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Nexus-N/Pixel XL ( 2016 )
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If Huawei does make another Nexus this year, only makes sense for Google to partner up with them being the #3 most popular OEM in world and the most popular Chinese OEM.
Samsung will probably want more money if Google ever asked them to make a Nexus device. The Samsung Nexus phones were never truly that great. Nexus S removed sd slot and was a plastic update to the Nexus One. Galaxy Nexus did bring ICS but was plagued with a weak TI OMAP SoC and a weak 1800+ mAh to try to power a 720p screen.
I just hope Huawei applies more of the Mate and P series to the Nexus design than what they offered with the 6P. Both HTC and Huawei can come up with some killer designs that LG hasn't really matched yet.
Samsung will probably want more money if Google ever asked them to make a Nexus device. The Samsung Nexus phones were never truly that great. Nexus S removed sd slot and was a plastic update to the Nexus One. Galaxy Nexus did bring ICS but was plagued with a weak TI OMAP SoC and a weak 1800+ mAh to try to power a 720p screen.
I just hope Huawei applies more of the Mate and P series to the Nexus design than what they offered with the 6P. Both HTC and Huawei can come up with some killer designs that LG hasn't really matched yet.
If the Nexus line is still for dev's like it was intended a mid range 5" phone is important because low to mid-range phones dominate the Android sphere
I want a 5" personally but one with the cpu/gpu/ram of its phablet brother.
The poor old nexus 5x was very much hamstrung by its 2gb and the 808 snapdragon which despite less performance than its 810 brother actually generated more heat and had worse battery life too.
The poor old nexus 5x was very much hamstrung by its 2gb and the 808 snapdragon which despite less performance than its 810 brother actually generated more heat and had worse battery life too.
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So make the phablet mid range then
Tons of other premium phablets to choose from, not many premium 5" phones
This perfectly personifies the disconnect between the discussions on forums liked these and the rest of the world when it comes to smartphones.
A bunch of Jeopardy nerds have never heard of Android or Marshmallow.
A bunch of Jeopardy nerds have never heard of Android or Marshmallow.
The more I think about a back finger print scanner, the more I think it's a worthy idea.
It's simply a better use of space.
If the fingerprint scanner can work so effectively on the back, then it's just better there so that the front can be left either sleek and clean, or allow room for dual speakers, or allow for less bezels (to a reasonable degree). Or possibly all the above!
These are worthwhile tradeoffs for the few inconveniences, in my opinion, of having the scanner on the back. Yes it's harder to use when on the table but think about what you gain up front, where you use, interact, and stare at the device 90% of the time. (It would be awesome to see HTC make dual speakers again.)
And then dynamic on screen buttons take care of navigation.
I could be a believer. HTC Nexus. Bring it.
It's simply a better use of space.
If the fingerprint scanner can work so effectively on the back, then it's just better there so that the front can be left either sleek and clean, or allow room for dual speakers, or allow for less bezels (to a reasonable degree). Or possibly all the above!
These are worthwhile tradeoffs for the few inconveniences, in my opinion, of having the scanner on the back. Yes it's harder to use when on the table but think about what you gain up front, where you use, interact, and stare at the device 90% of the time. (It would be awesome to see HTC make dual speakers again.)
And then dynamic on screen buttons take care of navigation.
I could be a believer. HTC Nexus. Bring it.
I'm okay with giving up front side finger print scanner and things like the headphone jack if we have very minimal bezels.
If it looks like the new Moto's though,i feel like we are giving up features for nothing. Going thinner is not a feature for me
If it looks like the new Moto's though,i feel like we are giving up features for nothing. Going thinner is not a feature for me
See, I disagree, at least based on how it's implemented on the Nexus 6P. It may be a better use of space but it's a compromise in functionality. I don't look at my device or pick it up everytime thinking, 'man, i wish this bottom bezel was a couple mm shorter' but it's immediately noticeable what a P.I.T.A it is to always have to squeeze the size power/wake button to wake the device when it's on a table or in a dock, AND THEN have to also swipe to dismiss the lock screen, even though I have Smart Lock enabled. It's also immediately noticeable when I have to physically pick up the device or remove it from a dock everytime I use the fingerprint scanner with an app such as 1Password (which i do a lot
). These are actions I do probably a couple dozen times a day and the fingerprint scanner's location genuinely makes using the phone noticeably less enjoyable.The Samsung phones are able to have both small bezels and a front placed scanner---I'll take that arrangement every time, well, until the fingerprint scanning is integrated right into the display itself.
I disagree as I use my phone a lot when it is backdown on a surface and type and navigate that way. I am required to have my phones locked for work so I use the finger print scanners versus codes and patterns.
