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I'm interested in the smaller Sailfish model over Marlin. I think "5 is my sweet spot. Foldable displays will change the industry for phablets that anything over "5.5 may become footnotes in history. After reading Note7 will only have a dual edged model and thinking Samsung wants to milk this cosmetic gimmick, the focus is back on Nexus.

I keep reading about future battery technology on PocketLint and keep thinking to myself whatever phone we own now or planning to buy look ancient if the perfect battery starts to exist. Imagine a battery that never degrades until after 200,000 times or fully charges in seconds or minutes? We can truly use those phones until we die. The ones we own now or plan to buy look more disposal.

HTC is great at design, build quality, and audio. Terrible at QC and aftersale services. Beware. I was checking out second hand M7 just because I miss that design. Nearly all of them had the purple or pink tinted rear camera. I remember mine also got slower and had weird audio glitches. Don't be fooled by the looks similar to people being duped by Steph Curry's one-trick long range shooting vs someone far better all-around like LeBron. Substance over style is more practical in the long run.

Still, if HTC can marry their HTC 10 capabilities into many Google ideas, the Nexi look be the ones to get for Android. Just avoid Samsung skins like the plague. Might seem great now. Lag city after awhile. I used to think S7 edge is the best smartphone out there. I now think the HTC 10 is more suited for me as a flagship or the Xperia X Performance without being fingerprint magnets and having dual edged gimmicks of the S7e.

So many pretty Chinese or Taiwanese phones out there for a fraction of a cost. Which is why the Nexus has got me interested thanks to Android N bringing back Project Svelte. Not that the S7e isn't a great phone. It is. But after all the smoke and mirrors with Samsung blinding people with design and cosmetic gimmicks like Apple has done for years, you start realizing what you truly find practical.
 
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HTC Nexus specs leak. If real, might be a pass. Or hopefully there's a better Nexus from huawei or HTC's other rumored Nexus device. But does that mean only the phablet size phone will get the higher specs? Major let down if this is true.

Next Nexus: made by HTC
• Display: 5-inch 1080p (440PPI)
• Processor: Quad-core 2.0GHz 64-bit
• RAM: 4GB
• Battery: 2770mAh
• Internal Storage: 32GB
• Cameras: 12MP rear camera, 8MP front
• Fingerprint Scanner: Yes, rear-mounted
• Connectivity: USB-C, Bluetooth 4.2
• Speaker: "bottom-firing"
• Headphone Jack: Yes, top-mounted
 

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HTC Nexus specs leak. If real, might be a pass. Or hopefully there's a better Nexus from huawei or HTC's other rumored Nexus device. But does that mean only the phablet size phone will get the higher specs? Major let down if this is true.

Next Nexus: made by HTC
• Display: 5-inch 1080p (440PPI)
• Processor: Quad-core 2.0GHz 64-bit
• RAM: 4GB
• Battery: 2770mAh
• Internal Storage: 32GB
• Cameras: 12MP rear camera, 8MP front
• Fingerprint Scanner: Yes, rear-mounted
• Connectivity: USB-C, Bluetooth 4.2
• Speaker: "bottom-firing"
• Headphone Jack: Yes, top-mounted

What exactly is disappointing in there for you for a 5'' phone?
 

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Mainly two things. Battery size. And the 32gb internal storage (will there be larger options? Probably. Will there be expandable storage?).

Well the 5x was 16GB and 32GB, so if they start at 32GB that is an improvement even if there is no 64GB option. The battery is the same as the 5X is a smaller size. So this is also an improvement. No expandable storage, but that hasn't changed from the 5X (and will likely never come back to Nexus).

This looks like a nice upgrade to 5X, especially for those saying it was too big.
 
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Mainly two things. Battery size. And the 32gb internal storage (will there be larger options? Probably. Will there be expandable storage?).

For me also the lack of waterproofing is disappointing, especially when makers of more rugged cases typically bother with only iPhones and some Galaxy models and the only Nexus options are basically bags instead of cases.
 

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I am still looking, but I cannot find another 5'' phone with a bigger battery. So really don't get why this would be a "major let down".

And it really strange that people are expecting the Nexus line to be on par with Apple Or Samsung flagships specs and features. For sure you will be disappointed if that is the mindset. I am huge Nexus fan, I don't want that. I don't want a $800 phone. It is about having solid specs that shows off the latest software. This has always been the goal of the Nexus line.
 
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It's a fine upgrade from the 5X. But I was hoping for more of a "5P" follow up than a 5X follow up.

The S7 is a 5.1" phone and packs a 3,000 mah battery. I think HTC could do better.
 

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Well its likely not going to be a Samsung or even an HTC flagship. So just reset your expectations or move on honestly.
 

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It's a fine upgrade from the 5X. But I was hoping for more of a "5P" follow up than a 5X follow up.

The S7 is a 5.1" phone and packs a 3,000 mah battery. I think HTC could do better.
Yeah I was wondering about the battery size as well. I am curious as to why they would put the FP scanner on the back. The HTC 10 has it on the front. Maybe this is a Google requirement? The 5x and 6P both have them on the back as well.
 

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Google may be redesigning Android's home and navigation buttons (again)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...g-androids-home-and-navigation-buttons-again/

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Dislike.
 
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I think N will be it's last officially supported update.

But my point was, many of Google's/Android's services and app updates will be available for the Nexus 7 and other older devices for years to come, even without supported OS updates.

For example: It's reported Allo, Duo, Instant Apps, and etc, will work as far back as JellyBean.
Well, Allo and Duo are apps not os features. Instant apps is great that it'll work without having to update the os, it shows innovation on Googles part in trying to get these features to devices that might never see an update.

