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Official "Waiting for Santa Rosa" thread.

Pressure said:
Are you talking about Robson or Turbo Memory, as it have been dubbed?

As far as I know Tiger does not support it but Leopard should.
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I was talking about below:
ReadyDrive is the only element of Windows Vista that we have yet to test because it requires the use of either technology like Intel's Turbo Memory or Hybrid Hard Drives. ReadyDrive uses half of Intel's Turbo Memory (512MB) as a cache for disk I/O, much as a CPU's L2 cache works to cache frequently used data from main memory. With frequently used data stored in Intel's flash memory, the main hard drive can power down thus saving power, and performance could be improved given the relatively low latency access of flash memory.
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tristan said:
FYI As far as I can tell, Anand is the first one to come out and say that Santa Rosa is a disappointment. Apple better have some more tricks up its sleeve.
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I skimmed through the AnandTech article and it basically says they couldn't do a fair comparison with the equipment they had, so they didn't really know much.

AnandTech said:
For the first Centrino platform with no major CPU enhancements, we have to look to the platform for the real attraction to Santa Rosa.
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That's a great big DUH.

As someone said once before, this is an evolution in technology, not a revolution. (I'd credit this, but I don't remember who posted it).
 
We're all quoting the same paragraph in the same article! I'll just post it here:

Intel's Centrino platform has been the sum of a series of evolutionary steps, each building on a very solid foundation originally introduced in 2003. Each step along the way brought us new technologies, better performance, and longer battery life. Unfortunately, with such high expectations for constant improvements in performance and power efficiency, it's not too difficult to feel let down by Santa Rosa; there's simply no tangible performance improvement for the vast majority of applications. For the first Centrino platform with no major CPU enhancements, we have to look to the platform for the real attraction to Santa Rosa.
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It's typical Anand - his writing is about two edits away from being good, but his analysis and conclusions are always interesting and largely accurate.
 
I've been seeing a lot of rumors popping up saying we can expect Santa Rosa MacBook Pros as early as 'next week.'

Part of me doubts that so much, simply because WWDC is about 4 short weeks away, I don't see Apple Updating something before hand that they could update during the keynote.

The MacBook Pro just seems like a likely candidate to see renditions during WWDC.
 
That would work out great, meaning since we're leaving for Vacation 1 day prior to the WWDC keynote, and we want to purchase a MacBook Pro before then.
 
MacRumors quotes AppleInsider - NO Santa Rosa in MacBooks

While I am pleased that reports today from AppleInsider and ThinkSecret (and echoed here at MacRumors https://www.macrumors.com/2007/05/11/macbook-macbook-pro-and-ultra-portable-updates/) seem to back up my earlier "prediction" of an announcement of updated MacBooks and/or MacBook Pros prior to WWDC and "as early as" this coming Tuesday, I am a bit concerned about what AppleInsider is saying: that the MacBooks will NOT benefit from Santa Rosa improvements but MacBook Pros will.

I really, really hope that AI's source is mistaken (or simply read a spec sheet that lists CPUs running at just 1.8 and 2.0GHz and assumed that meant no improvements, forgetting all about the improved graphics from GMA X3100).

I understand not putting LED backlights or Robson flash caching in this update to the consumer MacBooks... but no update to the woeful Intel GMA950 graphics would be... well, dissappointing in the least. While :apple: certainly ought to reserve the best gee-whiz features for use in the MBP first, applying Santa Rosa to the MBs to correct a glaring (at least to anyone who has any casual interest in decent game playing) inadequacy of the consumer MacBook is just short of foolish IMHO.
 
ChexBoss32890 said:
Part of me doubts that so much, simply because WWDC is about 4 short weeks away, I don't see Apple Updating something before hand that they could update during the keynote.

The MacBook Pro just seems like a likely candidate to see renditions during WWDC.
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I beg to differ. The sooner the MacBook Pro is updated, the more likely people are going to buy it not only for the upcoming school year but also for senior gifts; I am positive that computer sales for most companies hit a peak in May/June, and to pass up a good season because Dell, HP and Sony all have more recent technology isn't good business.

This is not to mention that at WWDC they have to introduce Leopard with all the "secret features," then they will probably touch on the iPhone and iLife. Then they try to fit it an announcement about an upgrade for the MBP? No, that would detract from the power of Leopard...they might mention it, but I would bet that it would be better to mention it after the release.

I'm just going to take a stab in the dark and say next Tuesday. (Perhaps just because I can hardly wait.)
 
kajitox said:
I beg to differ. The sooner the MacBook Pro is updated, the more likely people are going to buy it not only for the upcoming school year but also for senior gifts; I am positive that computer sales for most companies hit a peak in May/June, and to pass up a good season because Dell, HP and Sony all have more recent technology isn't good business....
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Point well taken. After reading some of the rumors from various sites abroad, I've come to the understanding that many retailers, both Apple and others, are running low on MacBook and/or MacBook Pro supplies.

That in itself screams the fact that we're about to see SOMETHING being updated.
 
ChexBoss32890 said:
Point well taken. After reading some of the rumors from various sites abroad, I've come to the understanding that many retailers, both Apple and others, are running low on MacBook and/or MacBook Pro supplies.

That in itself screams the fact that we're about to see SOMETHING being updated.
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I totally agree; that makes me super anxious. ;)
 
yetieater said:
Can we ready our wallets for next Tuesday? :D
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I wish I could be considered a credible source, but I'll just say that I sure am readying my wallet. I'm basically making a list of computer paraphernalia I'm going to get that day (if it comes out).
 
I would like to say I have a good feeling about next tuesday... but i think I have been jaded from all the "next tuesday" stuff from the huge ol' "Waiting for Merom MacBook Pro's" :p

But... why not?

Silent update this tuesday! OMFG!!
 
been lurking here for several months but my excitement is now too much. I never thought my first mac buying experience would take soo long! I really hope the mac book is going to get SR next week. I really dont want to buy MBP just to get a decent graphics chipset.

btw Anyone know if SR will support OpenGL better than the current intel chipset?
 
x2600 vs 8600M

I hope Apple will use the X2600! if its mature enough, which it doesn't seem to be yet. The inquirer couldnt get any results at all with the x2600, no matter what they tried (http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39540)
So if apple decides to use it, we will probably see it at WWDC if we are lucky.

It would also make sense if they used a 8600M since Intel is working close with Apple and no doubt wants AMD dead in all of its shapes and forms.
Apple also already uses the nvidia geforce 7300 in the macpro and 24inch Imac so it wouldnt be the first time the go with nvidia.

But if the GPU isn't DX10 when they update, I'm not going to buy a MBP. Because it would mean that the update would only be a display upgrade, everything else is very minor.
 
whitehexagon said:
Intel graphics chips have notoriously bad support for openGL. I do some OpenGL development and ideally would like to use my first ever mac for some testing.
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Does OGL2.0/2.1 remove the software abstraction layer? I remember OGL have the tendency of falling back into software rendering without being told to when a feature is not supported in hardware.
 
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