Nexus-N/Pixel XL ( 2016 )

[Fernandez21]

Yep, the post I read on Reddit quoted an article saying 821. Doubt it will be equal. 4GB of RAM vs 6GB of RAM? Huge difference. QHD vs UHD possibility? Big time difference. HTC doesn't use AMOLED tech from my knowledge. In addition, Samsung will include a retina scanner to unlock the Note 7.

Yeah, I mean if specs and features were the same, I would get the nexus because of updates and I like stock android better, plus with the same specs stock is more optimized meaning better performance.

But more likely the Note will have more ram, better camera, better processor, faster storage, sd card, larger battery, better screen, Samsung pay, spen, better design, gear VR, and water resistance. For those extras, I'm willing to deal with touchwiz (which isn't really that bad anymore) and delayed updates (which is still the biggest problem).

 

[jamezr]

Google releases end of life for some devices. Some nexus devices will no longer get updates.

"Google Publishes End-of-Life Dates for its Nexus Devices - One of the major reasons why Android enthusiasts opt to purchase a Nexus device are the guaranteed updates."

Nexus 8P will only get updates for 2 years...
lol but I guess the Nexus 6 will get updates forever? It's not on the list.

http://www.xda-developers.com/googl...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)

 

[lowendlinux]

Google releases end of life for some devices. Some nexus devices will no longer get updates.

"Google Publishes End-of-Life Dates for its Nexus Devices - One of the major reasons why Android enthusiasts opt to purchase a Nexus device are the guaranteed updates."

Nexus 8P will only get updates for 2 years...
lol but I guess the Nexus 6 will get updates forever? It's not on the list.

http://www.xda-developers.com/google-publishes-end-of-life-for-nexus-devices/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)

I guess that ends the speculation that the 5 would get N..

I'd also imagine the 6 will be cut off with the 6P and 5x next year

 

[nj-morris]

Google releases end of life for some devices. Some nexus devices will no longer get updates.

"Google Publishes End-of-Life Dates for its Nexus Devices - One of the major reasons why Android enthusiasts opt to purchase a Nexus device are the guaranteed updates."

Nexus 8P will only get updates for 2 years...
lol but I guess the Nexus 6 will get updates forever? It's not on the list.

http://www.xda-developers.com/google-publishes-end-of-life-for-nexus-devices/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)

And yet there's the iPad 2 from early 2011, which is still getting updated into 2017.

Sorry, I don't mean to turn this into a flamewar, I just think it's very impressive.

 

[lowendlinux]

According to Android Authority they've updated it and added the 6 in and it EOL's this fall

 

[Surf Donkey]

And yet there's the iPad 2 from early 2011, which is still getting updated into 2017.

Sorry, I don't mean to turn this into a flamewar, I just think it's very impressive.

There is no flameware, Apple is impressive and the top dog here by far. If you want to keep a device for over three years, Apple in fact seems to be your ONLY choice to get updates.

2 years of OS updates (if you buy launch day), 3 years of security updates is basically what Google is saying if they stick to their "guaranteed for" dates in their document. For hardware as capable as being delivered today, this is just downright disappointing. This is stock Android, they don't have very many phones, they should be able to support these devices longer. This is nothing but planned obsolescence.

Honestly, this just took away one of the biggest benefits Google had from the rest of the OEMs. Glad I stuck with my HTC 10 now honestly. If the next Nexus is not that big of a difference in hardware, I will just stay with it. No real benefit to Nexus now. OEMs are getting more bare bones (well except Samsung), updates are supported for about as long.

 

[epicrayban]

Nexus devices are also considerably more affordable than iphone devices.

Apple reigns supreme when it comes to longest updates, but that doesn't always mean getting the latest features.

2 year support (two Android versions) isn't bad. And Google's 3 year security update coverage is at least good. Plus their core apps get updated independently through the play store year round.

I wish Google would support 3 software updates, but what they're offering isn't bad when you consider the whole picture (value, play store updates, etc). In the Android space, it's down right great.

