OS X 10.11 All The Little Things!

[keysofanxiety]

This isn't good... system files often times need to be changed out for UI customization.

Have you found a way around it?

So far the only solution is to add a boot argument to NVRAM, disabling the feature completely. We don't yet know how this works once the system is updated though.

Sorry if this has been asked before - does that mean you can no longer boot into Single User Mode?

 

[hashtagUI]

I really welcome the changes to the Toolbar buttons. The gradient and the darker gray outline makes it look like a more clickable UI element.

Also San Francisco is much better at kerning.

 

[Wormald]

True fullscreen mode in Safari... finally

View > Always Show Toolbar In Full Screen

Works just like Chrome's presentation mode.

 

[Watabou]

What does this actually do?

It seems to have an affect on the color of the display, as it doesn't seem to darken or brighten the display. It's sort of similar to Flux but not that great.

You can try it yourself (especially at night), enable it, keep it on for a while and then disable it to see the difference.

 

[KALLT]

I disagree. That's taking the definition of Skeuomorphs and stretching it as thin as you can.

The purest definition of a skeuomorph is that of something which projects a ornament or element in order to imitate the actual existence of the object". For a non-computing example, my mom's car has Mercedes "MB-Tex". It looks like leather, it feels like leather, it acts like leather, but it's not leather.

As far as the case of buttons on OS X goes, I would argue they aren't skeuomorphic at all. They're flat with little to no roundness, and they aren't really "emulating" any button or switch in real life. If you wanted to argue that they were trying to emulate real life, then they'd look more like this:


To say shadows are skeuomorphic is kind of stretching it thin too. "Windows" don't cast shadows in real life.

Windows in UI design are not even supposed to depict glass windows. We use the same term for two entirely different things. 'Windows' in OS X are mostly opaque panels that are put on top of each other, with a shadow that mimics depth and makes it look like a panel is floating on top of the rest. They thus similarly 'emulate real life'. Your example of the Mercedes also applies to this: you use a real-like example to create a metaphor of something that isn't there. The point of skeuomorphs is the borrowing of real-world objects and concepts that we can relate to and understand, but it goes further than pure ornamentation.

Since we don't agree about the very definition, I'm not going to debate this further. I will repeat the point of treichert and say that El Capitan has not introduced more skeuomorphs than Yosemite, but El Capitan has introduced a bit of a richer design again with a slight gloss and gradient on some buttons and more distinctive shadows. Thus going back to the original point: Apple seems to be making slight adjustments in some areas that go more in the direction of what we had previously, indicating that Apple is not going to go so flat as iOS 7, like some people would like. We just don't need to call it a return to skeuomorphism.

 

[macintoshmac]

A lot of talk about the Music icon here, and sometimes it seems like people are actually having that icon. Is it so? I thought this DP did not have the new icon.

 

[Mikep93]

Not noticed anything major yet but jesus on a velociraptor it's snappy as hell, all of the animations have gone turbo! (i5 MBP 2012).

EDIT:Actually, have just noticed this, my HD4000 memory access has increased beyond 1GB although it does still say Yosemite for some reason!!!

Yeah, mine was like this for about 24 hours - restarted and now it's on El Capitan.

 

[Mikep93]

The Weather, Stock and Web Video Spotlight searches (as quoted on the apple website) don't work for me. Anyone else found this?

 

[Belmont31R]

My iTunes icon has not changed to the new one. Numerous restarts of both the computer and iTunes with no changes.

 

[nikmatt]

I doubt it. It didn't kill the iPhone either and by far most users do not have a reason to mess with the system folder anyway.

OS X is supposed to be a full featured advanced operating system, and locking it down as if it was a mobile device is absurd. If people want to use an iPhone or iPad they use an iPhone or iPad... that's why they exist. Beating OS X into a soulless, marginally more useful version of iOS is just insulting.

 

[aldrinjtauro]

OS X is supposed to be a full featured advanced operating system, and locking it down as if it was a mobile device is absurd. If people want to use an iPhone or iPad they use an iPhone or iPad... that's why they exist. Beating OS X into a soulless, marginally more useful version of iOS is just insulting.

I mean, if they did end up making Rootless a thing, it'd be nice if they gave you an option when you first turn on the machine (or clean install) to choose whether you want Rootless or not, kind of like they way they make you pick encryption or not. A lot of people would be perfectly fine with Rootless, but power users could opt out.

 

[w0lf]

My iTunes icon has not changed to the new one. Numerous restarts of both the computer and iTunes with no changes.

• New iTunes icon (Not present in 15A178w)

Read closer next time.

 

[aldrinjtauro]

I hate the new iTunes icon! Why ? Why ? So damn ugly

How'd you get the new icon? I thought it wasn't included in the current build.

