Official "Waiting for Santa Rosa" thread.

[SHowHawk]

Santa Rosa and WWDC

My guess: 2 updates this year for laptops and 1 for mini & iMac.
At wwdc they introduce mbp with leds, mb with better gpu.
Later in the fall they introduce mbp with brd (Leopard will have brd support), mb with leds, iMac with leds (and maybe brd) and mini with better gpu (hopefully it will get dual display support & brd).

Toke, I agree generally with your points. I see two updates to the MBs and MBPs this year, one now with Santa Rosa bumps around WWDC, and then another in the Fall around the Leopard release. The one coming up will likely be more limited to the CPU and GPU upgrades afforded by Santa Rosa and the new stuff from nVidia & ATI. Perhaps, based on reports coming this week from AppleInsider and others, we may see LED-backlights in the MacBook Pros. In the Fall, Blu-Ray and Turbo Memory (a/k/a Robson caching). I still hope and believe that one of the notebook updates will come before WWDC rather than during it.

I don't think apple is going to talk that much about the iPhone at WWDC (it'll be released late june), because its called the World Wide Developers conference for a reason.

While the iPhone is not a "developer" oriented product, it is still a VERY BIG deal to Apple (heck they used most of this year's MacWorld to announce it, and it is arguably not a Mac (though it does run a version of Mac OS X).

I expect Steve's WWDC keynote to start off with discussion of sales gains, etc. Then he'll launch into talking up Leopard and show off all the "secret" new features. That will take up an hour and then the last half-hour will be about the iPhone launch and perhaps a couple of other new hardware announcements like an LED-lit MBP.

I also still look to the "New Music Tuesdays" of May 15 and 22 for possible releases of MBPs or MBs prior to WWDC. And I still think/hope it will be MBs now (with 1.8, 2.0 and/or 2.2 GHz C2Ds and Intel GMAX3100), and MBPs at WWDC (with 2.2 and 2.4 GHz C2Ds and nVidia Go8400). Then perhaps we'll see new iMacs (with Santa Rosa upgrades and the rumored new design... Multi-Touch screen anyone?), minis and mac Pros to follow in August and/or the fall.

That's my opinion... I could be wrong.

 

[kiang]

Santa Rosa has officially been released

 

[PimpDaddy]

My guess: 2 updates this year for laptops and 1 for mini & iMac.
At wwdc they introduce mbp with leds, mb with better gpu.
Later in the fall they introduce mbp with brd (Leopard will have brd support), mb with leds, iMac with leds (and maybe brd) and mini with better gpu (hopefully it will get dual display support & brd).

But still I'm asking will SR support eSata without additional chips?

n00b-ish question, but what is meant with "brd"??

/Another user who is waiting for the "new" MBP. Can't wait to get my first mac

 

[ready2switch]

BRD is Blue-Ray Disk, I believe.

Anyone know what time the Intel event in SF is scheduled for?

Also, is the amount of RAM supported variable by manufacturer, OS dependent, or set by Intel? I'd like to know exactly how expandable these babies will be.

 

[thegrandmaster]

I think we'll continue to see Apple updates that run on a schedule that matches that of Intel's processor line.

I can't see Apple half updating a MBP now, only to add a little more stuff later on. I think we'll see MBPs at the WWDC and other hardware upgrades (Mac mini, iMacs, MBs) at the Leopared thing in October.

4 Months is far too short an update cycle even for Apple imo and I think it would have many people who bought in June very angry, so I can't see that happening.

 

[juanster]

for some rreason i would nto be surprised if apple did so..

 

[diamond.g]

BRD is Blue-Ray Disk, I believe.

Anyone know what time the Intel event in SF is scheduled for?

Also, is the amount of RAM supported variable by manufacturer, OS dependent, or set by Intel? I'd like to know exactly how expandable these babies will be.

4GB is the max. Per here[PDF].

 

[munckee]

4GB is the max. Per here[PDF].

Wait, SR only supports up to 4GB of ram? I thought it was supposed to be able to support a lot more

 

[diamond.g]

Wait, SR only supports up to 4GB of ram? I thought it was supposed to be able to support a lot more

Well unless SR isn't PM965, it only supports 4GB.

