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venividivigor

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Throughout all these years, I've tried to avoid the realization that Apple's OS's are filled with bugs. It's getting frustrating. For someone like me, who has OCD, these bugs are getting worse and worse. They are the little things that bug me, and it seems like I'm the only one who notices these or goes through these predicaments.

I'm just admitting the truth and it's too bad I can't switch, as I'm too far into the whole ecosystem.
Invested too much time and money into this, just so it could 'just work'.
 
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throAU

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Examples?

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OS X i have run into a few bugs, but as far as iOS goes i can't think of anything to complain about?

Certainly run into far less issues than I have when trying android out the last 2 times I tried it.
 
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AZhappyjack

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Throughout all these years, I've tried to avoid the realization that Apple's OS's are filled with bugs. It's getting frustrating. For someone like me, who has OCD, these bugs are getting worse and worse. They are the little things that bug me, and it seems like I'm the only one who notices these or goes through these predicaments.

I'm just admitting the truth and it's too bad I can't switch, as I'm too far into the whole ecosystem.

All software has bugs... that said, what are the bugs that fill all of Apple's OSes?
 

venividivigor

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Examples?

Let me try to think... and keep in mind, they can be the be the littlest things:
- Search bar disappears when going from landscape to portrait in Messages app
- Duplicate 'Recent Locations' for Contacts in Calendar when adding a location to an event
- Syncs can be broken easily in the Photos app, the app creates phantom photos when deleting recently taken photos before they get the chance to upload to iCloud Photo Library
- On my iPad -> Camera app, the previously taken photo is not the last photo taken. They are out of order.
- In the Videos app, the "Marked as Watched" badges is dodgy and doesn't always display the correct number.
- Sometimes Movie/TV Show artworks don't download for recently purchased items and it forces me to log in and out of iTunes, just to make it download.
- iTunes Store/App Store banners get broken all the time on the iPad, it's hard to explain, but they don't cycle as they would normally do.
- Trying to add a card to Wallet is so tedious. You get the error "This Card cannot be added." And you would have to try repeatedly to let it be added, not only is that annoying, but there's also a chance you'll encounter this on your Apple Watch app and iPad.
- I deleted data from the Health app, because the Qardio app started logging in duplicate information in the Health app. After clearing all data and letting Qardio write data back in to Health app, it now shows "No data" when going into "Show all data" in the dashboard, but the graph still shows the data.
- Settings app on the iPad is bad, all the menus are pulled down when you come back in to it.
- When you add a photo to a contact, but you want to readjust it, the fix will revert to the last photo you first changed it too, which is a hassle once you've finally perfected and centered it out.
- Not really a bug, but Apple keeps changing metadata for Apple Music, which REALLY disrupts my very strong organization of my library
- On the iPhone, when you go to your history in Safari, the search bar is half way showing, and my OCD is driving me crazy on that.
- Mail notifications are no longer synced. What happened to synced notifications? Back then, if I would open a message on my iPhone, the badges on my iPad would disappear.
- In Music app, it's so annoying every time you open it and you get "An error occurred."
- On the Apple TV 4, [as of right now] one of the radio stations (Country station) is blank.
- Search suggestions in Music app keep disappearing or showing.
- Back then you can set a Sort Order for playlists in your music library, but that no longer works, and you have to manually put it alphabetically your self.
- I'm swiping through pages in folders and all of a sudden the pages would skip or jump to the previous one for no reason.
- Sometimes the taptic engine would stop working for my iPhone and I have to restart it.
- This happened to me a couple times: the battery percentage stopped going down, and when it was happening, I assumed the battery life was hella amazing that day, until it inconveniently died on me when I most needed it.
- Sometimes theres no news in Proactive
- Opening apps on the Apple Watch is sometimes a nuisance. The app is stuck on endless cycle of it trying to open and then having it crashed.
- I'm swiping thru my glances on my Watch or widgets in Notification Center, and they end up opening the app even tho I'm swiping, not tapping.
- Whenever I just use my iPhone in the house and stuff, it's so fluid and fast, but when I'm out in public somewhere, for some reason PERFORMANCE begins to slow down, so inconveniently. It takes forever for the phone to unlock, then the animations slow down. Then trying to enter an app is time consuming, you tap the icon and it turns black, and pauses. It freezes. Like it's unresponsive and then it finally opens.
- There's a lot of things that get inconsistent between the iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and MacBook, which drives me insane. The feeling of things being fragmented, bothers me. (Sorry I have really bad OCD)
- All stock apps are terrible.... You could say that

