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[Nokia N900] The next real iphone killer!

I'm not sure why an iPhone killer would be preferred, the iPhone isn't the most popular smartphone worldwide, or even in north america. That would be BlackBerry in NA, followed by Nokia smartphones worldwide.

It's hard to be finding a "killer" for something that isn't at the top.
 
My favourite N900 screenshot so far. :D Admittedly requires some *NIX geekiness to get the humour.

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18.2mm thick?? I have the model before this, the N810 (which isn't a phone either, by the way), and it's "only" 14mm thick, and it's a bit thick to comfortably to carry in a pocket. This new model is even thicker? At 18.2mm, that's almost 3/4 of an inch. Way too thick to be considered for a "phone", even though Nokia themselves lists this as a tablet, or MID. This is more of a competitor to the iPod touch as a mobile internet device, not so much the iPhone. And it's price will be far out of line with what most consumers want to pay for a device this size, which is why the N810 (a great device for its time) didn't do well at all. Not to mention Nokia's total lack of advertising in North America for any of their products that are actually worth a darn.
 
Who cares - only a small minority of phone consumers know or are even remotely interested in this Finding Maemo nonsense whatever it is. We want a phone that looks as cool as the iPhone and is as fun and easy to use as the iPhone while providing the treasure trove of mindless amusement and the instantaneous microcosm of consumerism that is the App Store. On top of that it has to be called iPhone.

















basically we only want an iPhone.
 
niuniu said:
Who cares - only a small minority of phone consumers know or are even remotely interested in this Finding Maemo nonsense whatever it is. We want a phone that looks as cool as the iPhone and is as fun and easy to use as the iPhone while providing the treasure trove of mindless amusement and the instantaneous microcosm of consumerism that is the App Store. On top of that it has to be called iPhone.
basically we only want an iPhone.
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Did you watch the N900 commercial? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au_uRmoy8Fs

I have always disliked all other phones except for the iPhone. I have an iPhone myself. But after seeing this commercial, I'm now thinking "don't knock it until you've tried it." Let's see what it looks like when we've had a chance to demo it. Then iPhone will have the opportunity to put it to shame. We don't have a working demo for a comparison yet. :apple:
 
iphones4evry1 said:
Did you watch the N900 commercial? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au_uRmoy8Fs

I have always disliked all other phones except for the iPhone. I have an iPhone myself. But after seeing this commercial, I'm now thinking "don't knock it until you've tried it." Let's see what it looks like when we've had a chance to demo it. Then iPhone will have the opportunity to put it to shame. We don't have a working demo for a comparison yet. :apple:
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Ok fine, watched the stupid video. Yes it does look impressive.
 
Does this thing even have multitouch? I can't imagine why anyone would develop touch screen phones with out it anymore, its the best way to interface with these kinds of devices.
 
mstier09 said:
Does this thing even have multitouch? I can't imagine why anyone would develop touch screen phones with out it anymore, its the best way to interface with these kinds of devices.
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multitouch is a gimmick. i have an iphone 3gs and i only use it because the screen resolution is horribly low. the n900 has an 800x480 screen so you dont need to zoom pages to view them right.

i should have waited for the n900, meh oh well i cant use it on atnt anyways
 
I don't think anyone has made a point about zoom. The Nokia N900 has a stupid way to zoom in on webpages. There are two ways to zoom: one by double-tapping like you do on the iPhone, but the main way to zoom in is by drawing swirls on the screen, no joke. Look it up if you don't believe me.
 
RiceRacerDX said:
I don't think anyone has made a point about zoom. The Nokia N900 has a stupid way to zoom in on webpages. There are two ways to zoom: one by double-tapping like you do on the iPhone, but the main way to zoom in is by drawing swirls on the screen, no joke. Look it up if you don't believe me.
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Nothing wrong with that. It's just as intuitive to circle the region you want zoomed, as it is to do an expanding motion. And you can do it with one-handed.

The only really useful part of multi-touch is when it's acting as a keyboard, and allowing a next touch before the first one rises. Or for games.

Of course, if you have physical keys, the above isn't needed so much, if at all.

Keys are also handy to scroll down a webpage without covering the screen and accidentally hitting links. Not to mention that Apple ridiculously left out any method to quickly scroll to a file position, or to go to the end of a page.
 