 

[jamezr]

And yet there's the iPad 2 from early 2011, which is still getting updated into 2017.

Sorry, I don't mean to turn this into a flamewar, I just think it's very impressive.

Completely agree. No flame war here either..... But everyone always said Nexus for lifetime updates but now it looks like just 2 years of updates. But Google will still have the fastest Android updates but just two years worth.
I think it is a mistake to only update Nexus phones for two years.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Nexus devices are also considerably more affordable than iphone devices.

Apple reigns supreme when it comes to longest updates, but that doesn't always mean getting the latest features.

2 year support (two Android versions) isn't bad. And Google's 3 year security update coverage is at least good. Plus their core apps get updated independently through the play store year round.

I wish Google would support 3 software updates, but what they're offering isn't bad when you consider the whole picture (price, play store updates, etc).

Yes, you definitely pay for the extended support with Apple. And good point that the updates for older devices are missing features. But again, this is massively disappointing as likely the 6P and 5X won't see anything past N (which many of us already have). Of course the developer community will likely keep the builds going, and that is the major benefit of Nexus (and the other OEMs that actually offer unlocked phones). But it should be standard from Google for 3 updates imho.

 

[lowendlinux]

It says no guaranteed updates so we'll see if that mean no updates

 

[epicrayban]

Yes, you definitely pay for the extended support with Apple. And good point that the updates for older devices are missing features. But again, this is massively disappointing as likely the 6P and 5X won't see anything past N (which many of us already have). Of course the developer community will likely keep the builds going, and that is the major benefit of Nexus (and the other OEMs that actually offer unlocked phones). But it should be standard from Google for 3 updates imho.

Wait, why won't 6p or 5x get Android O? They get two updates, no? One to N and one to O. Those phones came out last year. Or am I doing the math wrong?

 

[Surf Donkey]

Wait, why won't 6p or 5x get Android O? They get two updates, no? One to N and one to O. Those phones came out last year. Or am I doing the math wrong?

It says September 2017 specifically. New releases typically come out Oct - Nov. So O will be past the date.

As stated above, we'll see what Google actually does. But this can get them off the hook.

 

[jamezr]

The best thing about Nexus phones though is the dev support. I picked up a 64 GB 6P pretty cheap over the weekend.
Got unlocked boot loader custom recovery.......running CM13 and a saved backup of the latest N release.

The dev support for this phone won't stop after two years. But it will only be available through custom roms.

 

[epicrayban]

It says September 2017 specifically. New releases typically come out Oct - Nov. So O will be past the date.

As stated above, we'll see what Google actually does. But this can get them off the hook.

Yeah, that is a weird date. Wasn't the 6P/5X released in November-ish? Weird that it's not a full two year coverage. Don't know. I guess we'll see.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Yeah, that is a weird date. Wasn't the 6P/5X released in November-ish? Weird that it's not a full two year coverage. Don't know. I guess we'll see.

Yup, it was announced Sept 29th, but didn't actually get to customers until mid-late Oct. So I guess they are going on announce/purchase date.

 

[epicrayban]

Yup, it was announced Sept 29th, but didn't actually get to customers until mid-late Oct. So I guess they are going on announce/purchase date.

Bizarre.

If Nexus devices get only one update, that is unforgivable. Two updates is fine. Three would have been ideal.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Bizarre.

If Nexus devices get only one update, that is unforgivable. Two updates is fine. Three would have been ideal.

I'd be fine with 3 version lifecycles (since you get one right at the start). So MM, N and O. This has been the historical support.

 

[epicrayban]

I'd be fine with 3 version lifecycles (since you get one right at the start). So MM, N and O. This has been the historical support.

Yep, essentially two full OS updates. Sounds fine to me. Only one OS update = not fine. But really, that doesn't make sense to me. I foresee 6P/5X getting up to Android O.

Launched with M, will get N, and will get O. Plus another year of security updates after that.

If that's what Google intends, that's fine with me. Especially, again, if you factor in the greater picture (value, Play store updates, etc.).

