Other No 3D Touch? Totally unacceptable!!

[blaine07]

I guess through all this I fail to comprehend how haptic touch functions any different than 3D Touch did

 

[maplingstorie]

I'll only miss the 3D Touch part where you can quickly select and highlight super quick. The rest I can miss.

 

[Mabus51]

Removing 3D Touch seems like a horrible mistake. This is a pro-level feature that many of us have come to rely on every day.

I use 3D Touch many times per day in ways that I don't think can be replaced by haptic features.

For example in ProCreate, 3D Touch allows you to have pressure sensitivity while drawing or painting.

3D Touch is also very useful when editing text, since you can 3D Touch anywhere on the iOS virtual keyboard to transform it into a trackpad, letting you move the insertion point to exactly where you want it, and also letting you select text. I use this all the time.

The replacement is to "hold the spacebar" to activate that same mode—however, this causes your finger to start off at the bottom of the screen, meaning that you cannot drag very far downwards to select text.

Consider also that this gesture is often the ONLY way to scroll a text field on a website, due to all the broken HTML5 implementations that intercept your swipe gestures, and you quickly realize the scale and scope of a mistake it is to remove 3D Touch.

As well, there's an app I created that uses 3D Touch to people with certain types of hand injuries and deformities to perform actions that would normally require them to push an on-screen button (something they can't do while also holding the device). Now if someone buys a new device, it's not going to work. That's really crappy of Apple, IMHO.

Finally, for the cost of an iPhone Pro, users do not expect to lose features like this. It seems like Apple is just removing features to make more profit margin, after getting us hooked on a superior platform. This is the opposite of innovation.

After hearing of this, I googled it and saw many articles that said 3D Touch was only used for pop-up menus on app icons, and that many users didn't even know about it. Well obviously that's false—many apps like iMovie and Garage Band had 3D Touch support for editing things, it was brilliant. Not to mention it was amazing to finally get touch-sensitivity for art programs. Considering how many of us are artists and musicians that use these apps a lot, it seems like a really lame sacrifice.

To me, the solution would have been to enhance the UI further, to give better indications of when something is able to be "3D-touched". They should also add something useful to contextual menus, such as the suggestion I made to Apple several times that they keep ignoring, which is to let you send an app to a folder from that pop-up menu, instead of forcing you to drag it all the way across 10 pages of apps and folders that get all screwed up if you drop something in the wrong place.

So what did we get in exchange for losing 3D touch? A THIRD camera? Did we really need a third camera, really guys?

iPads never had 3D Touch. ProCreate uses the pencil’s sensitivity for pressure touch. Pop-up menus are still there, only difference is they act like last years Xr which didn’t have 3D Touch either.

 

[lokerd]

I don't even understand why it has to be one or the other. If space is an issue, make the phone a tiny bit bigger. But to get rid of the 3d touch is really frustrating.

I bought the 11Pro for the cameras...but didn't realize the loss of the 3D touch. That affects editing nearly every single message, repeatedly during the course of a day.

The challenge for me is placing the cursor in the exact spot to bring up the floating cursor. A larger percentage of time I am selecting a word, or multiple words. Select All is a PITA! At this point, hopefully a software solution can be produced.I always copy and paste text before sending. But I also FREQUENTLY compose in a note, then copy to a message (lots of formal texts) as well as sending many text messages to people where only a name and his to her changes throughout a long message. This challenge is so pervasive, I am carrying my 8 ALSO to frequently send messages and edit notes etc. I am getting a little better at touching at the exact correct spot, and then clicking again to try to bring up the floating cursor, but still it is not 100% and is VERY disappointing.

Apple...please help fix this!!

EDIT: I did just read the in the reply above about LONG PRESS SPACEBAR. That does help...so thank you MR! But still...gee wiz!

 

[OTACORB]

3D Touch while there are those that used it clearly the bulk of us did not. I know I used it like a few times and then would always forget about it. So not something I miss at all.

 

[Arcontia]

Meh, I don’t miss it really. I only used it for peeking at websites and texts And moving the text cursor - you can still do that with haptic Touch so yeah

 

[!!!]

Glad they killed it..
Complete the job and nuke the stupid TouchBar also please.

Trust me, they won't ever get rid of that garbage. Useful features like 3D Touch? Gone! Touch Bar that serves no purpose but to slow you down? Forever.
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If they're gonna kill it off I wish they'd actually go through with it. Now I constantly accidentally start activating the long-press crap. I just want to click a stupid link but it takes a second longer of it trying to figure out what I'm trying to do. Or when I just want to rearrange some apps and it takes 10 seconds longer because of the stupid menu.

I've NEVER had an issue with 3D Touch accidentally activating, yet I get problems every time I try to do anything and it starts doing long-press stuff.

 

[pika2000]

When the trade off is much better battery life, I’m all in.
I have the 6s, and 3D Touch is pointless when the phone cannot even last for half a day.

