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KALLT

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I don't consider my Mac a computer anymore if I can't do something at the root level, which is the highest level of permission you can have on a UNIX system.

Then you better prepare yourself, because Apple seems to be heading in that direction.
 

nelsonammo

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Rainbow iTunes logo is better than the ugly red one. Actually I liked the blue one the best but I think they used blue for the app store so they had to change one of them.
 
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djtech42

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Most likely because you've done something wrong and don't realize what it is.
I'm trying to
Code:
sudo rm GenericFolderIcon.icns
so I can replace the system folder icon with my custom one like I have done in every OS up to this point.
 

w0lf

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I hope add the ability for the Reminders app to go into fullscreen so I can have it 1/3 in fullscreen next to another app that I'm using to accomplish tasks.

You can already do that. Just make any other app bring up the split screen picker and choose the Reminders app as the other half.

You can use this same method to get any app into fullscreen mode by then removing the other app from full screen in the split screen mode.

I'm trying to
Code:
sudo rm GenericFolderIcon.icns
so I can replace the system folder icon with my custom one like I have done in every OS up to this point.

What error are you getting when you try to run your sudo rm command?
 
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Takuro

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Visual tweaks to stacks in the dock:
  • Higher contrast icons in light mode
  • Apple finally fixed a major eye sore: Stack labels in dark mode are no longer horribly jagged on non-retina Macs. It's now properly smoothed. For whatever reason, they are not opting to fix this in 10.10 Yosemite. A bug I filed had recently been marked "closed" after being open nearly a year. I think this just goes to show that El Capitan is being aggressively targeted as a release to squash bugs. My gut tells me that Yosemite is likely going to get limited to only major security updates in the future.
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djtech42

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You can already do that. Just make any other app bring up the split screen picker and choose the Reminders app as the other half.

You can use this same method to get any app into fullscreen mode by then removing the other app from full screen in the split screen mode.



What error are you getting when you try to run your sudo rm command?
Operation not permitted. (Obviously because it won't let me do anything under root in the System folder.)
 

w0lf

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I'm trying to
Code:
sudo rm GenericFolderIcon.icns
so I can replace the system folder icon with my custom one like I have done in every OS up to this point.
Operation not permitted. (Obviously because it won't let me do anything under root in the System folder.)

Well maybe you should do a reinstall. Looking at your other post, where it errored out from the tool in the recovery partition, something's probably just borked with your particular install because rootless is definitely disableable and it's pretty easy to do so.
 

0000757

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Yes, there is. Lots of it. Starting with the metaphor of the desktop, the use of buttons, shadows on windows. The whole layering of windows and objects is there to simulate depth, including the frosted-glass effect. Yosemite dispensed with the rich and textured design, but not with skeuomorphism as such.

...not really? Skeuomorphism is a design element to mimic design elements and cues that are or were prevalent in the original.

For example, Skeuomorphism would be a phone calling app that visually looked like a rotary phone that you had to click and drag, or how iBooks used to mimic an actual bookshelf with fake wood textures.

Depth, Shadows, etc. aren't Skeuomorphism.
 

MadMitch89

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You can already do that. Just make any other app bring up the split screen picker and choose the Reminders app as the other half.

You can use this same method to get any app into fullscreen mode by then removing the other app from full screen in the split screen mode.

I see. It does work. I has some bugs and continuity issues in regards to how other apps operate. But I'm just happy I can have my calendar and reminders list tucked away in one fullscreen. As far as surface features go, the split screen is my favourite of 10.11.
 

KALLT

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...not really? Skeuomorphism is a design element to mimic design elements and cues that are or were prevalent in the original.

For example, Skeuomorphism would be a phone calling app that visually looked like a rotary phone that you had to click and drag, or how iBooks used to mimic an actual bookshelf with fake wood textures.

Depth, Shadows, etc. aren't Skeuomorphism.

No, that is not accurate. The debate got lopsided by that one definition, but it goes deeper than that. The shadow behind a window frame is purely cosmetic. There is no actual light source that casts it, there is not even a background on which it could be cast; it's a rendering. It's a great asset for user interfaces, but not necessary from a technical standpoint (there are flat designs that don't use it). These shadows relate directly to our visual perception of depth, our sense for focussing on nearby objects first and blurring out objects in the background. That is what skeuomorphs do, they connect things and perceptions of the physical world with metaphors in the virtual world and allow us to understand technology better. In other words, we make interface elements look like something in the physical world, whether complete concepts or not, which they are not or do not have to be. Likewise, virtual buttons invoke a similar response to physical buttons, but they are not necessary. On iOS, Apple replaced many buttons with text buttons (i.e. links), but didn't go as far on OS X. There are many other examples that are more obvious. The metaphor of the rubbish bin, for instance, is still present. You don't actually move an object into trash, but it's a concept most people can relate to.