But older devices will still miss out on other features such as Doze, which is only marshmallow, or multi window which is android n. Some 3rd party apps will only work with newer versions of android. Plus the design changes in the ui.

I get your point about google services updates, and those a great. Plus most apps are decoupled from the main os, so those get updated separately through the play store. But I think I would rather get updates the way Apple does them, sure you may miss out on some features, but you get the majority of them that aren't hardware dependent, you get any design tweaks or changes to the ui, and you get full support of apps for several years that aren't hardware dependent.

Best would be a combination of both.
 

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Well, Allo and Duo are apps not os features. Instant apps is great that it'll work without having to update the os, it shows innovation on Googles part in trying to get these features to devices that might never see an update.

But older devices will still miss out on other features such as Doze, which is only marshmallow, or multi window which is android n. Some 3rd party apps will only work with newer versions of android. Plus the design changes in the ui.

I get your point about google services updates, and those a great. Plus most apps are decoupled from the main os, so those get updated separately through the play store. But I think I would rather get updates the way Apple does them, sure you may miss out on some features, but you get the majority of them that aren't hardware dependent, you get any design tweaks or changes to the ui, and you get full support of apps for several years that aren't hardware dependent.

Best would be a combination of both.


Please don't mistake me for being an ass when I state this, I understand your points, but most including myself don't care what a feature/service technically is.

For example. Look at Google Voice. It's an app, but it's much more intergrated into Android vs on iOS.

As long as Alli and Duo integrates into Android and work smoothly as expected, then in layman's terms, layered vs ingrained into the OS, makes no differ.
 
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I am still looking, but I cannot find another 5'' phone with a bigger battery. So really don't get why this would be a "major let down".

And it really strange that people are expecting the Nexus line to be on par with Apple Or Samsung flagships specs and features. For sure you will be disappointed if that is the mindset. I am huge Nexus fan, I don't want that. I don't want a $800 phone. It is about having solid specs that shows off the latest software. This has always been the goal of the Nexus line.

if only there is iphone SE equivalent battery life in a 5" nexus phone...
 

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If the Google-made phone isn't true or doesn't get released later this year, the HTC Nexus might be the only flagship I might be interested in for 2016. If it isn't Marlin, then Sailfish which probably won't be technically the Nexus flagship if the bigger is better mantra still holds true.

I might be returning to SoCal to attend the Breeders' Cup Classic in October and hope to see California Chrome vs Beholder vs Nyquist duke it out on Nov 5. Since HTC is practically non-existent where I live and Nexus smartphones are just as rare, hoping these Nexus devices get released early October. It interest me because HTC actually did a pretty good job with the 10. Maybe Nexus smartphone coming from HTC is meant to be for me. Going back to OEM pioneer that started it all for Nexus.

What will they name it?
Nexus Dream (homage to the G1)
Nexus Passion (homage to Nexus One)
Nexus One 9 (homage to N1, One series, N9)

Let's not have another Nexus 5 or 6 name. HTC names have always sounded the most melodramatic like Sega Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcaat (dream + broadcast). Can't wait to see Android Nutella or whatever they call it in a few months...
 

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Specs for Marlin.... the larger phone of the two:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...arger-of-two-upcoming-htc-built-nexus-phones/

  • Manufactured by HTC
  • Quad-core Qualcomm processor
  • 5.5" QHD (2560x1440) AMOLED display
  • USB-C port
  • 12MP rear camera, 8MP front
  • Rear-mounted fingerprint scanner
  • 4GB RAM
  • 3450mAh battery
  • Bottom-firing speakers
  • 32/128GB of storage
  • Bluetooth 4.2
[doublepost=1467311698][/doublepost]Interjecting my opinion:

- Not really much of an upgrade over the 6P, but nice with the 82x and battery I am sure
- Pretty wild the phones are getting smaller
- Bottom speakers only...... NOOOOO, WHY??

Might be sticking with my HTC 10 and 6P.... but we'll see.
 

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Specs for Marlin.... the larger phone of the two:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...arger-of-two-upcoming-htc-built-nexus-phones/


[doublepost=1467311698][/doublepost]Interjecting my opinion:

- Not really much of an upgrade over the 6P, but nice with the 82x and battery I am sure
- Pretty wild the phones are getting smaller
- Bottom speakers only...... NOOOOO, WHY??

Might be sticking with my HTC 10 and 6P.... but we'll see.

Talk about incremental upgrade...save for the bump in CPU and RAM, not much different from the 6P, including same size battery and what sound like the same cameras. I'd be happy if the line following 'bottom firing speakers' was 'front facing fingerprint scanner' but otherwise, a step backwards (unless the result is significantly smaller bezels'. Regardless, I completely lost interest once I saw rear-mounted fingerprint scanner. :(
 
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Talk about incremental upgrade...save for the bump in CPU and RAM, not much different from the 6P, including same size battery and what sound like the same cameras. I'd be happy if the line following 'bottom firing speakers' was 'front facing fingerprint scanner' but otherwise, a step backwards (unless the result is significantly smaller bezels'. Regardless, I completely lost interest once I saw rear-mounted fingerprint scanner. :(

Well I think Nexus has pretty much proven that Google wants back facing fingerprint scanner and no expandable storage. Might change, but unlikely.
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Urge to go Nexus this year lowering...

Not thrilled with either HTC leaks.

I tried to warn you the Nexus has not nor will ever be powerful or sexy :)
 
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