...thats what they said about the N97 and we all know how that one panned out

boonlar said:
multitouch is a gimmick. i have an iphone 3gs and i only use it because the screen resolution is horribly low. the n900 has an 800x480 screen so you dont need to zoom pages to view them right.

i should have waited for the n900, meh oh well i cant use it on atnt anyways
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Its not just about Zooming and your argument doesn't even make sense if a screen has a higher res it means things are generally smaller to read and need to be enlarged. Circular motion to zoom is a gimmick and very unnatural.

The qwerty is also kinda small given the real estate and the space bar is also still pushed to the right a la N97. Wonder when they will learn

After watching a demo video i'd take HTC/Android over this.
 
Nokia's approach: "lets throw all our crappy, mostly useless, technology and a 5 year old operating system on one device, call it a bunch of random numbers and letters, and tout it yet another iPhone killer, without any new innovation at all, and hope it works better than the 5800 and N97"
Apple approach: "our iPhone is good, but lets get some great new innovative ideas to make it even better, using the right combination of everything to make a great device"
 
I know "Tablet" is part of the name, but it's got the same size screen (3.5") as an iPhone and it has a phone in it...so it seems to be a competitor for the iPhone.

Not that it's going to be an iPhone Killer...
 
This looks pretty nice, but I doubt any carrier will pick it up, and therefore it is going to cost way too much for the average consumer.
 
boonlar said:
show me something better
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hate to say it, but Windows Mobile does 10x the things stock iPhones do.
iPhone is beautiful in it's easy os, but the things they've touted as revolutionary, you've been able to do with Windows Mobile for years.

anyway, "better" is a subjective thing based on user wants and needs.
 
Revelation78 said:
WOW! The Microsoft comment was a 747 flying low right over your head and you totally missed it, at least the meaning of it!

Maemo the best mobile OS out there, nah, i can think of others. Not to mention since Nokia has touched it, it won't be good.

You know I would love for them to prove me wrong.
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You've never responded. So what's the better mobile OS out there?

patiently awaits while he goes off googling
 
This does seem to have phone capabilities, but I'm with you on the marketing by Nokia. It seems that they are marketing this more along the lines of their yet to be released netbook w/3G connectivity...i.e. as an "always connected" mobile computing device, and less of a phone. Similar to the netbooks offered with subsidy through AT&T, Verizon, etc. Looks like this one is bound for T-Mobile USA with the unique 3G band it operates on, which that fact alone seems to severely limit the potential market for this....not to mention Nokia can't seem to market ANY high end phone/MID properly in the US. Why make this, or any other MID they've produced, if one of your biggest potential markets doesn't know the stupid thing exists!?
 
chris975d said:
This does seem to have phone capabilities
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It's hidden in the "full specs".

On the European site they actually write "It's a phone" ... after you open some main headline.

They dropped the ball with the lack of DVB-H on the N97, and now they dropped it again with the lack of an FM radio on the N900.
 
Just to prevent any further confusion about whether it's a phone or not. ;)

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Operating frequency

  • Quad-band GSM EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
  • WCDMA 900/1700/2100 MHz
Data network

GPRS class A, multislot class 32, maximum speed 107/64.2 kbps (DL/UL) EDGE class A, multislot class 32, maximum speed 296/177.6 kbps (DL/UL) WCDMA 900/1700/2100. Maximum speed PS 384/384 kbps (DL/UL) HSPA 900/1700/2100. Maximum speed PS 10/2 Mbps (DL/UL) WLAN IEEE 802.11b/g
Call features

  • Integrated hands-free stereo speakers
  • Call waiting, call hold, call divert
  • Call timer
  • Logging of dialed, received and missed calls
  • Speed dialing via contact widget
  • Virbrating alert (internal)
  • Side volume keys
  • Mute/unmute
  • Contacts with images
  • Conference calling with up to 3 participants
  • Internet calling
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cube said:
It's hidden in the "full specs".

On the European site they actually write "It's a phone" ... after you open some main headline.

They dropped the ball with the lack of DVB-H on the N97, and now they dropped it again with the lack of an FM radio on the N900.
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I think the thing Nokia always "drops the ball" with is the advertising/marketing, particularly in the US. This looks like a great device, has great specs, but Nokia NEVER pushes their great products out to the people. Look at how good (on paper) the current N97 is, but how many people in the US (outside of tech forums, etc) even know the thing exists? But 9 out of 10 people on the street know what an iPhone is, and if they don't have one already, would love to have one. It doesn't matter if the thing has 10x the capabilities of an iPhone if no one knows it's even out there to buy. And knowing Nokia's history of non-existent advertising on their high end devices, this N900 will be another sales flop, at least in the US.
 
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