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Nexus-N/Pixel XL ( 2016 )
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That's fine, but I am talking about the experience. For what the price is, the device should do more, but it does all the basics so well that the no-frill safe approach just works. I think the Nexus is the best Android experience out there, which is I why I am holding onto a Nexus 5X. I don't want anything to do with Samsung, LG, or Sony at this time.
I don't think you understand Google's claim or that video. They stated in 15 min of charge you'd gain 7 hours of usage on the phone, not that it would full charge. It had 50% after 30 min of charging, over 75% after an hour and 90 % in 1 hr 15 min...that's pretty damn good. Look at the graph at the end...faster than the Galaxy S7e, Note 7, HTC 10, LG G5 and all the large iPhones of the past 2 years.
The official claim is 'Fast charging: up to 7 hours of use from only 15 minutes of charging'. 7 hours is about 50% of estimated 13 hour WIFI and video playback usage. That's charging while the phone is idle with screen off and not in use. The video shows about 25% charged with phone in use and screen on so it's not far fetched for it to hit about 50% with phone idle and screen off.
Why not compete on price? Psychological pricing is a thing and it looks like they are positioning the Pixels in a certain space. It's a rebrand and reposition. Whether that works out of not is for them to try and consumers to accept or not.
They tried the undercutting strategy with the Nexus line and it didn't really work outside of tech geeks. A change in strategy, invest in branding, marketing at retail (clear presence) with better distribution. Promote/support the thing. Might work, might not. HTC and Samsung (Galaxy) are good contrasting examples of what happens when you do or don't brand build over time.
My key wants, in terms of getting closer to Apple, is build quality (not visual design as that's subjective and Apple have stood still this year), great camera, great battery, buttery smooth software with timely updates - OS and ongoing patches.
That's probably not too far off a typical flagship consumer although they are probably swayed more by design and appearance. I'd also add in features like iMessage which Google haven't found an answer to yet.
OS choice and freedom vs walled garden is another discussion entirely. Suffice to say, the majority of apps most people use daily are available on both platforms.
Stereo speakers, water proofing are nice extras but only new this year for Apple. Yet they lack fast charging which I personally put ahead of the other two. And what of AMOLED and QHD? VR has potential but not mass market and I don't see Apple going there for a while. Horses for courses. I do also value the headphone jack highly given how look often I listen via headphones - not interested in charging another battery every one or two days or having to look after a dongle.
Apple clearly win on customer service in terms of exchanges. Been there, done that - it's great. This will take Google time (years) and they might not get close. Adding in a dedicated tab in settings is a small step but hints they are looking to change perception and awareness.
That's fine - your choice and preference. It's cheaper being last year's budget Nexus made of plastic with pretty average specs. I've long left plastic phones behind. It's a definite price focused device with compromises.
It's a decent price for stock experience if that's your main objective. I just couldn't rely on the battery (very poor) or camera (shooting non-static subjects and wait time between shots). Modding build.prop for Assistant and hitting up apks for the dialer and Pixel launcher are only for the minority.
Having come from a 6P I do like the Pixel XL experience as a whole. Buttery smooth, great camera, great battery, great standby time, great screen, fast charging, priority updates all in a premium build. Google customer service is not Apple-level convenience but is very good otherwise.
It's the first time I've been able to make that list and find a phone that has all of them. Works for me, and I'll pay accordingly for not compromising, but won't be for everyone (front speakers, waterproofing, wireless charging, visual design, etc).
Not trying to start a Apple vs war, just feeding back after a week with the XL. I still love my iPP 12.9 - nothing on the market comes close to that.
Sorry but that is slower than my Note 7 or S7 edge. And 15 minutes does not give you 7 hours of life on that phone period.
Anybody checked out ebay to see what they're going for. I just did a search for my phone and saw multiple BIN's for $1200 
Well, actually, no they're not quicker.
And regarding the 7 hours of battery life..you own a Pixel and have tested it? Just saying it in 2 different posts doesn't make it true.
The same YouTuber is going to test this out specifically so we'll see how it does. If I get a chance, I'll try on my Pixel XL as well.
Anybody checked out ebay to see what they're going for. I just did a search for my phone and saw multiple BIN's for $1200
Pixel only launched in five countries.
Here In the U.K. They are still available to order from google website.
I used to feel my Nokia communicator felt like a brick.
Could be a combination of the chamfered edges plus the 8.6 mm depth.
What's this about?
https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/791437874084184064
Unlimited photo uploads don't count towards data?
Or something more??
https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/791437874084184064
Unlimited photo uploads don't count towards data?
Or something more??
