well when I open a banking app on my phone, it recognises my face and logs me straight in. When I open the same app on my iPad it stops and prompts for my finger print and I have to take an action to log in. It’s definitely not MUCH of an action but it’s an extra layer of friction that doesn’t exist with faceId.
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well when I open a banking app on my phone, it recognises my face and logs me straight in. When I open the same app on my iPad it stops and prompts for my finger print and I have to take an action to log in. It’s definitely not MUCH of an action but it’s an extra layer of friction that doesn’t exist with faceId.
This is true, but I didn’t realise until I used faceID that the swipe up isn’t actually a step - it’s a natural action as, if you’re unlocking your phone, you’re going to be touching the screen. I can understand why touchID users often insist that there’s an extra step involved with FaceID.
As I said though it’s silly arguing over certain usages where it’s a fraction of a second. I can open my iPhone a fraction of a second quicker than my mate with his X but it’s absolutely minimal. Both are very effective and although TouchID is no longer favoured going forward for new devices, it’s still a good feature. Fingerprint recognition technology is not dead, it’s just no favoured by Apple.
I found Touch ID slightly faster to unlock the phone but I found Face ID faster in apps. Anyone who thinks either is more of a privacy violation than the other is being daft - it's biometric data collected and stored in the exact same way. If you don't trust one, you shouldn't trust the other.
I prefer my X over the 8/7/6 however the 8 is far from obsolete. I've yet to find an app that really pushes the X hardware, nevermind the XS. The 8 will be absolutely fine. It does look a bit older, but that's just fashion - if you prefer Touch ID and don't mind the style (or prefer it!) then it's a brilliant device and a good buy.
I prefer my X over the 8/7/6 however the 8 is far from obsolete. I've yet to find an app that really pushes the X hardware, nevermind the XS. The 8 will be absolutely fine. It does look a bit older, but that's just fashion - if you prefer Touch ID and don't mind the style (or prefer it!) then it's a brilliant device and a good buy.
I share the same view and I use both. TouchID gives a more connected feeling when using using it compared to Faceid which feels a bit loose at times i.e. unlocking the phone when you dont want to
I too have dry fingers most times
I feel a bit like this. With Touch ID, I could have my phone unlocked before it got anywhere near my face, but I like that with Face ID it’ll unlock apps a little more easily. Sometimes, though, depending on whether I need to login with a different ID on something, I’ll have to turn my phone away from my face to let me log in manually because Face ID does it too quickly.
I like things about both for the phone.
I have not liked the Face ID on my iPP quite as much. It seems like it’s always at the wrong angle for things to open quickly when it’s attached to the keyboard folio. I have to pick it up and tilt it, whereas I could just touch with my finger.
I think both methods have their strengths and weaknesses for sure.
I hate the x line. I wish they would have continued updating the guts of the 8/8+. The Xr is a terrible compromise, smaller video area than the 8+, longer stretch than the 8. Plus a poor camera and less pixels than the 8+.
It feels a lot more like users of the older method being desperate to pick fault with Face ID tbh. Touch ID is a great system no doubt, we’ve all used it, nobody here is unaware of how well it works in most situations - but its not heresy to say that Face ID is better in a lot of ways - it’s kind of what you’d expect from the newer replacement.
Some people are naturally going to prefer Touch ID, the same way some people prefer bezels, or a physical home button, or skeuomorphic design in iOS, but those are all just preferences. To state objectively that Touch ID is universally better or universally faster (as some in this thread have tried to do) is demonstrably false.
Touch ID does have issues with moisture and other contaminants/changes on the skin’s surface, I never found it a big problem (especially compared to the alternative of having to enter a pin the whole time) but it was there. Just this morning my wife was struggling to remember the password for a banking app after resorting to resetting Touch ID on her 8, because it had gotten unreliable (unfortunately whenever you reprogram Touch or Face ID you need to re-authenticate in any apps that rely on it). In my experience with the XR so far, all of that is gone with Face ID.
my mum is in her 70s and touchid on her SE is unusable now because as you age your fingerprints fade. She Can register a fingerprint and in a few days it can no longer unlock with that fingerprint.
faceId wouldn’t have the same problem.
lol
How is Face ID faster? Please explain. That is just a load of BS.
I had iPhone XS for a week and the Face ID was crap. It was slow as hell. Much, much slower than Touch ID. Absolutely no comparison.
Not to mention Touch ID was far more practical because anytime I reach for my iPhone 8, it’s already unlocked by the time I see the screen. It doesn’t rely on pointing it at the right angle before it can be unlocked. I can (and do) do it from my pocket.
In practice, Touch ID is much faster. Side by side, it’s also faster than Face ID. This is a proven fact. There are hundreds of YouTube videos comparing the two side by side and Touch ID always wins.
Case closed.
No idea why you would unlock your phone in your pocket but ok.
Face ID is faster, you just have to swipe up “before” you look at the screen.
Swipe up instead of tapping on Touch ID, no extra step necessary.
It would explain why you were finding Face ID both slow and cumbersome If you were kept trying to “point it at the right angle”.
Nice try and nice excuse.
