and still it was much cheaper.
The Galaxy S5 costs $256 to build. Why didnt Google use a better camera? Well they did. A lot better than the Nexus 4. The battery in my N5 is better than the battery in my GS3 was t while being smaller.
 
hollandog

hollandog

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Couples HDR mode test shots with not the best lighting. Surprisingly the N5 focused faster and more accurate under the test.
Guess which one is N5.

1.

2.



1 = N5
2 = iPhone 5S
 
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F123D said:
I think appledes7 wants you to take pictures of kids running around in the dark.. ;):p
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I don't think any phones are capable of doing that. not even a full frame DSLR with a fast lens can do it well consistently without proper lighting or flash.

If you look at the 100% of the above shots, the 5S capture actually has noticeably more noises than the N5. Image is less sharp as well but I think that's due to N5 applied more sharpen and more noise reduction with it's image processing. But nobody post process their phone pictures so I think the N5 won the above comparison for as is quality.

FYI, I took 2 shots from the N5 and picked the better one out of two. I took 5+ shots from the iPhone and this is the best I could get. It could be due to I'm not used to the iPhone camera but I don't think it's rocket science.
 
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milo

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F123D said:
I think appledes7 wants you to take pictures of kids running around in the dark.
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Well, taking a picture of a person (or dog, or anything that doesn't sit perfectly still) would be a good start. I don't think there has been a single picture posted that wasn't of assorted objects.
 
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appledes7 said:
You should go back to my original post that started this ridiculous debate from people who never read. My comment was in response to the rumors of higher end "Silver" phones from Google. Higher end phones will likely cost more, but will likely have better battery life and a better camera. Apparently stating what I consider to be fairly obvious causes every stereotypical android fan on this side of the forums to flip at the slightest hint of negativity towards their precious Google.
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Actually at the top of page 193 you posted a comment to how the Nexus 5 camera was crap, that's what started the debate.
 
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Vegastouch

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apolloa said:
Actually at the top of page 193 you posted a comment to his the Nexus 5 camera was crap, that's what started the debate.
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Right, and this below from the bottom of page 192 which is the same thing but this is the original post. Some can read just fine ;)

Originally Posted by appledes7
Maybe we will finally have a stock Android phone that doesn't have crap battery life and a crap camera.
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apolloa said:
Actually at the top of page 193 you posted a comment to his the Nexus 5 camera was crap, that's what started the debate.
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The thing that started it was my comment about camera and battery on the Nexus line and how with a higher end Silver line these will improve.

Vegastouch said:
Some can read just fine
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So far they can't.

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Here is an example of a "quick snap" in average indoor lighting. This is why the Nexus 5 camera is awful compared to other flagships:

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I actually took this same picture 3 times. This was the best one to come out. If anybody actually thinks this picture is good quality, any opinion you have is discredited in my book.
 
Vegastouch

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appledes7 said:
The thing that started it was my comment about camera and battery on the Nexus line and how with a higher end Silver line these will improve.



So far they can't.

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Here is an example of a "quick snap" in average indoor lighting. This is why the Nexus 5 camera is awful compared to other flagships:

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Original image file here

I actually took this same picture 3 times. This was the best one to come out. If anybody actually thinks this picture is good quality, any opinion you have is discredited in my book.
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Which you said was "crap". Maybe you cant read what you wrote.

And that picture isnt good....and what is that ugly old looking device? That picture is worse than the one i posted.
 
hollandog

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appledes7 said:
The thing that started it was my comment about camera and battery on the Nexus line and how with a higher end Silver line these will improve.



So far they can't.

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Here is an example of a "quick snap" in average indoor lighting. This is why the Nexus 5 camera is awful compared to other flagships:

Image
Original image file here

I actually took this same picture 3 times. This was the best one to come out. If anybody actually thinks this picture is good quality, any opinion you have is discredited in my book.
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looks like either that lighting you had was really really dim that the phone had to push the ISO way high.

