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This kinda fits with the abandon after 10 years formula, if architecture hasn't changed in 10 years, stagnation may be occurring, I wonder what 2017 will bring to the Memron based Core Duo. Hopefully it will make it to the next OS X iteration along with the MP 3,1 and 4,1 but I'm not sure any of them will.
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I very much doubt they will drop support for Merom.This kinda fits with the abandon after 10 years formula, if architecture hasn't changed in 10 years, stagnation may be occurring, I wonder what 2017 will bring to the Memron based Core Duo. Hopefully it will make it to the next OS X iteration along with the MP 3,1 and 4,1 but I'm not sure any of them will.
2008 MacBooks 3,1 lost OS X support in 2012 when Mountain Lion was released, just 4 years. The only reason being that Apple chose not to include 64 bit drivers for the GMA X3100 GPU. The CPU was a T8100, Penryn, which was released after Merom.
There's no clear formula to when a system loses OS X support. My theory is that Apple drops support a soon as possible to minimize tech support and to "persuade" users to upgrade.
There's no clear formula to when a system loses OS X support. My theory is that Apple drops support a soon as possible to minimize tech support and to "persuade" users to upgrade.
Great idea.As I have seen, EVGA prepares 8 pin GTX 1080 with water cooling. It might be interesting for 5.1 users
I think the X3100 was just SO low end that it couldn't drive the OS. It was pretty awful WHEN supported.
Components on the cMP are high end by their nature of being in a Pro machine.
I just don't think Apple will obsolete the cMP without a genuine reason of which I see none for the foreseeable future.
Genuine reason would be Apple thinks the graphics cards that shipped with all cMP are not good enough for the macOS (cough) GUI. Third party upgrades are not their problem. They don't need to support that stuff. So if the old GPU drivers are eliminated that would make OS upgrades difficult without hackintosh style tricks.
I think you'll find 1,1 obsolescence was due to EFI32 not 64.Well, that's exactly what they did to the MP1,1, so...
There's absolutely no (technical) reason a 64bit OS can't be booted from EFI32. Apple just didn't want it to.
My bad I think.... Look! GTX 1080 cards on sale in the UK £579 a pop! https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...s-graphics-card-08g-p4-6183-kr-gx-298-ea.html
GTX 970 cards down to £250 new already.
GTX 970 cards down to £250 new already.
What makes you say that? Cheaper, sure, but NVIDIA hasn't released their direct competitor at that price point yet. Kind of sad that the 1070 has the same power draw (150W) as the RX480 but has much higher performance.
I'd like to see a benchmark where the RX480 is faster than the 1070. Not that I don't believe you, I just haven't seen one yet
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I forget which version of OS X it is, but there was a FireWire requirement (Cheetah?) where machines pre-FireWire were excluded.
It's the only significant common hardware discrepancy that currently exists between currently supported models. Don't like the idea of it, but can see it happening.
Hopefully, like the FireWire requirement, it's simple to get round
No doubt Nvidia has been kicking ass power consumption wise for three years, but each generation has been performing less efficiently per clock.
A Fury X at 1050-1100 Mhz can match a 980 Ti running at 1250Mhz.
A 980 Ti overclocked to 1400-1450Mhz can almost match the 1080 running at 1750-1800Mhz.
Clock for clock the Fury cards offer the best power, and in OpenCL Radeon has generally held the crown. If AMD can bring down that power consumption with Vega then Nvidia will have to worry. They can't play the MHz race forever. Intel beat AMD by playing the MHz war but GPUs are not CPUs.
It's disappointing that current consumer Pascal chips don't have HBM2, or Async Compute for that matter. 1080Ti anyone?
I guess, a bit like Apple used to be with mobile devices, why bother to innovate at such a rapid pace when everyone else is so far behind?
Hopefully Polaris helps to make an impact on the Nvidia monopoly, to improve Nvidia's products, as well as their rather insane prices.
I guess, a bit like Apple used to be with mobile devices, why bother to innovate at such a rapid pace when everyone else is so far behind?
Hopefully Polaris helps to make an impact on the Nvidia monopoly, to improve Nvidia's products, as well as their rather insane prices.
It'll be interesting hearing why Apple has dropped support for 2009 cMP from macOS Sierra
Link? Where did you read this?
Edit: Found it. Now we'll find out if the 4,1 -> 5,1 firmware upgrade will be enough for Mac OS Sierra compatibility...
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It'll be interesting hearing why Apple has dropped support for 2009 cMP from macOS Sierra
Like I said in my post yesterday above, if they drop the graphics driver for those models then by default the system won't display graphics during or after a vanilla installation. So Apple will streamline the Nvidia drivers and block out systems that report 4,1 (probably even with the 5,1 upgrade). You would have to hack the installer to get around it and inject kexts if possible. Basically, hackintosh.
Nvidia drivers still have to be included in macOS. There were MacBook Pros and iMacs that had Nvidia GPUs.