Nexus X and Nexus P ( 2015 ) Smartphones

[MRU]

Dieter never mentions price to rationalize weak points. I've seen that with the 5x though.

Techno Buffalo did a video of first impressions and John never made excuses either but again, did for the 5x.

He does ... His entire conclusion in the review is based upon pricing. Pricing & comparison which has no relevance outside of USA.

The Nexus 6P effectively levels the playing field with other great phones by offering really beautiful hardware and a camera that can finally compete. And it does that while undercutting all of them on cost. The Nexus 6P starts at $499, and for that price there is not a single phone on the market that's better. Not one.

If you compare it to the other "premium" phones like the iPhone 6S, Galaxy S6, or Note 5, you're going to end up finding yourself putting a different set of things on your decision scales than before. With the Note 5: is a slightly better camera and a stylus worth $240 more, or would you rather have a clean Android experience? And the iPhone 6S: is iOS's superior app ecosystem and 3D Touch worth $150 more, or do you live in Google's ecosystem and want Google Now on Tap?"

As I say it would be interesting to read a review based on a $750 starting price (the price we have to pay) and see how it affects overall impressions and thoughts.

 

[Fanaticalism]

He does ... His entire conclusion in the review is based upon pricing. Pricing & comparison which has no relevance outside of USA.

I guess I just interpreted that differently. I read that as they are on par performance wise so now it comes down to preference or key features and if none of those apply then and only then does the cost difference between them justify the decision to choose another over the nexus.

Out of curiosity, are other devices affected as dramatically price wise once outside the u.s.?

 

[MRU]

I guess I just interpreted that differently. I read that as they are on par performance wise so now it comes down to preference or key features and if none of those apply then and only then does the cost difference between them justify the decision to choose another over the nexus.

Out of curiosity, are other devices affected as dramatically price wise once outside the u.s.?

Yes but to various extents The Moto X Style 32gb is $449 in USA and €499 here - which is substantially less than gap between the Nexus 6P at $499 to €649

Other devices like S6 Edge + similar story, increased cost compared to dollar pricing but given how quickly price drops on Samsung devices I was able to pick up a new one for less than €500 here.

 

[Fanaticalism]

Yes but to various extents The Moto X Style 32gb is $449 in USA and €499 here - which is substantially less than gap between the Nexus 6P at $499 to €649

Other devices like S6 Edge + similar story, increased cost compared to dollar pricing but given how quickly price drops on Samsung devices I was able to pick up a new one for less than €500 here.

Wow, there's quite a discrepancy there. I wonder what the hell happened.

 

[epicrayban]

So far everyone's initial impressions have been super positive. The 5x seems to be the one disappointing people but they kind of justify it due to the lower price point.

Ya, I'm quite tempted. Seems to be a waiting list for pre-orders though, so oh well.

 

[TechnicallyTee]

Very interested in the Nexus 6P after looking at these reviews. I am content with my 6S Plus but I am very interested in the running the new Nexus as my android device...hmmmmm

 

[jamezr]

Ya, I'm quite tempted. Seems to be a waiting list for pre-orders though, so oh well.

Same here. I am tempted to pick up the 6P but will wait until I a can get one through secondary channels.
I really wanted to get some hands on first before buying. But might not be able to do that.

 

[epicrayban]

Same here. I am tempted to pick up the 6P but will wait until I a can get one through secondary channels.
I really wanted to get some hands on first before buying. But might not be able to do that.

Yeah. Or at least a good deal during Black Friday or Xmas promotions.

I can wait... (I guess!).

 

[MRU]

TBH if I could buy one at $499 - I'd order it without question.

 

[epicrayban]

I'm def. going for the 64GB version if I have a choice.

Frost.

 

[nfl46]

Lol, odd at what I did. After carefully going over the pros and cons, I decided to stick with my original plan of getting the 6P. I was set on the smaller 5X, but realized that I was more impatient than anything, and just wanted the device NOW. Luckily, the Samsung Test Drive is back into play and I'll be able to use an Edge+ for a month until my 6P arrives. Now, the month long wait won't be as bad.

 

[tbayrgs]

Nice to hear such a positive review for a Nexus, finally. I realize that there is a lot of subjectivity in regards to aesthetics but quality build materials withstanding, I still think it's an ugly design--nothing pretty about that hump/strip. And why oh why is excellent battery life such a tough thing to find? With a 3400 mAh battery and the new power management functionality baked into marshmallow, I expected better than 'just getting through a day'. At least they solved one of the two chronic Nexus problems---a quality camera.