 

[Tig Bitties]

It says September 2017 specifically. New releases typically come out Oct - Nov. So O will be past the date.

As stated above, we'll see what Google actually does. But this can get them off the hook.

Lately Nexus release have been September, they're moving earlier away from the old Oct / Nov release. Rumors are that the new Nexus launch will coincide near the Apple iPhone announcement, either a couple weeks before or a couple weeks after.

So saying that, the 2017 Android OS will be "O" in September 2017, I would think that means the 6P / 5X get that final "O" release, and that's it ?

 

[epicrayban]

Lately Nexus release have been September, they're moving earlier away from the old Oct / Nov release. Rumors are that the new Nexus launch will coincide near the Apple iPhone announcement, either a couple weeks before or a couple weeks after.

So saying that, the 2017 Android OS will be "O" in September 2017, I would think that means the 6P / 5X get that final "O" release, and that's it ?

Seems like it. If that's really the outcome, that means a Nexus device will be first of its kind to ship with the latest Android OS. Then get 2 full OS updates. And 3 years of monthly security patch updates.

That's acceptable, IMO.

 

[Surf Donkey]

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...ller-of-two-upcoming-htc-built-nexus-devices/

Sounds like Sailfish might follow the 5X as the smaller "lower" powered one, but still looks like a great device for those wanting smaller form factor.

• Manufactured by HTC
• 5" 1080p display (~440PPI)
• Quad-core 2.0GHz 64-bit processor (model unknown)
• 4GB RAM
• 2770mAh battery
• 32GB storage (unknown if multiple models will be available, or even if this is the base storage level)
• 12MP rear camera, 8MP front
• Rear-mounted fingerprint scanner
• USB-C port (bottom)
• Bottom-firing speaker or speakers (unknown if dual)
• Top-mounted headphone jack
• Bluetooth 4.2

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

And yet there's the iPad 2 from early 2011, which is still getting updated into 2017.

Sorry, I don't mean to turn this into a flamewar, I just think it's very impressive.

I have an iPad 2 updated. But is lacking a ton of features. It's like a bare bones iOS9.

Meanwhile my Nexus 7 2013 will probably still take advantage of new Android features even when updates are no longer supported.

 

[Fernandez21]

I have an iPad 2 updated. But is lacking a ton of features. It's like a bare bones iOS9.

Meanwhile my Nexus 7 2013 will probably still take advantage of new Android features even when updates are no longer supported.

To be fair, the iPad 2 came out in early 2011, it was the last product Steve Jobs unveiled (in his last presentation he showed off iCloud).

Well see where the nexus 7 is in 2.5years, but I'll be shocked if it's still officially supported.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

To be fair, the iPad 2 came out in early 2011, it was the last product Steve Jobs unveiled (in his last presentation he showed off iCloud).

Well see where the nexus 7 is in 2.5years, but I'll be shocked if it's still officially supported.

I think N will be it's last officially supported update.

But my point was, many of Google's/Android's services and app updates will be available for the Nexus 7 and other older devices for years to come, even without supported OS updates.

For example: It's reported Allo, Duo, Instant Apps, and etc, will work as far back as JellyBean.

 

[nj-morris]

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...ller-of-two-upcoming-htc-built-nexus-devices/

Sounds like Sailfish might follow the 5X as the smaller "lower" powered one, but still looks like a great device for those wanting smaller form factor.

• Manufactured by HTC
• 5" 1080p display (~440PPI)
• Quad-core 2.0GHz 64-bit processor (model unknown)
• 4GB RAM
• 2770mAh battery
• 32GB storage (unknown if multiple models will be available, or even if this is the base storage level)
• 12MP rear camera, 8MP front
• Rear-mounted fingerprint scanner
• USB-C port (bottom)
• Bottom-firing speaker or speakers (unknown if dual)
• Top-mounted headphone jack
• Bluetooth 4.2

Doesn't sound like any improvement over the 5X in my opinion. Although build will probably be improved.