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nMP/new Mac Pro/Mac Pro 6,1 Reviews [MERGED]

What about Luxmark or any other OpenCL based GPU renderer? (Indigo?) - Would be nice to see how a D700 compares to a r9 290 or GTX 780 or titan or W9000 or even K5000. Basically, I have a feeling that these GPU's are overpriced, underclocked 7970 without even the ecc vram ram to justify the markup.

If that's the case it's going to be pretty hard recommending these for my studio until the refresh a year or so from now.
 
Cubemmal said:
For a time. My understanding is that it doesn't have the thermal budget to sustain that performance for too long. Again ...

http://www.marco.org/2013/11/26/new-mac-pro-cpus
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Its all dependent on the cooling you have.

That is why a custom PC, running overclocked, with custom watercooling can far exceed the performance of a stock Xeon. And this is using the EE chips based on the Xeons. To be honest, even without watercooling and big ass heatsinks, they can achieve impressive OCs under air. Though these towers are not made to me sexy, and can often be very load. Impressive performance though.

Though you are correct, as is the article, heat is a major issue in apples slick designs and their ability to cool the CPU underload.
 
prfrma said:
What about Luxmark or any other OpenCL based GPU renderer? (Indigo?) - Would be nice to see how a D700 compares to a r9 290 or GTX 780 or titan or W9000 or even K5000. Basically, I have a feeling that these GPU's are overpriced, underclocked 7970 without even the ecc vram ram to justify the markup.

If that's the case it's going to be pretty hard recommending these for my studio until the refresh a year or so from now.
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They're firepro's. Just like the W7000, W9000 etc are firepros.

The jury is still out on the ECC ram though, doesn't look like the cards have it, but it isn't confirmed yet.
 
MH01 said:
Its all dependent on the cooling you have.

That is why a custom PC, running over clocked, with custom water-cooling can far exceed the performance of a stock Xeon. ...
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The discussion was about Apple computers.
 
JordanNZ said:
They're firepro's. Just like the W7000, W9000 etc are firepros.

The jury is still out on the ECC ram though, doesn't look like the cards have it, but it isn't confirmed yet.
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W9000 has virtual ECC, not a lot of information disclosed. Normally it means that it is assigning part of its VRAM for ECC usage. 6GB VRAM is a lot - sounds reasonable to use some for ECC. Virtual ECC implementation cannot be tell by looking at the card.

I believe lower end W7000 don't have this feature.
 
BEIGE said:
I don't benchmark Lightwave because no one uses that thing anymore and I couldn't be bothered to try and navigate its horrendous UI.
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That took me back a little. Sure, it's a much smaller player in the 3D space than the big boys, but "no one"? I do, as do the other members of a global and rather loyal user base. Newtek is alive and kicking and improving the product at a rapid clip. Will you find any of us on the credits list of a Hollywood blockbuster? Not likely, but still.

YMMV, of course, but I loathed the IU of Maya when I had to use it in school. :)

As far as benchmarking goes, it's cool: we have our own home grown one so we can handle it ourselves.
 
yauwing said:
W9000 has virtual ECC, not a lot of information disclosed. Normally it means that it is assigning part of its VRAM for ECC usage. 6GB VRAM is a lot - sounds reasonable to use some for ECC. Virtual ECC implementation cannot be tell by looking at the card.

I believe lower end W7000 don't have this feature.
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Exactly.
Like all AMD cards.

Will find out more soon.
 
Mgmx said:
Hey all,
This my first post here but I was hoping to clarify a few things.

I can only share information based on the stock 6 core second tier system as its all I've used (and 64gb of ram), but hopefully that will give you ball park information.

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Hi, could you please run Sandra video rendering benchmark and post measured FLOPS of D500?
You can DL it from here, and here is an explanation where to look for details.
Thanks in advance.
 
"By the way, this system is QUIET!! 12 dB of total noise. 17 dB of total noise when under a load. My son, who’s ears are a WHOLE lot better than mine, could not hear the Mac Pro because the ambient noise in a very quiet office was louder than the computer. The cooling fan is efficient and quiet. And the amount of air coming out the cooling stack at the top is not enough to rustle loose sheets of paper — I checked."

From Larry Jordan. That's amazing.
 
superscientific said:
Here is my First Impressions Review with Benchmarks of the 6 Core Base Model with the D500's. Let me know what you think.

http://youtu.be/pqgKBnPViS0
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hey danny.. good general review for sure.. thanks for doing it #

personally, i'm not really much of a fan of the various benchmarking apps but i always like seeing those 'open all apps at once' things :)

i'm curious if you have an 802.11ac router which you could demonstrate file transfer rates in a similar way you showed the 4k file movement?
thanks

[edit]-- hmm.. i guess you would need a laptop or other computer with the ac wifi as well.. mainly interested in seeing AirDrop etc between two computers or transfers to airport hard drives
 
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Has anyone performed any direct GPU comparisons with the 780M in the latest iMac? I'm really curious to the 3d/gaming performance of the 780M vs the D300 & D500 under both OS X and Windows.

I know these may not be meant specifically for gaming but I'm curious to see what their actual performance is. I wouldn't mind shelling out a bit more for a nMP as I can't stand the glossy screens of the iMac and I'd also rather not shell our near $3k for an iMac with no TB2. Other than that, it would be a great machine.

I dug through this entire thread and didn't see anything specifically so figured I'd ask in case I missed it somewhere. Thanks!
 
Bazu said:
There surely is some difference between OGL and DX11 but not 100%

Unigine Heaven 2560x1440
D700 - 14,4
W9000 - 37,6
W7000 - 14,9
7970 - 28

I would say that difference between 14,4 and 14,9 could be OGL - DX11
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There's a 20% difference between DirectX and OpenGL on Windows side. And when you switch to OS X, heaven is using OGL 3.0, but on Windows it's at 4.2. Wait until Heaven is rewritten to take advantage of 4.1 on OS X and then you can have a meaningful comparison. Until then, the only real benchmark will be bootcamping and running Heaven on Windows. And at that point, it'll run on Crossfire, but there probably is a way to disable that to see single GPU performance.
 
Quad is right where it is supposed to be!

Very close to the top end imac - cost only slightly higher - much higher TDP, much better heat sinking, 6 TB ports, ECC Ram, and huge GPU gains etc... etc... quieter under all heavy constant loads.

THe Hex is where the nMP makes a big leap beyond the imac. As was true in the oMP as well. There is no "better" Intel quad CPU they could have used :).
 
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Sharky II said:
that quad seems pretty disappointing - even with a faster clock speed it's still slower than the iMac... boring!
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That was expected from GreekBench results shown earlier.

Please look at OpenCL test, LuxMark 2.1, the last benchmark result on the same page. Dual D300 is about 5 times of 780M in iMac 2013!
 
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