Overall though, seems like a really compelling choice.

 

[epicrayban]

Nice to hear such a positive review for a Nexus, finally. I realize that there is a lot of subjectivity in regards to aesthetics but quality build materials withstanding, I still think it's an ugly design--nothing pretty about that hump/strip. And why oh why is excellent battery life such a tough thing to find? With a 3400 mAh battery and the new power management functionality baked into marshmallow, I expected better than 'just getting through a day'. At least they solved one of the two chronic Nexus problems---a quality camera.

Overall though, seems like a really compelling choice.

Yeah, I'm disappointed by the battery reviews. It's good, but should be better.

Also, USB C is another problem. I'd have to purchase additional wires/chargers for the office and the car. And my wireless chargers would all be useless now.

That alone is enough to deter me until 2016 when more devices go only USB C, when I don't have any other choice, I guess.

All in all, it's probably a pass, but the 6P sure is tempting.

Also, the S7 is expected to be announced early 2016, so that could be interesting...

 

[jamezr]

Nice to hear such a positive review for a Nexus, finally. I realize that there is a lot of subjectivity in regards to aesthetics but quality build materials withstanding, I still think it's an ugly design--nothing pretty about that hump/strip. And why oh why is excellent battery life such a tough thing to find? With a 3400 mAh battery and the new power management functionality baked into marshmallow, I expected better than 'just getting through a day'. At least they solved one of the two chronic Nexus problems---a quality camera.

Overall though, seems like a really compelling choice.

Agreed about the battery life on STOCK Android no less. It should last almost 2 days with a 3400 mAh battery.
My Note 5 with a less than optimized TW gets me through the day and then some with a 3000 mAh battery

 

[tbayrgs]

Agreed about the battery life on STOCK Android no less. It should last almost 2 days with a 3400 mAh battery.
My Note 5 with a less than optimized TW gets me through the day and then some with a 3000 mAh battery

I think Samsung actually has an advantage in that regard, similar to Apple, in that they can optimize their software to work with their hardware, the Exynos cpu, though I'd say they are a ways from mastering that relationship.

I think battery performance continues to be such an obstacle because Android has to be designed as a 'one size fits all' OS. It needs to work with any number of off the shelve parts, and doesn't have the luxury of being able to be fine tuned for very specific hardware, as Apple can do with iOS. Regardless, I still expected better from a device with that size battery, an AMOLED display, and the better power management of MM.

 

[mclld]

The 6p and N5 seem to be the ultimate android phones to have

 

[jamezr]

Ha! You can use the new Nexus phones as a power source to charge each other.

http://liliputing.com/2015/10/you-can-charge-a-nexus-5x-from-a-nexus-6p-or-vice-versa.html

 

[epicrayban]

Ha! You can use the new Nexus phones as a power source to charge each other.

http://liliputing.com/2015/10/you-can-charge-a-nexus-5x-from-a-nexus-6p-or-vice-versa.html

How does it know which way to charge? Can you pick?

 

[jamezr]

How does it know which way to charge? Can you pick?

I don't know........but it seems the larger battery phone becomes the source?

 

[MRU]

I don't know........but it seems the larger battery phone becomes the source?

You likely have the option in USB mode selection when connected for power mode.

 

[epicrayban]

Neat.

 

[IFRIT]

You likely have the option in USB mode selection when connected for power mode.

When the cable is connected there is a notification in which you can select different options.

 

[Robisan]

TBH if I could buy one at $499 - I'd order it without question.

Ah, so the price differential does matter if it applied to you!

No disrespect to your point, which I get as far as it goes - it sucks that the price deltas don't hold worldwide. However, the price deltas are indeed relevant to those of us where they exist and IMHO it's a bit myopic to universally delegitimize consideration of them because they don't apply to you.

 

[MRU]

Ah, so the price differential does matter if it applied to you!

No disrespect to your point, which I get as far as it goes - it sucks that the price deltas don't hold worldwide. However, the price deltas are indeed relevant to those of us where they exist and IMHO it's a bit myopic to universally delegitimize consideration of them because they don't apply to you.

I completely agree.

 

[nviz22]

I would buy a 6P if the price wasn't so high, $500 for that phone is tough to swallow. It's probably easier to get than the Moto X though. Can't wait to get the 5X.