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Nexus-N/Pixel XL ( 2016 )
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Actually that puts it right on par with iPhone and galaxy S7 raw costs, so justifies the price tag even more actually.
Counting all other costs a base of raw materials at around $300 they arent making much. But as you said, it is all about the services.
I can certainly tell they've allocated a good chunk of margin to marketing and support (not just promotional adverts but distribution channels, in store pods/display areas, dedicated 'Pixel' staff, etc). That and software support which I expect to be extremely quick for their 'first' device.
Are iPhones worth $815?
I think it comes down to, more than anything, the overall experience. Want an iPhone? Want the Apple ecosystem? That'll be $815 (really, $650 for the base model, but you get my point).
Want the best Android experience out there? That'll be $815.
I'm getting the Pixel. It hurts knowing that I could get a OP3 for $400, but I want this year's "Nexus." Price of admission. :/
I have had mine since Monday, I have had a good play and I really like it. I used to get the newest phone yearly but found that my Motorola Nexus 6 was so good I didn't desire anything else, I tried the iPhone's and Galaxy's but the only one that would have tempted me away was the Note 7, if it could have been fixed, it is the phone I would have now.
As it is, I do not regret my decision in the slightest, the Black Pixel XL I bought is a fabulous phone, I am really pleased. I am not tech savvy but think that this is a couple of steps up from my Nexus 6. Would I have paid £719 for it? To be honest, I probably would, but due to the upgrade and contract, I paid a total of £19.99 and 3 quid extra a month (Taking into consideration £110 part ex for Nexus 6 and £50 card to spend in Dixons/Currys, I also got a phone car holder free but I won't be using it, that is probably worth a tenner).
As it is, I do not regret my decision in the slightest, the Black Pixel XL I bought is a fabulous phone, I am really pleased. I am not tech savvy but think that this is a couple of steps up from my Nexus 6. Would I have paid £719 for it? To be honest, I probably would, but due to the upgrade and contract, I paid a total of £19.99 and 3 quid extra a month (Taking into consideration £110 part ex for Nexus 6 and £50 card to spend in Dixons/Currys, I also got a phone car holder free but I won't be using it, that is probably worth a tenner).
Depends on the individual needs. If you've an S7E and value waterproofing, wireless charging, and expandable storage, it's a pretty difficult sell.
I could easily make do with a £330 OP3, £260 Mi5, a £360 SE, or a used S6 for £200 - tried them all in the past few months whilst waiting for the Note 7. However, I was always making do in some area (the camera on all but the S6 which was the battery life).
I'm taking photos of my kids daily so those are effectively priceless and I'm prepared to pay for a camera (and battery) that allows that.
Waterproofing, SD cards, and wireless charging and further down my priorities - I've gone with OS updates and Assistant, which is growing on me by the day in terms of utility, ahead of those.
Either way, both are good phone
I tend to tell people - and I mean normal people, not us - that it's OK to spend on certain things IF they bring value to your life regularly.
If all you do is browse the internet and store photos/music, then you don't NEED a top of the range MacBook. But if you create content regularly etc, then fine.
However, phones have become such an integral part of our lives. They never leave our side. The one problem with Android is that there is always something new and shiny tempting us away every few weeks. At least if you're an iPhone user, that temptation is only once a year.
On the flipside, you can get some absolute bargains with Android. I got my S7 Edge two weeks ago for £300!!
If it costs Google $235 to make it, then you have to factor in loads of other stuff too. Also, I have shares in Google so go ahead
But in all seriousness, the value is worth it if you deem it so and can justify it. That's not the company's job. It's your money.
There is a burger restaurant near me that is EXTORTIONATE yet people pack it out every night. At least with a phone, you get to keep it, use it and sell it later if necessary.
If all you do is browse the internet and store photos/music, then you don't NEED a top of the range MacBook. But if you create content regularly etc, then fine.
However, phones have become such an integral part of our lives. They never leave our side. The one problem with Android is that there is always something new and shiny tempting us away every few weeks. At least if you're an iPhone user, that temptation is only once a year.
On the flipside, you can get some absolute bargains with Android. I got my S7 Edge two weeks ago for £300!!
