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bokkow

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Yeah you're right, useless argument.

I'd just like to add that I (for one) don't need faster drives, at all. But that's not the point, I want to tinker with the machine, push the limit. And I guess that for most of the cMP owners this is true. I could care less for boottimes now, it's way past fast enough to not be annoying.

That being said, cant wait for faster drives with higher IOPS :D
 

mathemabeat

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Still, such a waste of time and excitement. From SSDReview:

'Now, let’s be real here, while it is great to see such high performance due to NVMe, consumers will never reach such high queue depths and utilize such high IOPS.'

And if you are expecting some kind of faster boot times...a standard SATA3 drive is still your best bang for buck in terms of real world performance and price. Anything above that just looks good in synthetic benchmarks or when people try to impress each other on a forum with how much money they spent. Here's a dose of reality...


You have to be one of the most negative people on this forum. Crapping in the OPs thread just because your narrow usage case doesn't have a use for higher performance disk speed. I guess all that should matter to any of us is boot, sleep and hibernate times. :rolleyes:
 
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You have to be one of the most negative people on this forum. Crapping in the OPs thread just because your narrow usage case doesn't have a use for higher performance disk speed. I guess all that should matter to any of us is boot, sleep and hibernate times. :rolleyes:

I'm actually one of the very few people here from the looks of it who would benefit from high disk throughput, but NVMe still isn't going to make much difference if you're using a computer as a creative workstation which is NOT a narrow usage case from the cMP or nMP. Just stick this in your mind permanently : I was the first person to test official SM951 in a cMP and the only person here to RAID0 them for hard testing. However, I'm not here to be part of an emotional support group. If you want to live a life without seeing any from of critical thinking and realism then you are completely free to ignore people and live in a bubble instead of having a childish defensive reaction every time you see someone present another side of the coin.
 
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neomorpheus

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I have to agree with @flowrider, his prices are fair, especially for the flashing service. I'm sure he puts a lot of hard work into his modifications and deserves what he gets for them. No one else is doing it at his level...it seems no one dare spend the time...so no mercy here.

If you want to DIY, pick up a 3gb R9 280X and experiment with it based on the numerous posts on this forum. I found one on craigslist just to play around with it. It's a solid card.

Thanks for the info and sorry, but some of his prices are just way to high.

True, he is the only one willing to do it, so he can charge whatever he wants, I just can't justify that expense.

I actually being looking into the R9 280X, just not sure if I'm keeping this cMP 4.1 or go all out and update CPU, ram and GPU. I already have a SSD in it.

Another thing that makes me wary is that the cheapest PSU replacement I found is over US$ 200, in case mine blows up.

OP, sorry for going OT.
 

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He must spend his offline time smearing his feces all over public restrooms.

+1, thought we had been freed of this.

Oddly there is no one else here arguing "You don't need a faster CPU/Hard Drive/GPU/RAM/Mouse, unless you are an old guy driving a sports car to get a girlfriend with big knockers so that your ex-wife knows that you don't need her anymore" or whatever that particular feces smearing rant was about.

Having PCIE boot drives has given me a few extras hours of free time per week. And no, in my hat collection there is nothing made of foil
 

pastrychef

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I was trying to find the original article that he quoted from SSD Review. The only one I found was:

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/samsung-sm951-m-2-pcie-ssd-review-256gb-nvme-performance/

It seems to contradict everything he's stated and gave this:

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Draeconis

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If you want to live a life without seeing any from of critical thinking and realism then you are completely free to ignore people and live in a bubble instead of having a childish defensive reaction every time you see someone present another side of the coin.

You might be right, but what you're expressing is an opinion, not a fact.

Going to the moon by your logic made absolutely no sense because there was no tangible benefit in going there. Personally I'm glad not everyone is happy with the status quo.
 

Lauwie

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Still, such a waste of time and excitement. From SSDReview:

'Now, let’s be real here, while it is great to see such high performance due to NVMe, consumers will never reach such high queue depths and utilize such high IOPS.'

And if you are expecting some kind of faster boot times...a standard SATA3 drive is still your best bang for buck in terms of real world performance and price. Anything above that just looks good in synthetic benchmarks or when people try to impress each other on a forum with how much money they spent. Here's a dose of reality...
Haters are always gonna hate ;)

There are people that need NVMe and there are those that want it.

I'm just so fascinated by computers and now that I'm studying computer science at the TU in Delft I'm just more psyched about computers and want to learn as much as I can about them ;)
 

flehman

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Haters are always gonna hate ;)

There are people that need NVMe and there are those that want it.

I'm just so fascinated by computers and now that I'm studying computer science at the TU in Delft I'm just more psyched about computers and want to learn as much as I can about them ;)

Don't worry, 99% of the folks here are excited about your project regardless of whether we may benefit from it or not. We love your enthusiasm, you have picked an interesting question for your project, and we want to know how it goes!
 

rawweb

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Haters are always gonna hate ;)

There are people that need NVMe and there are those that want it.

I'm just so fascinated by computers and now that I'm studying computer science at the TU in Delft I'm just more psyched about computers and want to learn as much as I can about them ;)

Love the concept here, keeping our cheese graters a few more years is paramount to my operations. I was also a little tickled when you mentioned thunderbolt ;)
 
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Haters are always gonna hate ;)

There are people that need NVMe and there are those that want it.

I'm just so fascinated by computers and now that I'm studying computer science at the TU in Delft I'm just more psyched about computers and want to learn as much as I can about them ;)

People should realise technologies such as NVMe and PCIE SSDs have trickled down from enterprise server needs. Right now, especially in a cMP, they make very little practical difference unless someone can prove with some hard evidence that they will benefit. We've heard stories on this board but those same story tellers can never show any videos or images of how it is helping them in the real world.

And by the time these technologies will make a day to day difference in the real world our cMP will be a distant memory. Hanging on to it and giving it impractical upgrades...and I'm going to make analogies again without pointing at anyone...is like an old man trying to impress young girls with a sports car and hair implants...or like some Hollywood plastic woman desperately trying to stay relevant. It's embarassing for the Mac community. Choose practical upgrades like the GPU, and then be personally productive with what you have until it's time to dump the machine for good.
 
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People should realise technologies such as NVMe and PCIE SSDs have trickled down from enterprise server needs. Right now, especially in a cMP, they make very little practical difference unless someone can prove with some hard evidence that they will benefit. We've heard stories on this board but those same story tellers can never show any videos or images of how it is helping them in the real world.

And by the time these technologies will make a day to day difference in the real world our cMP will be a distant memory. Hanging on to it and giving it impractical upgrades...and I'm going to make analogies again without pointing at anyone...is like an old man trying to impress young girls with a sports car and hair implants...or like some Hollywood plastic woman desperately trying to stay relevant. It's embarassing for the Mac community. Choose practical upgrades like the GPU, and then be personally productive with what you have until it's time to dump the machine for good.

Says the upgrade Nazi.

You should publish the list of Approved Updates so nobody else makes this horrible, life threatening mistake.

(BTW, is it OK if I drive my Sports car to Beverly Hills to get my hair plugs? Or should I take the bus, it's all so confusing.)
 

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I'm not interested in being another person for you to attack on a personal level. You can go in the block filter.

Says the guy who decided to declare war on everyone over the age of 40 who drives a sports car.

Please continue sitting on the couch telling us about all the stuff we can't (or shouldn't) do.

So the guy wants to do some exploring, how does that hurt you? Way alienate so many people for no reason at all?

You used to have some great posts, until you took on the "middle-aged men who like fast cars" coalition.

And again, how does a college kid writing an experimental EFI become so threatening that you need to insult and offend people?
 
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