For OS X:
- Every time you open the settings tab in Messages, the settings tab will keep dropping lower and lower and lower every time you open it.
- Every time you open the settings tab in FaceTime, it will appear on the bottom, underneath the dock.
- Why don't push notifications go to Mail app when it's closed???
- Game Center keeps opening in the bottom of the screen, even when I force it to be placed in the center.
- Third-party apps got corrupted after I enabled FileVault, forcing me to reinstall ALL of them and redoing the settings for each individual apps
- Not only that, but I was forced to restore my entire Mac because enabling FileVault corrupted it. Made me stuck on "Encryption paused."
- When changing pictures for your profile, it'll create a duplicate pixelated version of itself in the "Recents" tab when selecting a photo.
- When you enter Time Machine, and exit out of it, it readjusts your Finder window, which is annoying when you have it sized out and in order (because you use grids, etc.)
- 1Password ended up being corrupted for me and I was forced to reinstall it and redo my settings [although that could be the app developers problem, but still, very inconvenient.)
- Now that I have FileVault turned on, when entering a password in the beginning, the caps lock is broken, it inverts on its own, making it unreliable. I have to use the shift-key for that.
- AirDrop is crap

I can keep going on and on, but I don't want to go on all my devices and have to find the bugs I've encountered.
And no, I don't go digging for bugs, they are things I've encountered when using it.
[doublepost=1457850698][/doublepost]And also I don't want to rely my services on developers who may potentially screw you over in the long run, for example: discontinuing the app or service. I'm thinking about long term, but yet I don't really like to rely on huge companies either, because they take FOREVER to update their apps, or because they think their big shots that they can do whatever they want and not add in iOS's new api's because they know you won't find an alternative. IE. YouTube and Facebook. That's why I don't like jailbreaking or hacks, I prefer stock, cuz with Apple, things don't really just come and go. But they have hella bugs with their system and apps. And I choose to not have different devices with different OS's because that is annoying, they just won't work. They don't communicate with each other very well.
 
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C DM

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All software has bugs... that said, what are the bugs that fill all of Apple's OSes?
Yup, everything has bugs. Even most things in real life (as in non-software) is far from perfect in one way or another. Life goes on.
 

venividivigor

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Yup, everything has bugs. Even most things in real life (as in non-software) is far from perfect in one way or another. Life goes on.
Yes, but these are things Apple could fix and could do better. You'd expect a certain kind of quality & standard for Apple to release.

I mean, no matter what I'm getting ****ed in the ass by Apple anyway. I don't really have any options. I'm just saying all this so my voice gets heard too. Cuz if we don't make any noise about this, then we're just letting Apple get away with buggy filled software.
 

C DM

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Yes, but these are things Apple could fix and could do better. You'd expect a certain kind of quality & standard for Apple to release.

I mean, no matter what I'm getting ****ed in the ass by Apple anyway. I don't really have any options. I'm just saying all this so my voice gets heard too. Cuz if we don't make any noise about this, then we're just letting Apple get away with buggy filled software.
Just like many little things can be fixed in real life as well, some paint that's a touch off here and there, some landscaping that isn't quite lined up, some this or that--some things get "fixed" sooner than others and other things not for a long time or ever even until they are simply gotten rid of or replaced.

Software, especially something as complex as an OS that is evolving as well, will pretty much always have some issues. It's basically down to what those issues are and how they affect things and how that fits into the resources and timing that is available and needs to be split across many other things that are going on.

It seems that some people seem to have some expectations that are sometimes a little and other times beyond what is actually pragmatic. Absolutely nothing wrong with making note of issues and reporting them and hoping they get addressed--and that's where the crux of it lies between hope and expectation.
 

garirry

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If I personally see something I speak to Apple via their feedback option.
For god's sake how do you expect to destroy a tower with a kitchen knife? I know that posting feedback may help sometimes. However, as it has been proven multiple times, Apple clearly ignored those claims of bugs. Until there will be a massive sort of "revolt", then they won't budge an inch. Providing feedback is downright pointless in this case.
 

bandofbrothers

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For god's sake how do you expect to destroy a tower with a kitchen knife? I know that posting feedback may help sometimes. However, as it has been proven multiple times, Apple clearly ignored those claims of bugs. Until there will be a massive sort of "revolt", then they won't budge an inch. Providing feedback is downright pointless in this case.


You have your opinion and I have mine.

I really do not see a "revolt" happening anytime soon.

As has been said in this thread and many other posts online elsewhere bugs exist in both iOS , Android and other platform os.

The feedback avenues for Apple and other companies are there to be able to provide constructive feedback.

I'm not sure how it's been "proven multiple times" that Apple ignores such feedback. Most iOS updates I've installed include bug fixes.