Some have argued that computer UIs don't even have skeuomorphs in the traditional sense, but only visual metaphors of physical skeuomorphs or other real-word objects or concepts.
 
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fessura

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Image capture/iphoto used to automatically open when I plugged my devices in, can't remember exactly how to disable it but I'm sure it'll be similar for Photos

Found the setting in the import screen. Just never looked. :)
 

Grothesk

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So does anyone plan on running El Cap on the Early 2015 12 inch MacBook? I'd like to see how much of an improvement in both operation and battery life 10.11 has on a supposedly handicapped device.

Perhaps that's why Apple would release a Mac with An underpowered processor and shorter battery life (they knew El Cap would dramatically improve it)...

running it since yesterday. i definitely feel a huge speed improvement. and i had that exact same thought you had. with el capitan my macbook feels like a real powerful machine now. everything runs fast and smooth. (even with beta 1!!) iTunes and my huge song collection open up instantly. sure there's a bug here and there. but i think you are exactly right. this might be the reason for the new macbook. and part of the future for portable computers. (they've shown the new macbook nearly in every pic and demo for el cap)
sure it makes the pro macs even better. but i think 10.11 is really noticeable on th 12 inch.
 

ErikGrim

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Fixed the typing lag I was experiencing in Espresso on my 5K retina screen.
Clicking on sidebar items of unmounted disks no longer removes that item (!!!!)
Everything is silky smooth. Menus open instantly in Safari where they'd lag before.
San Fransisco regular is close enough to Helvetica Neue to put it into a UI uncanny valley
San Fransisco BOLD! I am in love! It is so beautiful! Really gives the Mac character again!
 
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Weelious225

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Feb 25, 2015
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I haven't installed El Capitan, but from screenshots here.. doesn't it seem that buttons seem to be convex now? Take a look at Safari for example.

PS. I'm not native speaker - did I use "convex" correctly? Please PM me if you care.
Yeah, convex means it looks like it's sticking out a bit (like a dome). And I totally agree with you, we seem to be the only people who noticed it but the old white buttons looked so unfinished.
 
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0000757

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No, that is not accurate. The debate got lopsided by that one definition, but it goes deeper than that. The shadow behind a window frame is purely cosmetic. There is no actual light source that casts it, there is not even a background on which it could be cast; it's a rendering. It's a great asset for user interfaces, but not necessary from a technical standpoint (there are flat designs that don't use it). These shadows relate directly to our visual perception of depth, our sense for focussing on nearby objects first and blurring out objects in the background. That is what skeuomorphs do, they connect things and perceptions of the physical world with metaphors in the virtual world and allow us to understand technology better. In other words, we make interface elements look like something in the physical world, whether complete concepts or not, which they are not or do not have to be. Likewise, virtual buttons invoke a similar response to physical buttons, but they are not necessary. On iOS, Apple replaced many buttons with text buttons (i.e. links), but didn't go as far on OS X. There are many other examples that are more obvious. The metaphor of the rubbish bin, for instance, is still present. You don't actually move an object into trash, but it's a concept most people can relate to.

Some have argued that computer UIs don't even have skeuomorphs in the traditional sense, but only visual metaphors of physical skeuomorphs or other real-word objects or concepts.

I disagree. That's taking the definition of Skeuomorphs and stretching it as thin as you can.

The purest definition of a skeuomorph is that of something which projects a ornament or element in order to imitate the actual existence of the object". For a non-computing example, my mom's car has Mercedes "MB-Tex". It looks like leather, it feels like leather, it acts like leather, but it's not leather.

As far as the case of buttons on OS X goes, I would argue they aren't skeuomorphic at all. They're flat with little to no roundness, and they aren't really "emulating" any button or switch in real life. If you wanted to argue that they were trying to emulate real life, then they'd look more like this:

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To say shadows are skeuomorphic is kind of stretching it thin too. "Windows" don't cast shadows in real life.
 
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Zach Nathan

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running it since yesterday. i definitely feel a huge speed improvement. and i had that exact same thought you had. with el capitan my macbook feels like a real powerful machine now. everything runs fast and smooth. (even with beta 1!!) iTunes and my huge song collection open up instantly. sure there's a bug here and there. but i think you are exactly right. this might be the reason for the new macbook. and part of the future for portable computers. (they've shown the new macbook nearly in every pic and demo for el cap)
sure it makes the pro macs even better. but i think 10.11 is really noticeable on th 12 inch.
YES. I knew there was a reason Apple would release such an underdog laptop. Always amazed at the genius of it all.
 
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