The entire pro line is unacceptable and for me thats sad to say cause I am a pro use that switched to the air. One thing I can't stand is people making excuses and just jumping on a company's adverts. Switching from titanium back to aluminum then calling it a better material is utter nonsense. Using titanium gave apple the ability to make a phone slimmer and just as strong as aluminum. The giant bump along the top was done because aluminum has to be thicker and they needed room. Saying the phone using aluminum is better for heat dissipation then adding a vapor chamber, come on. The three colors are the cheapest looking colors and implementation of color ever on any iPhone. The 17's look far more premium. It's heavier, thicker, taller, and wider than the previous pro. Which was already pushing the boundaries of a usable one handed device. I don't like it at all and hopefully next year they don't play us for fools.
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iPhone 17 Pro Number of hardware issues on the Pros this year is unacceptable
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What difference does it make how many units are affected by a particular hardware flaw? Every year there will be at least some issues and we discuss them. Why people become defensive about this and feel the need to talk down anyone discussing problems in a new device is beyond me. You didn't make the device and Apple doesn't need your help on an online forum. Now you go into a thread where the topic is something that is or at least seems to be an issue with a new device and you get lessons in math and English.
There isn't anything wrong with my silver 17 Pro 256gb. Day 1 phone. No scratches. No hissing. No misaligned panels. No nothing but a great phone so far.
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I’m happy for you, I hope the Pro Max I pick up today is the same.
But, you don't own one, do you?So far, all the hardware issues known with the 17 Pro series:
- Aluminum body dents and scratches upon impacts even when the phone is in a case
- Speaker makes buzzing/static noises when the phone is charging and/or listening to audio on very low volumes
- Back camera module makes a clicking sound whenever opening the camera app and/or switching lenses
- Front camera/Face ID sensors make a clicking noise when Face ID activates
Feel free to add any other issues you’ve experienced. This is a ridiculous level of hardware issues for a Pro phone.
If you seem to think none of these issues exist, refer to the links below:
iPhone 17 Pro Max – Static / hissing nois… - Apple Community
discussions.apple.com
Oh look, you are back to troll me. Pretty sure you will need to justify spending your whole year’s salary on a base 17. Definitely keep your 11!There you are!
Still trying to justify your buy...
"Number of hardware issues on the Pros this year is unacceptable"
The guy doesn't even own one.
The heading should be, Number of hardware issues on the Airs this year is unacceptable!
The guy doesn't even own one.
The heading should be, Number of hardware issues on the Airs this year is unacceptable!
I mean, I’m going to pick up my 3rd one today, so technically you’re right but only for about a few hours? 😂
If it’s scratched up or making weird noises, sure I will. But I know you don’t have the option to do that so it must be hard to seeAnd, return them within that 14 day window...
The carrier and the shops give 14 day normal return window, Amazon gives 30 day return window. And, all of them give you 2-year warranty, which you don't have in your strange country. By the way, it's Apple that sells through Amazon.But I know you don’t have the option to do that so it must be hard to see
This issue has been experienced by a some users over the years. It's not a new complaint, it pops up every release cycle.
why do you insist on one sided discussions? Sure let's discuss issues, but important to that discussion for future buyers with critical thinking is frequency. Are those issues personal, as most here are, or are they a design choice? If its every device, well thats something to consider (like the air's one speaker), but if its some random literally one in a million thing.. well.. that probably wont heavily influence my buying decision.
Another thing absent from most of these discussions is some clue about manufacturing economics. Everyone likes to complain Apple devices are too expensive, but if Apple were to make them to the expectations of this forum the costs would likely be double. Apple's quality program is budgeted out to catch the large majority of issues, but it's a common business practice of all manufactured goods that a certain return rate due to defects can be expected. Want to reduce that rate? Build in an even larger tighter QC program. Either way, it's built into the cost. So with the handful, or even 100's let's say, of negative posts, out of 10 million sold, that likely represents the return rate, not a widespread issue.
To some of us that is important to know. But some of us buy devices to use them, not to find faults.
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Anyone noticed that photos from 17 Pro are not sharp enough? Almost blurry. Any other phone outcompetes it in terms of natural sharpness.
What is going on? Is that HDR? Maybe a system bug or weird processing?
I am in general not a fond of Apple’s warm, overly HDRed and artificially sharpened approach, but there are literally some issues with all camera modules, images are not sharp enough and blurrier than on old devices
What is going on? Is that HDR? Maybe a system bug or weird processing?
I am in general not a fond of Apple’s warm, overly HDRed and artificially sharpened approach, but there are literally some issues with all camera modules, images are not sharp enough and blurrier than on old devices
My 17 Pro also makes a clicking/hissing noise when the cameras are active. I assumed it was because it’s focusing.
Bigger thread about this here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/unimpressed-with-17-series-camera-quality.2467290/
haha, that was my thread
Didn’t want to revoke it, so asked people here as well. Smh youtubers seem not to notice the issue, but it is noticeable on photo samples on the web and even in videos.I waited long for 17 Pro only to realize this phone has such an issue. I mean I can understand HDR and sharpening but there is something on the deeper level going on, maybe a bug or lens issue (which is worse)
They cry when the same old ‘boring design’ comes out.
They cry when a new, experimental relatively radical design comes out.
New iPhone designs have always had some issue… Apple have always sorted it. Be it a service program… an extended refund policy… a good will gesture of a full refund well outside that window (sometimes after a year in my experience)…
They also learn in future iterations. The Butterfly Keyboard is the greatest case study…
They cry when a new, experimental relatively radical design comes out.
New iPhone designs have always had some issue… Apple have always sorted it. Be it a service program… an extended refund policy… a good will gesture of a full refund well outside that window (sometimes after a year in my experience)…
They also learn in future iterations. The Butterfly Keyboard is the greatest case study…
It took ENORMOUS amounts of public shaming and articles and videos to get them to recognize the Butterfly keyboard had to go.
Thank goodness for Joanna Stern