Right angle meant pointing at my face, which you are forced to do before it can unlocked.
Touch ID has one step: you touch the button lol. That’s it.
Face ID has two steps. You have to point and you have to swipe.
Why are you and others even debating this fact?
I’m guessing you only used Touch ID gen one, since you seem to think that Face ID is faster. Touch ID on my iPhone 8 is instant. The split second it takes to touch the button, the phone is unlocked as quickly as it was touched.
And you completely missed the point about unlocking the phone in my pocket. The point was that when I reach for my phone (wherever it may be, even my pocket), it’s already FULLY unlocked by the time I look at the screen. You simply get used to grabbing it a certain way such that it’s unlocked immediately.
Again, you’re arguing with facts. If you like Face ID, great, more power to you. But please stop spreading misinformation about Touch ID being slower than Face ID. That’s completely false.
Even everythingapplepro tested both many times side by side and every single time Touch ID outperformed Face ID.
/micdrop
I had the 6s on iOS 9, now I’m using the Xʀ. Touch ID is, in my opinion, slightly faster than Face ID, but the difference is negligible. I previously thought Touch ID was a little faster than what it turned out to be when compared to Face ID.
I will never understand why some people think that the second a new iPhone is released, all the previous ones are absolute crap, rubbish, or completely obsolete.
My 6s was - still is - great. Would I have a problem if I returned to it? Absolutely not. Great device. In the end, they both do the same things, and both have more or less the same performance whilst doing those things.
I use a 9.7 iPad Pro, on iOS 9. Its performance while playing the really few games I play - to name an activity that suffers if the device is underpowered - is excellent. I see no difference in performance if compared to my Xʀ. No hiccups, highest settings, works amazingly well. (I know, A9X against A9, I still think my point stands).
You’d have to go way back to convince me that an old device is “pretty terrible” to use today as my main device. Perhaps I’d draw the line on the 32-bit. I use a 5c on iOS 9 as a secondary phone, and it works decently, but if compared to my 6s on iOS 9 or the Xʀ I’m now using, it’s a turtle. Battery life is mediocre at best, but suits my needs.
I wouldn’t be totally satisfied if I used that one as my main device. Nearly anything newer would be great, as long as it ran initial versions of iOS.
I will never understand why some people think that the second a new iPhone is released, all the previous ones are absolute crap, rubbish, or completely obsolete.
My 6s was - still is - great. Would I have a problem if I returned to it? Absolutely not. Great device. In the end, they both do the same things, and both have more or less the same performance whilst doing those things.
I use a 9.7 iPad Pro, on iOS 9. Its performance while playing the really few games I play - to name an activity that suffers if the device is underpowered - is excellent. I see no difference in performance if compared to my Xʀ. No hiccups, highest settings, works amazingly well. (I know, A9X against A9, I still think my point stands).
You’d have to go way back to convince me that an old device is “pretty terrible” to use today as my main device. Perhaps I’d draw the line on the 32-bit. I use a 5c on iOS 9 as a secondary phone, and it works decently, but if compared to my 6s on iOS 9 or the Xʀ I’m now using, it’s a turtle. Battery life is mediocre at best, but suits my needs.
I wouldn’t be totally satisfied if I used that one as my main device. Nearly anything newer would be great, as long as it ran initial versions of iOS.
lol!
Fingerprints never “fade”. That’s a myth. You’ve been lied to.
Touch ID can fail if the phone is old. The sensor can stop working entirely or work intermittently. Same thing can and does happen to Face ID.
Shame on you for using your grandma’s defective phone or her inability to properly place her finger in the right spot as an excuse to troll Touch ID.
Chances are your grandma’s aging face would cause more issues with Face ID recognition than it would with a properly working Touch ID sensor.
Many people grow up with an inferiority complex. Forking our large amounts of money on the latest tech is their way of making up for it.
So, in their mind, newer MUST be better since they paid a lot of money for it. Even though newer is not always better, they have to convince themselves that it is.
And we’re talking about phones that are literally 1-2 years apart. Nobody is comparing a 10 year old iPhone to the current one lol
These people also don’t understand the idea behind preference. Just because something is new, it doesn’t mean that it’s preferred or that the person can’t afford it.
I went from the iPhone 8 to X to XS and back to 8. Clearly, money was not the issue, since I ended up losing a crap ton of it by giving the newer models a go for several months each.
I don’t play games on my smartphone because I have a life. In that regard, the newer iPhones are better because they are more powerful.
However, in practice, and for everyday tasks, I find the maneuverability of my iPhone 8 is superior to the newer models. Everything from unlocking to navigating between screens is significantly faster on my 8 than it was on the X and XS. This may be because the screen on the 8 is smaller or because LCD vs OLED somehow needs less processing - I really don’t know why, I’m just guessing. But my iPhone 8 definitely feels snappier than either of the newer iPhones.
It’s not a try or an excuse.
All you have to do is swipe before you look at the screen, just like you place your finger on Touch ID before you look at the screen.
Same principle with your “one action”.
You can’t claim that it’s misinformation if you haven’t tried it.
If your fumbling about trying to get the “right angle” , it would explain why you feel the way you do about Face ID. It’s user error.