It would seem like a more of a pain to have it on the back in these situations and then resort to the code but first world problems, I know.
I disagree as I use my phone a lot when it is backdown on a surface and type and navigate that way. I am required to have my phones locked for work so I use the finger print scanners versus codes and patterns.
It would seem like a more of a pain to have it on the back in these situations and then resort to the code but first world problems, I know.
Yeah, I can fully understand this.
My concern is whether Nexus devices listen to "OK Google" while it's asleep. I know Moto phones do that. Do Nexus phones?
Because I do worry about a finger scanner on the back for instances you've mentioned, and specifically for when docked on a mount in my car. It would render the back scanner unusable while driving.
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See, I disagree, at least based on how it's implemented on the Nexus 6P. It may be a better use of space but it's a compromise in functionality. I don't look at my device or pick it up everytime thinking, 'man, i wish this bottom bezel was a couple mm shorter' but it's immediately noticeable what a P.I.T.A it is to always have to squeeze the size power/wake button to wake the device when it's on a table or in a dock, AND THEN have to also swipe to dismiss the lock screen, even though I have Smart Lock enabled. It's also immediately noticeable when I have to physically pick up the device or remove it from a dock everytime I use the fingerprint scanner with an app such as 1Password (which i do a lot
The Samsung phones are able to have both small bezels and a front placed scanner---I'll take that arrangement every time, well, until the fingerprint scanning is integrated right into the display itself.
I feel you. I'm not entirely convinced and would need first hand experience to know for sure. In principle, I'm coming around to it, but in practice, I could be wrong for the reasons you mention.
I have 'OK Google' always listening but I also have Smart Lock enabled and as a result there are very few instances where I need to use the fingerprint scanner to unlock the phone (trusted location at home, trusted devices in my Android Wear and Bluetooth connection to my car), so OK Google sees the phone as unlocked.
I could cope with a rear placed fingerprint scanner more easily if the device had tap to wake AND didn't require you to swipe away the lock screen. It wouldn't resolve my issue with having to use the scanner for app authentication (a tie in here to Smart Lock would be great---i.e. Don't need to use fingerprint for 1Password if Smart Lock parameters for unlocking are met) but it would improve the experience measurably.
I disagree as I use my phone a lot when it is backdown on a surface and type and navigate that way. I am required to have my phones locked for work so I use the finger print scanners versus codes and patterns.
It would seem like a more of a pain to have it on the back in these situations and then resort to the code but first world problems, I know.
I have the same IT policies, but Smart Lock still works. Pair it with a BT device like a fitbit. Done.
Good point by @tbayrgs about the swipe still being annoying though.
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Agreed. It would behoove Google to incorporate some form of wake feature that leads to a usable phone sans the fingerprint scanner for instances where the back scanner is inconvenient.
I wonder... can Nexus devices implement two unlock methods? Cause it'd be interesting if facial recognition (or iris scanner) got good enough to use for unlocking when you can't access the back fingerprint scanner. Both should be usable at the same time depending on the situation. That'd help, too, I think.
Or wake/unlock with voice recognition?
Perhaps one day...
There is wake/unlock with trusted voice. And Nexus can use any or all of the following.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6093922?hl=en
We have the policies on all of our work phones that disable paring to BT devices to use as a trusted device. That would bypass securing the device and compromise security.I disagree as I use my phone a lot when it is backdown on a surface and type and navigate that way. I am required to have my phones locked for work so I use the finger print scanners versus codes and patterns.
It would seem like a more of a pain to have it on the back in these situations and then resort to the code but first world problems, I know.
Same here as it has to be touch functionality such as a fingerprint scanner, lock code, or pattern.
The price I pay to have work email on my phone which I wish I didn't but then again 75% of my work is done via the phone sometimes at home so it has to happen.
Cool.... I used to hate my policies but I guess they are not that bad then! Still wish I could root my work phone though
Carriers won't care in the least. The only thing that may motivate them is the security updates investigation that's going on, and even then that probably won't. They'll just pay a relatively small fine and continue on their merry way.
Shockingly Verizon released an update with the June security patches for their s7/edge.
Before T-Mobile!
But I agree with your post.
Not sure of the 821, sure it wasn't the 823? That's what's rumored on the next Note.
For me the spen is the deciding factor, and stuff like water resistance and sd card being bonuses. Of course everything being equal, I would chose the nexus.
Yep, the post I read on Reddit quoted an article saying 821. Doubt it will be equal. 4GB of RAM vs 6GB of RAM? Huge difference. QHD vs UHD possibility? Big time difference. HTC doesn't use AMOLED tech from my knowledge. In addition, Samsung will include a retina scanner to unlock the Note 7.