Was announced this morning. Half the phone price in credits if you BYOD pixel to tmo
https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/pixel-offer.htm
Nice. Doesn't help me as I never will give up my current T-Mobile plan, but still cool of them to try to circumvent Verizon's exclusivity.
Interesting read re. Looks light and the Pixel approach.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/27/13425282/google-pixel-camera-auto-hdr-low-light-feature
Will have to try some more low light shots myself. Been pretty happy with the ones I've taken so far.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/27/13425282/google-pixel-camera-auto-hdr-low-light-feature
Will have to try some more low light shots myself. Been pretty happy with the ones I've taken so far.
Front facing camera comparison between iPhone and Pixel:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPho...which-of-the-two-takes-better-selfies_id87125
I think the Pixel wins this one easily.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPho...which-of-the-two-takes-better-selfies_id87125
I think the Pixel wins this one easily.
Well, actually, no they're not quicker.
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And regarding the 7 hours of battery life..you own a Pixel and have tested it? Just saying it in 2 different posts doesn't make it true.
The same YouTuber is going to test this out specifically so we'll see how it does. If I get a chance, I'll try on my Pixel XL as well.
No, but going off what android central pixel owners are saying. It is not charging near as fast as their other android phones.
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Not even close. The iPhone wins those pictures. Brighter and correct color in those pictures.
Alright, have a user interface question regarding Android on my Pixel but not gonna start a whole new thread for what should be a quick and simple issue.
I cannot for the life of me find a button/setting to quickly change audio output destination when listening to music, podcasts, etc. For example, I'm connected to my car bluetooth or a bluetooth speaker/headphones at home and I want to quickly switch audio output to the phone speaker for a minute, for vice versa. In iOS, there is always an AirPlay icon to select that shows all current available output destinations (bluetooth, phone speaker, AirPlay devices) and a separate Chromecast button if compatible. I could've sworn this was an option in the past when I used Android but I see nothing but a Chromecast button anywhere now. Nothing in Google Play Music, nothing in Pocket Casts, etc. Am I just being an idiot and imagining this and if so, what am I missing/doing wrong?
On iOS, there's a button just above the play/pause near the bottom but nothing on Android.
I cannot for the life of me find a button/setting to quickly change audio output destination when listening to music, podcasts, etc. For example, I'm connected to my car bluetooth or a bluetooth speaker/headphones at home and I want to quickly switch audio output to the phone speaker for a minute, for vice versa. In iOS, there is always an AirPlay icon to select that shows all current available output destinations (bluetooth, phone speaker, AirPlay devices) and a separate Chromecast button if compatible. I could've sworn this was an option in the past when I used Android but I see nothing but a Chromecast button anywhere now. Nothing in Google Play Music, nothing in Pocket Casts, etc. Am I just being an idiot and imagining this and if so, what am I missing/doing wrong?
On iOS, there's a button just above the play/pause near the bottom but nothing on Android.
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I'm not seeing the button in your screenshot but he chromecast button should let you switch audio output to bluetooth within play music. Having said that, I've noticed it missing from my play music recently..not sure why.
Thanks for the reply. That screen shot was from my Pixel while out of the house yet on bluetooth headphones...no Chromecast or any other audio selection button.
Here's GPM at home on wifi. Chromecast button is there however only my Chromecasts and Chromecast Audio devices show up, even though I'm on bluetooth headphones as I take these screenshots. The far last image is from my iPhone, clearly showing both the Chromecast and AirPlay buttons. Selecting the AirPlay button shows all my AirPlay devices (Apple TVs, Stereo receiver with built in AirPlay) as well as the iPhone and my currently connected bluetooth headphones. There is nothing similar to this on any of my apps on the Pixel. I want to stop playing on the bluetooth headphones, I have to manually disconnect in the bluetooth settings or turn off bluetooth altogether. I've had a few occasions where the audio is playing from the phone's speaker even though bluetooth settings show the phone is connected. I have no way of changing the audio output selection so I've had to cycle off bluetooth hoping it would reconnect. Overall, a P.I.T.A.
Not sure how this functionality can be excluded.
[doublepost=1477627210][/doublepost]On a separate note, battery performance from my first full day of use without topping off at any point throughout the day as I tend to do (i.e. when driving). Over 5 hrs SOT...not too shabby and far better than the usual 3:45 to 4 hrs I'd get on my 6P.
P.S. Taking a screen shot on this phone is a pain in the ass..have to hit the power and volume down perfectly or just changes the volume. Must've take a dozen attempts for each.
And also, how come when I go to upload these images from my phone to this post, my only choices on my Pixel XL are from 'Camera' or 'Files'--no Google Photos app? Yes, it's cliche but things like this and my above audio output issue are why you hear 'It just works' when referring to the iPhone and it's so often true.
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