 

[redheeler]

Step 1: Run a backup of the current iTunes and iTunes document icons
Step 2: Replace the new iTunes icons with the old ones you ran a backup off

No one actually has the new iTunes installed yet, but that doesn't mean we can't complain about how ugly it is.

 

[aldrinjtauro]

No one actually has the new iTunes installed yet, but that doesn't mean we can't complain about how ugly it is.

Oh, never mind, that guy's picture looked like an actual screenshot.

 

[MacsRgr8]

Done by the OS after software installs/updates.

That is one big F I N A L L Y !!

How could we keep telling other users to occasionally do this...

 

[n-evo]

No one actually has the new iTunes installed yet, but that doesn't mean we can't complain about how ugly it is.

Did I say otherwise? I'm just pointing out a possible fix once it's released if you don't like the new icon. But if all you want to do is complain without being susceptible to solutions, be my guest.

 

[redheeler]

Did I say otherwise? I'm just pointing out a possible fix once it's released if you don't like the new icon. But if all you want to do is complain without being susceptible to solutions, be my guest.

Just making sure you know we aren't complaining because we already have it installed and need to revert back to the old one. I will make a solution available when one is required, don't worry.

 

[ErikGrim]

I disagree. That's taking the definition of Skeuomorphs and stretching it as thin as you can.

The purest definition of a skeuomorph is that of something which projects a ornament or element in order to imitate the actual existence of the object". For a non-computing example, my mom's car has Mercedes "MB-Tex". It looks like leather, it feels like leather, it acts like leather, but it's not leather.

As far as the case of buttons on OS X goes, I would argue they aren't skeuomorphic at all. They're flat with little to no roundness, and they aren't really "emulating" any button or switch in real life. If you wanted to argue that they were trying to emulate real life, then they'd look more like this:


To say shadows are skeuomorphic is kind of stretching it thin too. "Windows" don't cast shadows in real life.

While I applaud your skills at looking up words on Wikipedia, that's really not what skeuomorphism means in UX and GUI design. A skeuomorph is a visual metaphor: The desktop is a digital representation of your real life desktop: You put your files and folders there. While the calculator in Yosemite and El Cap are clean and textureless it is still very much skeuomorphic in the way it is laid out and works like a physical calculator.

 

[jameslmoser]

The command will not change what Disk Utility shows but it does disable the Rootless protection.

Yes, I have done that. It still doesn't actually change the behavior of it, but it does show rootless 0 in the parameters. When I look in Disk Utility, it shows rootless is still enabled.

I think your problem might be that you used "rootless 0" instead of "rootless=0". I've seen it posted both ways a number of times and I think it confused a few people.

 

[hachre]

Sorry if this has been asked before - does that mean you can no longer boot into Single User Mode?

You can, but rootless is also active there by default.

 

[Cougarcat]

I mean, if they did end up making Rootless a thing, it'd be nice if they gave you an option when you first turn on the machine (or clean install) to choose whether you want Rootless or not, kind of like they way they make you pick encryption or not. A lot of people would be perfectly fine with Rootless, but power users could opt out.

I think it's fine the way it is now. The people who have a desire to disable it can, and the people who don't know what it means don't have to worry about it.

While I applaud your skills at looking up words on Wikipedia, that's really not what skeuomorphism means in UX and GUI design.

OK, but surely you can see the difference between how UX designers use it and the way it is colloquially used, i.e Yosemite is less skeuomorphic because there is less emulation of real-world objects - no linen, no leather, etc. It might be technically inaccurate but it is still useful.

 

[jlbrown]

Anyone been getting lots of these in Console?

11/6/2015 2:55:44.256 PM mDNSResponder[113]: nw_interface_get_agents SIOCGIFAGENTIDS failed (errno = 6)

And this:

11/6/2015 4:28:34.898 PM WindowServer[219]: Surface test allowed updates after 12 attempts (48 ms)
11/6/2015 4:28:34.987 PM WindowServer[219]: Surface testing disallowed updates for 10 sequential attempts...

James.

 

[Shirasaki]

Yeah, convex means it looks like it's sticking out a bit (like a dome). And I totally agree with you, we seem to be the only people who noticed it but the old white buttons looked so unfinished.

I have noticed this convex effect. And I am also not a native speaker.
For me it doesn't matter because I treat those icons as an app recogniser. As long as those I ones help me to launch the correct app, it works. I treat the utility of those elements more than beauty.

 

[Shirasaki]

I mean, if they did end up making Rootless a thing, it'd be nice if they gave you an option when you first turn on the machine (or clean install) to choose whether you want Rootless or not, kind of like they way they make you pick encryption or not. A lot of people would be perfectly fine with Rootless, but power users could opt out.

iOS doesn't even allow any users do so, such as changing system software.
Of course, this is different from OS X.
If you have a windows installed on you Mac, you can use windows to modify those system files, with proper third party software installed. And you can also modify windows files on Mac OS X as well.
Guess what I say is of no sense....