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App library needs a overhaul, apple should let users set up their app library the way they want.

I'd have my most used apps up the top, everything doesn't need to be in folders.

It's 2020 apple, stop locking down the home screen, give users more freedom.

on point!!
 
App library needs a overhaul, apple should let users set up their app library the way they want.

I'd have my most used apps up the top, everything doesn't need to be in folders.

It's 2020 apple, stop locking down the home screen, give users more freedom.

Do what you want to the home screen... the App Library doesn't impact that or your ability to set up your home page the way you want.
 
Do what you want to the home screen... the App Library doesn't impact that or your ability to set up your home page the way you want.

on point!

I’m so sick of people saying they should have the ability to edit the AppLibrary.

It’s called “create your own folders on the Home Screen like you have been able to do for years!!”
 
Seems like everyone is excited for widgets and the app library and I am just not that thrilled......

Widgets - I get the appeal of them, but the issue I have is spacing, the small widget doesn’t give enough info and the big widgets take up to 8 apps spots... While it is nice to have glanceable information, I’m not sure its that big of a improvement from just the ordinary today view which is an all widget page. I saw some interesting ideas with smart widget at the top and then 2x Siri suggestions widget below that, would make a always changing home screen with intelligence. I was like wow that will be awesome, but when I tried it same thing happened just like Siri Watch Face. In the end I am searching for where things are when the “intelligence” doesn’t display the app I want to use at the time.

App Library - I hate this idea, the reason is because I have already organized my apps I know where they are and muscle memory I could almost go to apps with my eyes closed. To have apple then basically do another way to organize and search for them without you being able to customize it, to me seems like a step backwards.

iOS 14 - Some people are saying this is for power users, but I almost feel like its for the non-power user that doesn’t organize anything on their homescreens and they are just a mess. This will auto-cleanup and organize that space, but for Power Users I am really not sure this is for them.

Summary - Now I know I don’t have to use these things, and right now I am probably not going to, but it just sucks when most of the big features are kinda of letdown, and I know they can’t please everyone, and this gives options which is great, but I would have rather see them do a total re-design to iOS home screen instead of just adding some android features like grabbing widgets, and an modified app drawer.

AddOn - I will say though, I am not just crapping all over iOS 14. The animations are really well done and buttery, for a first beta it is extremely smooth and not a ton of bugs which is impressive.

I'm just not sold on widgets and the app library.
"To have apple then basically do another way to organize and search for them without you being able to customize it, to me seems like a step backwards." How true! To me Apple's worst feature is their insidious corporate "we know what's better for you than you do" attitude. From the very beginning, the great thing about the personal computer was its ability to empower the individual user. That was the hook that originally grabbed everybody. Over the years, especially after the advent of OSX, Apple has gradually lost touch with this guiding principle. Nowadays a lot of stuff has to work and feel the way Apple (or even individual Apple execs, and when I say this I'm looking at you, Eddie Cue) chooses, not the way that the end user necessarily wants. How would you like it if somebody marched into your living room and started rearranging the furniture and determining what pictures got hung on the walls?
 
"To have apple then basically do another way to organize and search for them without you being able to customize it, to me seems like a step backwards." How true! To me Apple's worst feature is their insidious corporate "we know what's better for you than you do" attitude. From the very beginning, the great thing about the personal computer was its ability to empower the individual user. That was the hook that originally grabbed everybody. Over the years, especially after the advent of OSX, Apple has gradually lost touch with this guiding principle. Nowadays a lot of stuff has to work and feel the way Apple (or even individual Apple execs, and when I say this I'm looking at you, Eddie Cue) chooses, not the way that the end user necessarily wants. How would you like it if somebody marched into your living room and started rearranging the furniture and determining what pictures got hung on the walls?

And you all continue to line up and feed at the Apple trough, despite stating, nay, complaining about the obivious shortcomings.