 

[janeauburn]

Apple should discard every “feature” since the iPhone 6 that added bulk and weight to the phone. The phones are too damn heavy. I wouldn’t consider an 11 because it’s too fat, too heavy.
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Oh, and the iPhone 6 was the last model with good call quality. How about actually improving the phone?

 

[Elitegate]

I wouldn't say the third camera is almost useless. I would rather have a 2x optical zoom telephoto lens than an ultra wide lens... Apple should give us 3x or 5x optical zoom by now with the Pro models.

 

[juswest]

Apple should discard every “feature” since the iPhone 6 that added bulk and weight to the phone. The phones are too damn heavy. I wouldn’t consider an 11 because it’s too fat, too heavy.
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Oh, and the iPhone 6 was the last model with good call quality. How about actually improving the phone?

I hope they don't return to the paper thin phones.

 

[now i see it]

I turn 3D Touch off

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I use 3D Touch everytime I use my iPhone. Is the software version not as good then? That’s worrying.

 

[C DM]

When the trade off is much better battery life, I’m all in.
I have the 6s, and 3D Touch is pointless when the phone cannot even last for half a day.

That trade-off has been the assumption that some have expressed, but it seems like it's still an assumption and doesn't necessarily mean that it is or had to be one or the other.

 

[pika2000]

That trade-off has been the assumption that some have expressed, but it seems like it's still an assumption and doesn't necessarily mean that it is or had to be one or the other.

Considering the iPhone 6s has less battery size than the iPhone 6 which doesn't have 3D touch, and how the 11 pro/max got a huge jump in battery life compared to the Xs/Max, I'd say that "assumption" is really close.

And Apple has decided to go without 3D touch. Lamenting about it won't brint it back. At least we get some of the best battery life an iPhone ever had. And for me, looking at my dead-by-afternoon 6s, the 3D touch loss becomes less of an issue.

 

[nrvna76]

I’ll take the never ending battery. Which was the real trade off, not the third camera.

 

[C DM]

Considering the iPhone 6s has less battery size than the iPhone 6 which doesn't have 3D touch, and how the 11 pro/max got a huge jump in battery life compared to the Xs/Max, I'd say that "assumption" is really close.

Well, as I recall there was the whole part about "Taptic Engine" that was also introduced with iPhone 6s, and while 3D Touch made use of it, it's my understanding that it wasn't there just for it and is still there on today's devices even without 3D Touch--meaning that there were other things there, unrelated to 3D Touch, that have been and still are in play. So it's still not all that clear that 3D Touch on its own really had as much of an impact in terms of freeing up a meaningful amount of space for the battery to be that much larger and longer lasting.

 

[revmacian]

I used 3D Touch a few times, never did like it. Sayonara!

 

[saberahul]

Ha! Poll is rather one sided. Where is the option for those who are buying/bought pro model and enjoy no 3D Touch? You may not like it, but doesn’t mean everyone doesn’t.

For me, it’s much better than the pressure sensitive nonsense. It’s quicker and gets everything I need done. On a personal aside, I use the pop ups so much more now than I did on my X.

 

[Timothy Leo Crowley]

Useless poll, doesn't do anything to bolster your opinion. I haven't missed 3D Touch for even a second. Next.

 

[Timothy Leo Crowley]

There are people who don’t care about iPhone’s ability to place or receive calls as they don’t like calls and just use messaging or email or whatnot. Doesn’t seem like that would really make much of a reason for Apple to remove the phone aspect from iPhones.

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By your "logic" everyone that care so much about this being removed, are also still crying about the tragic loss of the dial telephone. hint: not everyone cares about the same things you do.

 

[44267547]

Useless poll, doesn't do anything I haven't missed 3D Touch for even a second. Next.

Ok? So if it’s a ‘useless’ poll, why are you participating? Also, One could make a counter argument that others appreciate 3D Touch for everything it had to offer and actually knew how to utilize its capabilities. The argument goes both ways, you haven’t missed 3D Touch, others do appreciate it. This isn’t a one sided discussion.

 

[Sam in SoCal]

I have no problem with 3D Touch being removed moving forward. One little issue I have though is that when they did a teardown of the iPhone 11 pros it looks like they shrunk the Taptic Engine. There’s a thread on this site where people don’t get a strong vibration on phone calls with the mute switch on. Anyone else experience this?

 

[Timothy Leo Crowley]

Ok? So if it’s a ‘useless’ poll, why are you participating? Also, One could make a counter argument that others appreciate 3D Touch for everything it had to offer and actually knew how to utilize its capabilities. The argument goes both ways, you haven’t missed 3D Touch, others do appreciate it. This isn’t a one sided discussion.

I did not participate in the useless poll. 3D touch is gone. If it keeps you up at night, you really have more serious problems to deal with.

 

[44267547]

I did not participate in the useless poll. 3D touch is gone.

Yeah, pretty sure that’s been established 3D Touch is ‘gone.’ We get it, you didn’t like 3D Touch, others obviously do. There’s no need to be overly defensive in your manner. Oh, The poll is indicative of the thread, if you think the poll is ‘useless’, then why are you participating in this thread? (Rhetorical)