If it costs Google $235 to make it, then you have to factor in loads of other stuff too. Also, I have shares in Google so go ahead
But in all seriousness, the value is worth it if you deem it so and can justify it. That's not the company's job. It's your money.
There is a burger restaurant near me that is EXTORTIONATE yet people pack it out every night. At least with a phone, you get to keep it, use it and sell it later if necessary.
I get all my cases from eBay. It's the biggest rip-off. That's where manufacturers (and shops too) make a lot of money.
I said the same thing but the pundits all have it on their top ten lists for some reason
I think the Pixel is extremely overpriced. It feels like a $400 phone at best because its just a slightly better product than the OnePlus 3, Axon 7, and Honor 8. The advantage comes from software.
If the Pixel XL were priced at $650, that's a good premium pricing point. Competiting with Apple on price point isn't as consumer friendly, which is why I am glad I got the iPhone.
If I am paying that much for a phone, why not get the iPhone, right? Water resistance, dual speakers, better apps, iMessage, top notch customer service, dual speakers, best processor, etc.
The moment the Pixel XL released: outbenchmarked, lacking water resistance, pricing will drop quick, tweener if Andromeda becomes a reality.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...XL-cameras-that-cause-halos-to-appear_id87053
Google to send out update to fix issue with Pixel, Pixel XL cameras that cause halos to appear
Google to send out update to fix issue with Pixel, Pixel XL cameras that cause halos to appear
Only the s8 is nearing the radar, you really wanna wait for those others you mentioned?
Just wait it out awhile if you really want the Pixel XL, the s8 is not going to be cheap either.
My $0.02...cancel your order. The Pixel doesn't appear to be a step up from the S7 in any area expect for software preference. You enjoy what TouchWiz adds to your phone experience so I don't see you improving your smartphone experience switching to the Pixel. Stick it out another 4-5 months to see what Samsung is offering in the S8 and if it doesn't float your boat, you can always get a Pixel for a discount vs. current full retail.
All the being said, my initial impressions of the Pixel XL are quite favorable. I'm going to enjoy giving it a thorough test drive for a couple weeks.
My $0.02...cancel your order. The Pixel doesn't appear to be a step up from the S7 in any area expect for software preference. You enjoy what TouchWiz adds to your phone experience so I don't see you improving your smartphone experience switching to the Pixel. Stick it out another 4-5 months to see what Samsung is offering in the S8 and if it doesn't float your boat, you can always get a Pixel for a discount vs. current full retail.
All the being said, my initial impressions of the Pixel XL are quite favorable. I'm going to enjoy giving it a thorough test drive for a couple weeks.
Congrats guys, I'm dang jelly that I can't get one through my carrier here in Sweden... Would love to hear a bit about how you guys find the Google Assistant!
Android doesn't have the experience that mimics the iOS experience. Google is close, but shouldn't compete on price with Apple. They should undercut Apple's pricing. "Here is a similar experience at the fraction of the price" with a $400 Pixel. They could compete with a 4-4.5" device at the $250-$300 mark to beat the iPhone SE. As of now, Apple has all the flagship markets covered:
small size, regular size, phablet size. I am just saying that if I spend top dollar, it better be close to Apple's experience. I sure as hell prefer a Nexus 5X over the Pixel at a substantially lower price. I am in the middle of getting 7.1.1 on a Nexus 5X to try some of the newer "Pixel Features" like app-shortcuts.
I've barely scratched the surface with this phone (still takes so much longer and much more effort to set up a replacment Android phone vs. replacing an iPhone
) but I'm quite impressed so far. I've seen so many comments questioning why would they get the Pixel XL vs. a much cheaper Nexus 6P and I had the same concerns before it was delivered. After not even a full day I can unequivically state the Pixel XL is miles ahead of the 6P---not even in the same ballpark. Overall speed, camera performance (and speed) and the display alone blow the 6P away--no hyperbole, it's really not a fair comparison. I can already tell the battery performance will be much better as well.I'm going to try to keep a log of my impressions as I go over the next week or so and put some type of summary together at that point to share. And to be clear, it's not all rainbows and unicorns either but the high points are impressing me. More to come.
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Many people dont want the iphone or experience and prefer android, opinions and preferences and all that stuff
Why wouldn't people want a good customer service experience? Apple doesn't have a monopoly on it, but they can set examples.