EDIT: And from what I can gleen the X3100 really isn't all that great (the X1600 should be able to walk all over it) although it is better than the GMA950.

 

[Skrilla™]

I'll add my name to the list, I'm waiting to see what the new MBP will be. I may get it if I like it, if not I will go refurb.

 

[Diatribe]

Twice in 4 months after not upgrading for a year? That's one way to piss customers off.

 

[Manic Mouse]

MBP
2.2/2.4Ghz C2D
2Gb RAM
160Gb HDD
15.4" 1680*1050/17" 1900*1280
Go8600 512Mb

MB
1.8/2.0Ghz C2D
1Gb RAM
100Gb HDD
13.3" 1280*800
X3100/Go8400 256Mb

Come on Apple, please. DO IT!

 

[ready2switch]

4GB is the max. Per here[PDF].

Thanks for finding that. Quite a disappointment, if you ask me.

Edit: Just wanted to clarify, I'm only disappointed because from what I've read I thought SR would support a max of quite a bit more. 4GB is probably enough to last anyone for what will run on a SR machine. Guess I shouldn't get sucked into the hype.

 

[masse]

I guess it's just as well, I wouldn't put more than 4 gb in it anyway.

 

[tristan]

I read max 4 gigs also, but this HP Santa Rosa laptop has 8 gigs of RAM.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2127427,00.asp

 

[Eidorian]

I read max 4 gigs also, but this HP Santa Rosa laptop has 8 gigs of RAM.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2127427,00.asp

...the 8710p features a full-size keyboard, support for up to 8GB of memory...

¿Qué?​

 

[BrianMR]

I'm a little confused. People would be less pissed off with a 12 month wait for a refresh rather than getting one at 8 months than another in 4 months?

I'd rather see more frequent updates, not less frequent. That would make me more comfortable with the updates that will inevitably come after I buy. I think most people know that obsolence comes as you drive out of the parking lot and just want to have the latest technology at the time of purchase. Delaying technologies only exacerbates the issue.

 

[hauger]

Why would Apple wait? The rest of the laptop producers have announced upgrades to their lines effective today, meaning the MB and MBP as of today became obsolete compared to competing offerings. Waiting until a convenient time to upgrade the MB and MBP just makes the period of inferior offerings longer than necessary.

It really irks me....I want a MB (as a first apple product), and I need it no later than early June. I will not, however, buy a MB that's not been updated when theres comparably priced upgraded laptops available (albeit non-mac laptops).

 

[tristan]

¿Qué?​

I'm just quoting PC Magazine. I don't know what the story is. 4 gig RAM modules aren't sold yet, as far as I know, so nobody can test them out.

 

[Eidorian]

I'm just quoting PC Magazine. I don't know what the story is. 4 gig RAM modules aren't sold yet, as far as I know, so nobody can test them out.

I know.

 

[Diatribe]

The only thing I REALLY need is a bigger HD and hitachi doesn't seem to be shipping their 200GB drives yet

 

[thegrandmaster]

MBP
2.2/2.4Ghz C2D
2Gb RAM
160Gb HDD
15.4" 1680*1050/17" 1900*1280
Go8600 512Mb
Come on Apple, please. DO IT!

Now that would be one hell of a laptop!

i really hope we get one of those! 256 Of Graphics would be ok though...

 

[kajitox]

Guys, guys, seriously though...do you need 8GB of RAM? If you think you need that much, then you should be working on a desktop.

Am I the only one that is praying each day to come home and see that they've been updated?

 

[NintendoFan]

Guys, guys, seriously though...do you need 8GB of RAM? If you think you need that much, then you should be working on a desktop.

Am I the only one that is praying each day to come home and see that they've been updated?

Desktop, as in the iMac, which will most likely incorporate Santa Rosa.

 

[kingofkolt]

Now that would be one hell of a laptop!

i really hope we get one of those! 256 Of Graphics would be ok though...

I'm praying hard for 512MB of graphics... What's the likelihood of that?