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bahndoos

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I don't think anyones noticed this, and its gonna BLOW YOUR MIND.

The battery nub in El Cap is ROUNDED now. ZOMG.
 

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MikhailT

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No, no, of course. It's great for the public and for me 99% of the time. However, it feels like it's just a matter of time until we can't even disable it with a command. I do not like the thought of that happening.

We heard the same thing ever since Lion when they released GateKeeper. They still haven't removed that option.

If it happens, it's not like you can't move to Linux.
 
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Shirasaki

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Wait, what? Seriously? I can't even change files in /System/Library on 10.11?
Although we can still eventually change system files in Windows for example, if apple forces integrity check, deep optimisation could be a nightmare.
 

Shirasaki

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Yeah. I liked that clean look with just a white button and sharp shadow. They now apply a slight gradient and a light gray outline around the buttons...
Could I say a not successful try of combination of new design and compromise of skeuomorphism?
 

Shirasaki

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Not sure if this was mentioned or not (didn't go through the thread), but you can rename files now by right-clicking. So much more convenient, not sure why it took so long for that.
This is a function rooted in Windows for quite a long time.
 

Shirasaki

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I don't consider my Mac a computer anymore if I can't do something at the root level, which is the highest level of permission you can have on a UNIX system.
Microsoft has added integrity check on key system files.

I am not sure if apple will add it to the system in this release.
 

BigxMac

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On iOS a "rootless" feature makes sense for Apple. The only people who need root are jailbreakers which Apple is trying to prevent (I am a jailbreaker and this saddens me). On OS X for the average user this feature could add security I suppose. If you are a power user however this kinda just rains on your parade. OS X is a Unix based OS. The very nature of Unix is having a root user. I hope before the release in the fall they add a way to turn this off in the security settings.
 

Drew017

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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but the three-finger lookup text seems a bit smaller to me:

Notes.png


Also, has anyone figured out how to float an individual note from the new app? Double clicking its name on the sidebar doesn't do it anymore.
 
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Shirasaki

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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but the three-finger lookup text seems a bit smaller to me:

Notes.png


Also, has anyone figured out how to float an individual note from the new app? Double clicking its name on the sidebar doesn't do it anymore.
The new dictionary lookup font is small for me as well.
 

Shirasaki

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On iOS a "rootless" feature makes sense for Apple. The only people who need root are jailbreakers which Apple is trying to prevent (I am a jailbreaker and this saddens me). On OS X for the average user this feature could add security I suppose. If you are a power user however this kinda just rains on your parade. OS X is a Unix based OS. The very nature of Unix is having a root user. I hope before the release in the fall they add a way to turn this off in the security settings.
As long as apple want to lock system in this degree, users will find a way to let them do in-depth customisation.
By default it is impossible to show hidden and system protected files in finder. I bet they will not add this function to this version.
 

Shirasaki

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Isn't using the RETURN key or slow double click faster than right click and then click and then keyboard?
I think the windows way is faster than mac way.
And, why we cannot simply use delete button to delete file to trash can? :(
 

Gwendolini

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I think the windows way is faster than mac way.
It probably is, though I haven't used Windows for a long time and am just used to keyboard navigation when it comes to renaming files.

And, why we cannot simply use delete button to delete file to trash can? :(
You have to ask Apple that, it is sometimes irritating, but adds an extra layer of preventing accidental deletion of data.
I am fine with it.
 

ErikGrim

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I think the windows way is faster than mac way.
And, why we cannot simply use delete button to delete file to trash can? :(
Reaching for a secondary input device, clicking a button, finding the correct menu item and clicking it, then returning to your keyboard to start typing, is objectively slower than hitting return and start typing.

You just proved it by wanting a single keyboard command to perform a different (and destructive) operation.
 
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danielagos

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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but the three-finger lookup text seems a bit smaller to me:

Notes.png


Also, has anyone figured out how to float an individual note from the new app? Double clicking its name on the sidebar doesn't do it anymore.

Not only is the font smaller, they also tweaked the visual appearance of the lookup. By the way, I didn't know it, but Apple seems to update the dictionary, nice.

Here's a screenshot from Yosemite for comparison:
Screen Shot 2015-06-12 at 02.54.40.png
 

Shirasaki

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Reaching for a secondary input device, clicking a button, finding the correct menu item and clicking it, then returning to your keyboard to start typing is objectively slower than hitting return and start typing.

You just proved it by wanting a single keyboard command to perform a different (and destructive) operation.
Ok. For rename, yes I admit this is really slow. But when consider the possibility of opening a file, and renaming a file, I think, windows has done a good job on that. You know, every time I want to open a file selected in finder, I need to move my hand to trackpad or mouse, and double click. This is identical to what windows does the renaming operation.

Talk about deleting, what I hope is to delete it into trash can, but not a permanent delete. Do I still need to drag the file all the way to trash can? If I use mouse, it is ok. But when I use trackpad, this is a pain, especially when I need to move my finger on trackpad many times to let the file reach the destination.
 

Shirasaki

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It probably is, though I haven't used Windows for a long time and am just used to keyboard navigation when it comes to renaming files.


You have to ask Apple that, it is sometimes irritating, but adds an extra layer of preventing accidental deletion of data.
I am fine with it.
And can you use keyboard navigation to open any files? I admit I am a newbie on using Mac.
 

ErikGrim

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Ok. For rename, yes I admit this is really slow. But when consider the possibility of opening a file, and renaming a file, I think, windows has done a good job on that. You know, every time I want to open a file selected in finder, I need to move my hand to trackpad or mouse, and double click. This is identical to what windows does the renaming operation.
Let me introduce you to ⌘-O or ⌘-⇣ ;)
 
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Gwendolini

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Talk about deleting, what I hope is to delete it into trash can, but not a permanent delete. Do I still need to drag the file all the way to trash can? If I use mouse, it is ok. But when I use trackpad, this is a pain, especially when I need to move my finger on trackpad many times to let the file reach the destination.

That is what backups are there for.
And what is the advantage of deleting a file (putting it into the Trash) and storing it there? Why delete it in the first place?

And there is also that tap to lock feature, where you double tap a file or object and it can be dragged quite easy without getting cramps.

And can you use keyboard navigation to open any files? I admit I am a newbie on using Mac.

Yes, one uses CMD and the arrow down button. Easy if one has done it often enough, not easy for those not accustomed to that command.
 

bmac89

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I think the windows way is faster than mac way.
And, why we cannot simply use delete button to delete file to trash can? :(

⌘ + delete

This will send selected files to the trash can.


P.S. Keyboard shortcut to empty trash:

⌘ + Shift + delete
 
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