I can't tell how the lighting condition was but I bet the iPhone 5s would have a similar result if you have one to test.

for such low light condition even my d800 I have to push it to ISO 3200 f2.8, probably 1/8 sec shutter and a steady hand for a decent picture.
 
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Vegastouch said:
Which you said was "crap". Maybe you cant read what you wrote.

And that picture isnt good....and what is that ugly old looking device? That picture is worse than the one i posted.
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Ugly old device? That pretty much discredits everything you have ever said.

hollandog said:
looks like either that lighting you had was really really dim that the phone had to push the ISO way high.

I can't tell how the lighting condition was but I bet the iPhone 5s would have a similar result if you have one to test.

for such low light condition even my d800 I have to push it to ISO 3200 f2.8, probably 1/8 sec shutter and a steady hand for a decent picture.
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appledes7 said:
Here is an example of a "quick snap" in average indoor lighting.
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Lighting conditions were actually a little better than average IMO since a little bit of natural light was coming in through the mostly closed blinds. But this is what average quick snaps look like on the Nexus 5. So many other phones out there take way better quick snaps than this in the same lighting.
 
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strausd

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apolloa said:
Actually at the top of page 193 you posted a comment to how the Nexus 5 camera was crap, that's what started the debate.
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It looks like it was actually the post on the page before.

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I have a Nexus 5, ordered it when it came out, and camera quality has always seemed sub-par to me. Even compared to iPhone 5s's and 5's that I've used in the past. In some cases I held an iPhone in one hand and the Nexus in the other and the pictures from the iPhone in almost every case indoors looked noticeably better. The picture posted earlier showing an Intuos Pro is about what you can expect from a Nexus 5 indoors. It is just not a good camera.

I am sure I am not the only one looking forward to a Silver line. Higher quality phones means higher quality components. A google-made phone with a top quality camera could finally be coming.
 
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appledes7 said:
Ugly old device? That pretty much discredits everything you have ever said.





Lighting conditions were actually a little better than average IMO since a little bit of natural light was coming in through the mostly closed blinds. But this is what average quick snaps look like on the Nexus 5. So many other phones out there take way better quick snaps than this in the same lighting.
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My N5 and my wife's 5S had similar image quality under normal/poor indoor lighting condition. I'm not sure what happened there. Either I got a better camera N5 or my wife has a defective 5S.
 
hollandog

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Just did another test. This time under very poor lighting condition. So bad that to the point where I couldn't get a decent hand held shot from my D800 with the 24-70 lens under ISO 3200, F2.8, and 1/6 sec shutter.



First group HDR mode.
N5


iPhone 5S
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Second group normal mode.
N5


iPhone 5S
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And a shot from my D800 for comparison.
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Comparing the N5 and the 5S, the 5S has a slightly faster lens. but I wouldn't say the N5 camera is crap comparing to the 5S. They are both phone camera quality that you can tell right away. If you think the N5 shot is bad, I think they are both bad.

Sure 5S images are brighter but at the same time it's generating more noises by boosting the brightness. Looks like the boosting is done by the post processing engine because both phones shot at ISO 2500-ish and 1/10 sec shutter. Only difference is that iPhone has F2.2 where N5 has F2.4.

I think HDR+ mode is where N5's camera has advantage over iPhone's. If you are shooting with normal mode, I suggest you try the HDR+.
 
AustinIllini

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Is anyone else having a number of connectivity issues? Spotify just cuts out, internet shows as disconnected, and Bluetooth won't connect to your car? I'm getting a little perturbed.
 
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AustinIllini said:
Is anyone else having a number of connectivity issues? Spotify just cuts out, internet shows as disconnected, and Bluetooth won't connect to your car? I'm getting a little perturbed.
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I'm having GPS issues with the GPS lock going in and out. Its driving me crazy during navigation... I'm going to flash the 4.4.3 factory image tonight to see if it improves.
 
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