OS X 10.10 codenamed Syrah (merged)

[MattInOz]

I would add the following to Sound214's list.

Timemachine.
- reliable support for non-apple network drives.
- Incremental first back up yes I understand I won't be full backed up till it's run completely but still if it had some smarts about backing up so it gets to a working state faster over wifi.
- Incremental consistency check, why does it need a full new backup to do a consistency check couldn't do small chunks then check them.
-In summary make Timemachine work for accounts in the 10's to 100Gb range not just 0 to 10 range.

Mail
- Long shot but I'd like the folders that are "on my mac" to be anywhere on my mac better still anywhere on my network, not just tucked away in the library folder.
- That way I can drag a folder in to the mail side bar and file mail direct to disk or the server in one drag and drop hit. Even use mail rules to sort and file regular emails without needing to do it myself. Even access attached in any app by navigating to the folder.

Finder reboot
- I think the whole user workflow of Finder needs to be modernised.
- Not just the file system and not like iOS, something that really embraces how we now user computers compared to even 5 years ago, it's served as well but needs to be thought about.
- Where before we had a single drive attached, a file store server or usb drive. Now we have a couple of general cloud stores on that, a couple of special cloud stores for music, photos file sharing outside the office. It's all just been mashed in to Finder or the Dock or the menu bar without a lot of rhythm or reason.

- I think they could make Finders sidebar the place for this, have apps that can plug in and present status info and settings access as well as content from one place.
- They could go much further still but centralising and having and API would open up the development options to test that.

 

[joecool99]

OSX 10.10 wish list 2014

- 10bit color support
- cut & paste files
- smart que when copy multiple files at once!
- TRIM native on all brands SSD that support it
- Siri
- USB local sync with iOS devices
- fix airdrop
- surprise us Apple

 

[satcomer]

The rigging of Dashboard to run iOS apps.

 

[Sound214]

- cut & paste files

You do know you can cut and paste files, right? Just hold option while you press cmd + v.

 

[brendu]

I just want it to work properly. I want to be able to send emails when I press send, and receive emails on a daily basis. I'd like an OS that doesn't require an SSD to function, and I wouldn't mind if it was a little lighter, everything about it just feels not-quite-right, even with an SSD.

are you using the mac mail app? I haven't had those issues on my 2009 mbp with SSD or my 2009 Mac mini with HDD. everything works fine for me but I use very few non apple apps. Pixelmater and Firefox are the only non apple apps I regularly use and neither have given me problems.

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The rigging of Dashboard to run iOS apps.

They could run ios apps in an emulator and on newer apps it would prob run fine but I doubt they ever will..

 

[Sky Blue]

There's a sticky thread on this here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1649521/

 

[tkermit]

I'd like to see 0 new features and a lot of bug fixing and improvements to performance.

Couldn't agree more. Bug fixes. Lots of them. That's all I want.

 

[Sound214]

Couldn't agree more. Bug fixes. Lots of them. That's all I want.

I'd like 10.11 to be all about squashing bugs; I believe it's almost impossible to make a UI overhaul without creating some bugs.

 

[joecool99]

You do know you can cut and paste files, right? Just hold option while you press cmd + v.

I did not, thanks!

 

[wrldwzrd89]

You do know you can cut and paste files, right? Just hold option while you press cmd + v.

This is news to me as well! Thanks for that tip.

Back on the topic of 10.10... given the recent rumors of Apple pulling engineers away from iOS 8 to work on this, my guess is that Apple's got something big to show off at WWDC. Something none of us are expecting - not even me.

 

[danielsutton]

I'd like to see improved filesystem.

Agreed! I would like to see a NEW filesystem, with HFS+ going the way of the Dodo. Let's call this new filesystem iFS. iFS will be the filsystem for both OS X and iOS devices, though on iOS devices, as it is now, the filesystem will not be accessible by users. The full "power user" experience will be available on OS X.

