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Knowing this is kind of horrifying.

Many of our over the counter, and prescription drugs are made in India! Aleve, Zyrtec, Tylenol, etc, etc...

Why make them in India? Ask those corporations. I think they should find another country to press their pills. It's already known that many prescription drug manufacturers don't clean the machines well between batches of unrelated pharmaceuticals. (Always amazed I can spell that word without using spell check)
 
It boggles the mind that Apple, a company which is the 6th largest company by revenue IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, only beaten by Walmart, Amazon, and 3 petrochemical companies refuses to build manufacturing plants in areas of the USA in need to regeneration and pay people a living wage. If anyone can afford to Apple can.
 
I remember listening to the Howard Stern show a number of years ago when Robin Quivers said she went on vacation to India. She said on the way from the airport to her hotel that what she saw and what she smelled disgusted her so much that she had the driver turn around and go back to the airport and she left without ever staying.
I feel that way traveling to New York City that wasn't built with garbage collection in mind– trash and rotting food waste is just thrown on the sidewalk. They don't even use dumpsters or trash bins. For a high class city it really stinks. It is nice living in places with decent garbage and sanitary standards.
 
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They'll get there.

But from the perspective of the workers it's probably better if everyone involved – whether in India, China or elsewhere on Earth – met in the middle at a more reasonable pace of manufacturing.
 
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My 13 mini will be my last iPhone, since they are too expensive from now on, apart from too big. Apple wants too much profit from me. I'm not buying it. Maybe if there comes along a mini-like iPhone again, I'll change my mind.
May be it's news to you, but Apple's margins have always been the wonder of Wall Street. I believe a recent story here reported that even though its worldwide market share for smartphones is much lower, Apple makes 85% of the profit in that market (and Samsung almost all of the rest).
 
So the challenging part is Apple wants India to expedite the training process so workers there would build stuff as good as what China does today but takes shorter time to reach that level? Idk. India isn’t quite the same democracy as western world either, and there’s a huge portion of Indian population that lives in extremely poor conditions, lower literacy level as well. It’s tough.
 
except how much time does india need, india and china had the same economic mfr capacity in the a early 80's.

Yes but the 80's were forty years ago. American companies have invested almost entirely all manufacturing training, experience, and knowledge to China for the past forty years. India hasn't gotten that. This is a start. I'd expect perhaps a decade. Maybe two worst case. Just an educated a guess.
 
It boggles the mind that Apple, a company which is the 6th largest company by revenue IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, only beaten by Walmart, Amazon, and 3 petrochemical companies refuses to build manufacturing plants in areas of the USA in need to regeneration and pay people a living wage. If anyone can afford to Apple can.
Who's they gonna staff those plants with? Pink-haired smoothie-slurping millennials with a degree in some insane BS?

We don't have enough youth with necessary skills nor desire to work in manufacturing. This problem will require much more time/money to fix.
 
It boggles the mind that Apple, a company which is the 6th largest company by revenue IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, only beaten by Walmart, Amazon, and 3 petrochemical companies refuses to build manufacturing plants in areas of the USA in need to regeneration and pay people a living wage. If anyone can afford to Apple can.

And no one would want to pay th price Apple would have to charge to do that. Once iPhones can be assembled almost 100%, from chip to box, via automated assembly we may see more US manufacturing as labor costs would be a tiny fraction of the cost of goods.
 
Yes but the 80's were forty years ago. American companies have invested almost entirely all manufacturing training, experience, and knowledge to China for the past forty years. India hasn't gotten that. This is a start. I'd expect perhaps a decade. Maybe two worst case. Just an educated a guess.
cause indian gov't won't let it, their market is terribly protective, red tape and corruption goes in the same sentence with india for the past 40 years.

as for how long? sure 10-20 years, but should apple bother with that nonsense? apple start making iphone in china as soon as it launched, it sure as hell didn't take china 10-20 years to get it right.
 
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vroom vroom... boom

This is why you never see a Tata Nano driving in the US. Apple is in for bigger problems, I'm afraid.
 
I remember listening to the Howard Stern show a number of years ago when Robin Quivers said she went on vacation to India. She said on the way from the airport to her hotel that what she saw and what she smelled disgusted her so much that she had the driver turn around and go back to the airport and she left without ever staying.

A friend of mine years ago (00's) was invited to a worldwide conference in India, and described what it was like where she was. The airport experience was the first of the horrors.

She described the feeling of coming from the deep north to the Caribbean for a vacation, and the wave of hot air that sweeps through the cabin, to be similar to the feeling of when the door opened at the airport in India, and the coughing/gagging sounds of fellow passengers as it swept over them. On her trip, the smell started a little before they landed, and the wave of stench swept through the cabin quickly as they opened the door. The ride to the hotel was interesting, as they passed people living in the squalor and the garbage everywhere. The dingy sky, the overwhelming pollution. The hordes of people that were swarming public transportation, and cars apparently of interest.

My sister was sent to one of their tech centers for 2 weeks of meetings with their programmers and described nearly the same experience around the airport, but was shocked that as they neared the hotel she was staying at in the 'tech center area', the streets cleared out, and she said it looked like almost any technological area in the US. Modern buildings. Except there were gates at the periphery which she said was a little strange, but the dichotomy was incredibly striking. There were clean restaurants and the whole area, aside from the wafted smells from outside the fences, was not unlike being home. Apparently many of the people that she was working with then were spread out around the area, with some living outside the fences. The local government appeared to be working hard to keep the areas 'safe'. She said that after she got back, they offered her a position at their co-owned programming center. She quickly refused, and ended up quitting after getting some pressure to accept.

India is a great country. I'd like to visit at some point. It's a shame they aren't handling things better, but hopefully they will be brought into this 'future' we live in.
 
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It boggles the mind that Apple, a company which is the 6th largest company by revenue IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, only beaten by Walmart, Amazon, and 3 petrochemical companies refuses to build manufacturing plants in areas of the USA in need to regeneration and pay people a living wage. If anyone can afford to Apple can.
1990s. NAFTA. GATT. Those warning, screaming from the hilltops that this would happen were laughed at, demonized. As usual. Just like what happened in the late 1950s. So here we are. And they continue to laugh at and demonize those who point out what must inevitably happen from this point. So here we go, the last drop to the bottom of the pit. Not salvageable any more.
 
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