One such recent example was the time bug.

I do respect your opinion.

I'll put my tin foil hat on and carry on. :)
 

John Mcgregor

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- Every time you open the settings tab in Messages, the settings tab will keep dropping lower and lower and lower every time you open it.

I don't have time to try all of them, but this for example i can't reproduce.
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Are you sure it's my your OCD getting worse rather than the iOS getting worse?

It's understandable. Sometimes it makes me mad. It's not the end of the world, but the fact that little issue exists is enough. Many of them are just cosmetic and don't require any testing just to do the resizing calculations properly for example.
 
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Throughout all these years, I've tried to avoid the realization that Apple's OS's are filled with bugs. It's getting frustrating. For someone like me, who has OCD, these bugs are getting worse and worse. They are the little things that bug me, and it seems like I'm the only one who notices these or goes through these predicaments.

I'm just admitting the truth and it's too bad I can't switch, as I'm too far into the whole ecosystem.
Invested too much time and money into this, just so it could 'just work'.
For sure, you are going to find the same number of bugs (at least) on ANY other operative system. And surely Apple has a better update policy than other's.

So yes, iOS has bugs. Like any other software.
 
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For god's sake how do you expect to destroy a tower with a kitchen knife? I know that posting feedback may help sometimes. However, as it has been proven multiple times, Apple clearly ignored those claims of bugs. Until there will be a massive sort of "revolt", then they won't budge an inch. Providing feedback is downright pointless in this case.

I have reported 6 very serious bugs for iOS 9.3 so far and engineering asked for more info the next day. 4 are already fixed and they are working on the last 2 right now. One issue involves bypassing passcode lock and touch ID.

No one is ignoring anything.
 
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Let me try to think... and keep in mind, they can be the be the littlest things:
- Search bar disappears when going from landscape to portrait in Messages app
- Duplicate 'Recent Locations' for Contacts in Calendar when adding a location to an event
- Syncs can be broken easily in the Photos app, the app creates phantom photos when deleting recently taken photos before they get the chance to upload to iCloud Photo Library
- On my iPad -> Camera app, the previously taken photo is not the last photo taken. They are out of order.
- In the Videos app, the "Marked as Watched" badges is dodgy and doesn't always display the correct number.
- Sometimes Movie/TV Show artworks don't download for recently purchased items and it forces me to log in and out of iTunes, just to make it download.
- iTunes Store/App Store banners get broken all the time on the iPad, it's hard to explain, but they don't cycle as they would normally do.
- Trying to add a card to Wallet is so tedious. You get the error "This Card cannot be added." And you would have to try repeatedly to let it be added, not only is that annoying, but there's also a chance you'll encounter this on your Apple Watch app and iPad.
- I deleted data from the Health app, because the Qardio app started logging in duplicate information in the Health app. After clearing all data and letting Qardio write data back in to Health app, it now shows "No data" when going into "Show all data" in the dashboard, but the graph still shows the data.
- Settings app on the iPad is bad, all the menus are pulled down when you come back in to it.
- When you add a photo to a contact, but you want to readjust it, the fix will revert to the last photo you first changed it too, which is a hassle once you've finally perfected and centered it out.
- Not really a bug, but Apple keeps changing metadata for Apple Music, which REALLY disrupts my very strong organization of my library
- On the iPhone, when you go to your history in Safari, the search bar is half way showing, and my OCD is driving me crazy on that.
- Mail notifications are no longer synced. What happened to synced notifications? Back then, if I would open a message on my iPhone, the badges on my iPad would disappear.
- In Music app, it's so annoying every time you open it and you get "An error occurred."
- On the Apple TV 4, [as of right now] one of the radio stations (Country station) is blank.
- Search suggestions in Music app keep disappearing or showing.
- Back then you can set a Sort Order for playlists in your music library, but that no longer works, and you have to manually put it alphabetically your self.
- I'm swiping through pages in folders and all of a sudden the pages would skip or jump to the previous one for no reason.
- Sometimes the taptic engine would stop working for my iPhone and I have to restart it.
- This happened to me a couple times: the battery percentage stopped going down, and when it was happening, I assumed the battery life was hella amazing that day, until it inconveniently died on me when I most needed it.
- Sometimes theres no news in Proactive
- Opening apps on the Apple Watch is sometimes a nuisance. The app is stuck on endless cycle of it trying to open and then having it crashed.
- I'm swiping thru my glances on my Watch or widgets in Notification Center, and they end up opening the app even tho I'm swiping, not tapping.
- Whenever I just use my iPhone in the house and stuff, it's so fluid and fast, but when I'm out in public somewhere, for some reason PERFORMANCE begins to slow down, so inconveniently. It takes forever for the phone to unlock, then the animations slow down. Then trying to enter an app is time consuming, you tap the icon and it turns black, and pauses. It freezes. Like it's unresponsive and then it finally opens.
- There's a lot of things that get inconsistent between the iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and MacBook, which drives me insane. The feeling of things being fragmented, bothers me. (Sorry I have really bad OCD)
- All stock apps are terrible.... You could say that