 

[Sound214]

Agreed! I would like to see a NEW filesystem, with HFS+ going the way of the Dodo. Let's call this new filesystem iFS. iFS will be the filsystem for both OS X and iOS devices, though on iOS devices, as it is now, the filesystem will not be accessible by users. The full "power user" experience will be available on OS X.

It's bound to happen, but it'll probably be ZFS. About that, does anyone know what'll happen when they introduce a new file system? Would you have to format every hard drive? That would seem like a very non-Apple thing to do.

 

[KoolAid-Drink]

They may support on-the-fly conversion from HFS+ to the new format (iFS/ZFS), much similar to what Windows 98 did with FAT to FAT32. There was a conversion wizard that converted the FAT partition to FAT32 on the fly, with only a quick restart or two. No data was lost in the process.

It's bound to happen, but it'll probably be ZFS. About that, does anyone know what'll happen when they introduce a new file system? Would you have to format every hard drive? That would seem like a very non-Apple thing to do.

 

[MikhailT]

It's bound to happen, but it'll probably be ZFS. About that, does anyone know what'll happen when they introduce a new file system? Would you have to format every hard drive? That would seem like a very non-Apple thing to do.

Unless Oracle changed something recently, Apple is never ever going to use ZFS because of the license placed on ZFS by Oracle.

They removed all traces of ZFS in OS X and killed the project after Oracle bought Sun.

If anything, Apple might go with BtrFS.

 

[danielsutton]

It's bound to happen, but it'll probably be ZFS. About that, does anyone know what'll happen when they introduce a new file system? Would you have to format every hard drive? That would seem like a very non-Apple thing to do.

I don't think it will be that complicated. Since HFS+ is an Apple filesystem, they will build full read and write support into OSX, so it will be a seamless experience to connect an HFS+ drive to the system. The new OS will have to be installed on a volume with the new filesystem, however.

 

[Sound214]

I don't think it will be that complicated. Since HFS+ is an Apple filesystem, they will build full read and write support into OSX, so it will be a seamless experience to connect an HFS+ drive to the system. The new OS will have to be installed on a volume with the new filesystem, however.

Alright! Maybe in 10.11? I doubt there's enough time to include it in 10.10.

We should write an extensive checklist of items that Apple needs to do/change/include in OS X in the coming years. Not exactly what we would like them to do, but what they actually need to do. A new file system is one example.

 

[ultraspiracle]

I'm hoping they'll name it OS X San Andreas...

Would probably be appropriate.

 

[danielsutton]

i'm hoping they'll name it os x san andreas...

Would probably be appropriate.

lol

 

[5aga]

hoping safari finally gains tabs on top.

 

[Sky Blue]

Only about 12 days until WWDC, hyped to see what it looks like!

we haven't heard a lot about rumored new features yet.

 

[Jambalaya]

Will it be free ?

Has Apple made any statements about whether the OSX updates will be free going forward, do people think they will make it free ?

I would have happily paid for Mavericks and would do so for OSX 10.10 but clearly free is hard to argue with


BTW I agree with wishlist about the photo app - I actually bought latest iPhoto (as I had old version) just for the photo stream, seems daft to force s to pay for that feature.

 

[weichsel]

Will it be free ?

Has Apple made any statements about whether the OSX updates will be free going forward, do people think they will make it free ?

The press release for Mavericks contains the following:

We believe the best way to do this is to begin a new era of personal computing software where OS upgrades are free

So I think that we can expect OS X 10.10 to be free as well.

 

[MartinAppleGuy]

I just want a redesign as well as more performance increases and optimisation.

 

[Serban]

I just want a redesign as well as more performance increases and optimisation.

optimisation we already got with maveriks...so i guess we will have redesign and some bug fix i hope

 

[MartinAppleGuy]

optimisation we already got with maveriks...so i guess we will have redesign and some bug fix i hope

I still feel that more could be improved. Maybe optimising default apps (like iMovie, Safari, iWork...) rather than the OS would be nice.