It's been that way since iPhone was introduced - maybe longer. Apple has been called "the walled garden", ostensibly as a pat on the back to the security that affords... while others almost spit the words as an obvious knock against their freedom to do things their way. But Apple has always limited what we can do and what we can customize.

That speaks volumes, doesn't it?
 
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I love when the very small minority of power users on here think they speak for Apple’s gajillion other customers that barely even know how to turn on their phone, much less create folders.

App Library is for them.

I’m using it just to keep my Home Screen clean and love it now. What turned into a short term experiment has now led me to just keeping it and using it for all my apps.
 
App library needs a overhaul, apple should let users set up their app library the way they want.

I'd have my most used apps up the top, everything doesn't need to be in folders.

It's 2020 apple, stop locking down the home screen, give users more freedom.

Definitely agree with this. I’d also like the option to disable it via settings too. Right now for me it’s totally redundant and it’s just an extra unused screen that i occasionally accidentally scroll onto. My home screens and folders are organised much better in my view and I really didn’t need the App Library.

There’s no correct answer as to whether the App Library is good or not, it’s a personal opinion based on how we use our phones. It would be great to have the choice whether to have it or not .
 
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Definitely agree with this. I’d also like the option to disable it via settings too. Right now for me it’s totally redundant and it’s just an extra unused screen that i occasionally accidentally scroll onto. My home screens and folders are organised much better in my view and I really didn’t need the App Library.

There’s no correct answer as to whether the App Library is good or not, it’s a personal opinion based on how we use our phones. It would be great to have the choice whether to have it or not .

Couldn't agree more, haven’t used it at all since installing iOS 14.
 
Is there any way to just lock the 1st page of the Homescreen??? I'm getting sick and tired of rearranging every time I put a new goddamn widget.
 
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Seems like everyone is excited for widgets and the app library and I am just not that thrilled......
I'm just not sold on widgets and the app library.

I agree it would be good to be able to turn off the app library. I have removed all but one Widget.
 
The main thing I would like to see in the app library is the ability to sort by last used date and not just alphabetical. It could serve both as a quick way to access your most used apps and also a convenient way to identify junk apps that you can delete.
 
The main thing I would like to see in the app library is the ability to sort by last used date and not just alphabetical. It could serve both as a quick way to access your most used apps and also a convenient way to identify junk apps that you can delete.

The Siri Suggestion widget comes pretty close to that request... add a couple of those on the page immediately preceding the App Library and Bob's your uncle.
 
The Siri Suggestion widget comes pretty close to that request... add a couple of those on the page immediately preceding the App Library and Bob's your uncle.
For access to recent apps yea that’s true. Actually I only threw that in as an extra comment because what I actually want is a way to easily identify apps I don’t use so I can periodically clean then up.

Some people might find a list of recent apps handy but I think the changing order would get in the way for me. I like to rely on muscle memory after a while of getting used to where things are.
 
I love when the very small minority of power users on here think they speak for Apple’s gajillion other customers that barely even know how to turn on their phone, much less create folders.

I think Apple messed up by making the App library look LIKE the home screen but having it work differently than the home screen.

I totally agree with your point but, in a way, I don't blame people for getting frustrated. We all remember the quote "Design is how it works." From that perspective, putting the same visual design onto a different working paradigm is a bit of a bad move.

At the very least, they should stretch the Library's categories to screen width so they look a little bit more like widgets. This would really stop people from thinking they're just looking at large folders. I think that alone would make a bid difference.
 
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I think Apple messed up by making the App library look LIKE the home screen while working differently from the home screen.

I totally agree with your point but, in a way, I don't blame people for getting frustrated.

I probably should have said in my post (and Ive said this in other posts), I do agree that it would help to have an option to turn it off so the page isn't there. I wouldn't care, but damn, if it bugs people that much to have an extra page...
 
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For access to recent apps yea that’s true. Actually I only threw that in as an extra comment because what I actually want is a way to easily identify apps I don’t use so I can periodically clean then up.