For OS X:
- Every time you open the settings tab in Messages, the settings tab will keep dropping lower and lower and lower every time you open it.
- Every time you open the settings tab in FaceTime, it will appear on the bottom, underneath the dock.
- Why don't push notifications go to Mail app when it's closed???
- Game Center keeps opening in the bottom of the screen, even when I force it to be placed in the center.
- Third-party apps got corrupted after I enabled FileVault, forcing me to reinstall ALL of them and redoing the settings for each individual apps
- Not only that, but I was forced to restore my entire Mac because enabling FileVault corrupted it. Made me stuck on "Encryption paused."
- When changing pictures for your profile, it'll create a duplicate pixelated version of itself in the "Recents" tab when selecting a photo.
- When you enter Time Machine, and exit out of it, it readjusts your Finder window, which is annoying when you have it sized out and in order (because you use grids, etc.)
- 1Password ended up being corrupted for me and I was forced to reinstall it and redo my settings [although that could be the app developers problem, but still, very inconvenient.)
- Now that I have FileVault turned on, when entering a password in the beginning, the caps lock is broken, it inverts on its own, making it unreliable. I have to use the shift-key for that.
- AirDrop is crap

I can keep going on and on, but I don't want to go on all my devices and have to find the bugs I've encountered.
And no, I don't go digging for bugs, they are things I've encountered when using it.
[doublepost=1457850698][/doublepost]And also I don't want to rely my services on developers who may potentially screw you over in the long run, for example: discontinuing the app or service. I'm thinking about long term, but yet I don't really like to rely on huge companies either, because they take FOREVER to update their apps, or because they think their big shots that they can do whatever they want and not add in iOS's new api's because they know you won't find an alternative. IE. YouTube and Facebook. That's why I don't like jailbreaking or hacks, I prefer stock, cuz with Apple, things don't really just come and go. But they have hella bugs with their system and apps. And I choose to not have different devices with different OS's because that is annoying, they just won't work. They don't communicate with each other very well.
Many, and probably I should write MOST, of your bugs aren't present on my devices... And a few are related to third party apps and not Apple.
Btw software is getting more complex over the time, so an higher number of bugs are to be expected.
The point is: is Apple working on that ? I think they are.
I'd like to have an error free OS, for sure. But it doesn't exist.
For god's sake how do you expect to destroy a tower with a kitchen knife? I know that posting feedback may help sometimes. However, as it has been proven multiple times, Apple clearly ignored those claims of bugs. Until there will be a massive sort of "revolt", then they won't budge an inch. Providing feedback is downright pointless in this case.
That's just not true.
They are reading feedbacks, but they have to prioritize everything. I still see bug fixes in every single iOS release.
There are people reporting very minor issues or just glitches. People reporting serious issues are contacted by Apple .
 
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I7guy

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It's a long list of annoying items. Some of those items are not applicable to me, some I can't reproduce, some I don't care about. But if you are focused on perfection in the world around you, I can see how these can be annoying.

The bug with the taptic engine was discussed in another MR post recently. It seems it may have something to do with bluetooth according to what the poster said and is being worked on.

Whenever I just use my iPhone in the house and stuff, it's so fluid and fast, but when I'm out in public somewhere, for some reason PERFORMANCE begins to slow down, so inconveniently. It takes forever for the phone to unlock, then the animations slow down. Then trying to enter an app is time consuming, you tap the icon and it turns black, and pauses. It freezes. Like it's unresponsive and then it finally opens.

As far as the above, the symptom makes no sense unless it is wifi related. How could the phone know you are out in public unless you have some geofenced app?
 
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For god's sake how do you expect to destroy a tower with a kitchen knife? I know that posting feedback may help sometimes. However, as it has been proven multiple times, Apple clearly ignored those claims of bugs. Until there will be a massive sort of "revolt", then they won't budge an inch. Providing feedback is downright pointless in this case.

There is a huge difference between ignoring those "claims of bugs" (interesting in and of itself), and overall priority in the grand scheme of things.