5s,6,6s,7,8plus.
Didn’t miss any point.
Who unlocks their phone in their pocket?
It’s strange. I usually lock mine before I put it in my pocket.
I love the way these posts always end up as a Touch ID v Face ID discussion.
Both are great, both work well.
Can't we all just move on.
Both are great, both work well.
Can't we all just move on.
Nice try attempting to take my statement out of context and with the “right angle”. Yes, you have to point the phone at your face. Otherwise it won’t unlock.
I can unlock my iPhone 8 from far away when it’s sitting on a table at any angle. You cannot do that with Face ID. Again, /micdrop
Also, you’re contradicting yourself.
You specifically called out two actions to get the XS unlocked. Yet here you are saying that it’s one action.
What part of one action don’t you understand? - Swipe and point vs touch lol
Even then, side by side, Touch ID is quicker. Proven over and over again.
Now you’re just arguing for the sake of arguing. Thousands of people unlock iPhones with Touch ID before they pull them out of their jacket, for example. I get the feeling that you’re new to the iPhone space and that you never actually used Touch ID.
Kind of off topic, but not really. I couldn't figure out why I always had to touch the screen of my XS Max, to wake it before I could then swipe up after unlock. I realized that I had turned off my raise to wake feature at some point , and was then having to tap the screen to wake, then swipe up. It resulted in an extra step for me. I went and turned off "require attention for FACE ID" because sometimes I am otherwise distracted and cannot look directly at the phone just yet. I then turned back on raise to wake, so now when I pick up my phone, I can swipe up whenever. Much faster. Thanks for indirectly jogging my memory.
Face ID is faster and more convenient when responding to lock screen notifications. Look, tap, done.
Face ID is MUCH faster and far more convenient for in-app authentication - literally effortless.
The above are simply facts, incontrovertible.
Face ID is also immune to moisture/grease/other common fingertip gremlins. It works more often, more of the time, that’s my direct experience and seems common to others.
Touch ID may be fractionally faster in some circumstances when you’re unlocking the phone from cold, but it’s a marginal gain and pales into insignificance when all of the above is taken into account. Face ID is the better, and yes faster system overall, and I say that as someone who used and still uses and likes Touch ID in addition to Face ID.
Kind of off topic, but not really. I couldn't figure out why I always had to touch the screen of my XS Max, to wake it before I could then swipe up after unlock. I realized that I had turned off my raise to wake feature at some point , and was then having to tap the screen to wake, then swipe up. It resulted in an extra step for me. I went and turned off "require attention for FACE ID" because sometimes I am otherwise distracted and cannot look directly at the phone just yet. I then turned back on raise to wake, so now when I pick up my phone, I can swipe up whenever. Much faster. Thanks for indirectly jogging my memory.
Your very welcome.
It feels like a mix of both to be honest. There’s people passionate for both methods and I think they all need to take a step back and realise it’s rather sad trying to convince everybody one is better than the other. If you are using one of the other you’re not really going to care.
I want to add for the sake of argument to the recent discussion, that I am one of the people who unlocks my iPhone as I draw it out of my pocket. I put my iPhone in upside down and the button is easy to press as I take it out of my pocket which means the phone is unlocked by the time I look at it. This is down to years of owning an iPhone with TouchID I can unlock it faster than I would ever really need to. That’s if fractions of a second count, which they don’t, I just wanted to explain as some of you can’t believe people unlock phones from their pockets.
Right, the iPhone 8 was simply the _last_ device ever to offer touch ID, and in that respect alone for that phone, it’s still a huge advantage, given I don’t believe face ID has been fully adopted yet, (Unless obviously someone upgrades to one of the newer iPhones.) The problem is, Apples marketing doesn’t target older phones at all, which they don’t want consumers to purchase the iPhone 8, they want them to purchase the iPhone XS/XR, but for those who are savvy enough, the iPhone 8 will be discounted further in two weeks, which would make it a steal for the price it’s offering with the A11 Bionic/wireless charging/True Tone/dual speakers/water resistance, list goes on.
Nice try.
People spend way more time unlocking their phones than they do authenticating things once inside.
So with that in mind, you're saving a lot more time using Touch ID than you do using Face ID. And no, Touch ID is not just "fractionally" faster. It's at least twice as fast in most side-by-side tests. Pair that with the fact that you can unlock with Touch ID from anywhere (without having to point the phone directly at your face), and you quickly realize that, in practice, Touch ID is actually multiple times faster than Face ID.
FACTS.
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No, you cannot possibly unlock your iPhone as you are taking it out of your pocket lol. According to some people in this thread, why would you do something so silly? LMAO
Because heaven forbid that an older iteration of the iPhone does something better and faster than the newer one.
The most ironic part about this thread is its title: "Oh iPhone 8 how I’ve missed you".
If you notice, the OP missed the iPhone 8 lol. And he gave reasons why. Yet, iPhone X and XS users felt the need to crap all over this thread by quickly dismissing the 8 (along with Touch ID). Reminds me of the people who continuously feel the need to bash iPhone SE's in every SE-related thread. What's wrong with them?
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