Some people might find a list of recent apps handy but I think the changing order would get in the way for me. I like to rely on muscle memory after a while of getting used to where things are.

In other words, you're complaining, and when someone offers a suggestion, you move the goalpost. That sounds like some one who just wants to whine.
 
Seems like everyone is excited for widgets and the app library and I am just not that thrilled......

Widgets - I get the appeal of them, but the issue I have is spacing, the small widget doesn’t give enough info and the big widgets take up to 8 apps spots... While it is nice to have glanceable information, I’m not sure its that big of a improvement from just the ordinary today view which is an all widget page. I saw some interesting ideas with smart widget at the top and then 2x Siri suggestions widget below that, would make a always changing home screen with intelligence.

And have fun rearranging them. Every change you make runs the risk of cascading through all your screens as widgets and app icons reflow all on their own.

You used to be able to manage your iPhone's screen layout right in iTunes. We lost that they got rid of all the "bloat" (functionality) in the name of streamlining.
 
Is there a way to force widgets to go to a particular place on the screen (such as three down the left side of the phone) or are you stuck with where Apple forces them to go? (Top down, full screen).

Yes. I too am almost amused at the optimism of this question. ;)
 
And have fun rearranging them. Every change you make runs the risk of cascading through all your screens as widgets and app icons reflow all on their own.

You used to be able to manage your iPhone's screen layout right in iTunes. We lost that they got rid of all the "bloat" (functionality) in the name of streamlining.

lots of people just leave things wherever they land. but many of us just organize our apps on our phones, in the quirky way that works... and we've survived. it's not that difficult.

what's funny is how many people on these forums railed against the 'bloat' of itunes; now, ppl rail against not having that 'bloat'.
 
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Is there a way to force widgets to go to a particular place on the screen (such as three down the left side of the phone) or are you stuck with where Apple forces them to go? (Top down, full screen).

Yes. I too am almost amused at the optimism of this question. ;)
You can move them the same as app icons.
 
so they have to fill up the top row and then so on, right? Can’t stack them or drop them to a particular location.
You can have all the widgets on the left, only if you fill the rest of the space (i.e. the space on the right) with app icons. They work the same was as app icons, so the screen has to be utilised as you say.

I don't know what you mean by "stack", but widgets can be stacked as in you can put same-sized widgets on top of each other and then you swipe through them.
 
lots of people just leave things wherever they land. but many of us just organize our apps on our phones, in the quirky way that works... and we've survived. it's not that difficult.

Not that difficult? Oh, but it most definitely is, if you don't want to "leave things where they land". Fact is, getting iOS to let you arrange widgets and apps in any kind of predictable or controllable way quickly turns into a horrible tile puzzle nobody asked to play.

What's especially baffling is that they provided a way to hide individual screens, but somehow letting us reorder said screens was apparently too hard. Clearly, this whole widget business was rushed out without them even providing the simplest tools for managing it.

what's funny is how many people on these forums railed against the 'bloat' of itunes; now, ppl rail against not having that 'bloat'.

Well, I was never one of those people. I would dearly love to be able to manage my iOS home page layout in on my Mac since they certainly haven't been able to figure out how to do it on the iPhone itself.
 
Not that difficult? Oh, but it most definitely is, if you don't want to "leave things where they land". Fact is, getting iOS to let you arrange widgets and apps in any kind of predictable or controllable way quickly turns into a horrible tile puzzle nobody asked to play.

What's especially baffling is that they provided a way to hide individual screens, but somehow letting us reorder said screens was apparently too hard. Clearly, this whole widget business was rushed out without them even providing the simplest tools for managing it.



Well, I was never one of those people. I would dearly love to be able to manage my iOS home page layout in on my Mac since they certainly haven't been able to figure out how to do it on the iPhone itself.

i get that you find it difficult... yet this hasn't stopped millions of ios users from organizing their apps on their phones.
 
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