All software has bugs. All designers make trades-offs to some degree. All companies have road maps of sorts for their products which many not align with your or my expectations. In that case, you need to seriously consider your options - move on to another platform or live with the things you encounter until they are addressed.

And reporting things that you encounter as bugs or annoyances is an integral part of the design/implementation evolution.
 
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simon lefisch

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Let me try to think... and keep in mind, they can be the be the littlest things:
- Search bar disappears when going from landscape to portrait in Messages app
That's quite a list and I not going to try and explain everything on here, however regarding this bug....you do know that you can pull down the Search Bar in Messages right? By default it's not supposed to show (at least, it's never shown for me unless I pull it down) regardless of portrait/landscape view.
 
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Many, and probably I should write MOST, of your bugs aren't present on my devices... And a few are related to third party apps and not Apple.
Btw software is getting more complex over the time, so an higher number of bugs are to be expected.
The point is: is Apple working on that ? I think they are.
I'd like to have an error free OS, for sure. But it doesn't exist.

That's just not true.
They are reading feedbacks, but they have to prioritize everything. I still see bug fixes in every single iOS release.
There are people reporting very minor issues or just glitches. People reporting serious issues are contacted by Apple .
Do you know that? We can prioritize our reported bugs. Maybe Apple prioritizing that too. But we dont know the truth and this is not make any sense. Bugs is bugs!
We all paying to Apple for make our life's easier, not harder! If Apple didnt have enought engineer for bug fixes. i dont care! Apple should take a more engineer for it. We just want perfect OS and we payed for it. We are just a customer. Maybe Apple filling the money box with this way. Maybe its a cheaper way. Every blinkered Apple defender saying this: Not enought engineer for bug fixes at World's most biggest tech company. In fact, even the crows laughs this. If Apple has a enought engineer. So why im discovering bugs! is it make me engineer? Hell no! Something wrong in Apple. Maybe todays problem solver method is not enought for today. i dont want a discover bugs anymore. i dont want to use my iPhone 3 hours(horrible battery life in beta builds) And i dont want a spend my time for bug reports. its not my job. But Apple didnt see bugs. And Apple forcing us to use Beta builds. Because Apple didnt see bugs even in latest final builds. We have to use beta builds for fixes, for feedback app, for system logs for hopes or something. And it makes me angry. Something has to change.
 
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Do you know that? We can prioritize our reported bugs. Maybe Apple prioritizing that too. But we dont know the truth and this is not make any sense. Bugs is bugs!
We all paying to Apple for make our life's easier, not harder! If Apple didnt have enought engineer for bug fixes. i dont care! Apple should take a more engineer for it. We just want perfect OS and we payed for it. We are just a customer. Maybe Apple filling the money box with this way. Maybe its a cheaper way. Every blinkered Apple defender saying this: Not enought engineer for bug fixes at World's most biggest tech company. In fact, even the crows laughs this. If Apple has a enought engineer. So why im discovering bugs! is it make me engineer? Hell no! Something wrong in Apple. Maybe todays problem solver method is not enought for today. i dont want a discover bugs anymore. i dont want to use my iPhone 3 hours(horrible battery life in beta builds) And i dont want a spend my time for bug reports. its not my job. But Apple didnt see bugs. And Apple forcing us to use Beta builds. Because Apple didnt see bugs in latest final builds. We have to use beta builds for fixes, for feedback app, for system logs for hopes or something. And it makes me angry. Something has to change.
You are not going to get a perfect product in absolute form. You have to pick your battles and decide what you like, what you don't like and does what you like win over what you don't like.

Maybe some of these glitches, will be fixed. A bug is a bug as you said, but not all bugs are created equal. A bug that downs an aircraft vs a status bar glitch have obviously differing consequences.
 
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You are not going to get a perfect product in absolute form. You have to pick your battles and decide what you like, what you don't like and does what you like win over what you don't like.

Maybe some of these glitches, will be fixed. A bug is a bug as you said, but not all bugs are created equal. A bug that downs an aircraft vs a status bar glitch have obviously differing consequences.
Thats right. Human being always wants more and more. Apple still my favourite tech company and iOS too. I cant discuss about that. But as i said, Apple has to be more than this. if statusbar glitch is a small issue why Apple testers didnt see it. Apple has a testers isnt it? And this guys didnt comes to work only drink coffee?
 
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I7guy

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Thats right. Human being always wants more and more. Apple still my favourite tech company and iOS too. I cant discuss about that. But as i said, Apple has to be more than this. if statusbar glitch is a small issue why Apple testers didnt see it. Apple has a testers isnt it? And this guys didnt comes to work only drink coffee?
Not every small bug like a display glitch gets fixed before bigger issues.
 
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