OTA 4.3, so who's got it?

[mattopotamus]

I think the problem with Android is that there's a lot of ways to do everything and it's hard to find them all in one place. xda-developers is main home of the Android community and look how disorganised it is. Whenever I move to a new phone I have to spend a good week getting to grips with the specific information about that phone, and this is coming from someone who's been with Android since the G1.

There are sites like RootzWiki which attempt to remedy this problem but in practice they're not often updated and important information is either outdated or missing.

On the other hand, all iPhones basically work the same so there's lot less to learn.

This hasn't turned me off Android because I'm a techie who enjoys learning all this stuff and having the chance to experiment with my own devices anyway, but I do understand how noobies can find it overwhelming.

Whenever I read something on XDA is goes like this:

"first your need to do this, and if you don't know how google it.

Then you do this, and if you don't know how google it."

That same step gets repeated over and over.

 

[0dev]

Whenever I read something on XDA is goes like this:

"first your need to do this, and if you don't know how google it.

Then you do this, and if you don't know how google it."

That same step gets repeated over and over.

I've had mixed experiences. Sometimes you can go into a thread and ask a question and get helpful answers. I think a lot of people in the community are friendly and helpful.

But there are also a few extremely entitled huge ego ****s who will answer any legitimate question with "This was already answered on page 322 you ****ing noob! Are you actually retarded? Use search next time!!!!!" They will also say stuff along the lines of "I am a recognised developer with over 2,000 thanks, I am superior to you on this forum about phones!" which roughly translates to "I have an inadequately small penis."

The open source community seems to attract this sort of people for some reason. Linus Torvalds himself is well known to be a massive ass.

 

[Assault]

Whenever I read something on XDA is goes like this:

"first your need to do this, and if you don't know how google it.

Then you do this, and if you don't know how google it."

That same step gets repeated over and over.

That is because XDA assumes you have some modicum of knowledge on Android. It has the word "Developer" in the acronym for a reason you know? You wont get much in the way of hand holding, but the layout is simple and there is a nice omnibox where you type in your device name and it takes you right to that section of the board. Every device has the same layout. Pretty simple IMO.

 

[0dev]

That is because XDA assumes you have some modicum of knowledge on Android. It has the word "Developer" in the acronym for a reason you know? You wont get much in the way of hand holding, but the layout is simple and there is a nice omnibox where you type in your device name and it takes you right to that section of the board. Every device has the same layout. Pretty simple IMO.

 

[Menel]

That is because XDA assumes you have some modicum of knowledge on Android. It has the word "Developer" in the acronym for a reason you know? You wont get much in the way of hand holding, but the layout is simple and there is a nice omnibox where you type in your device name and it takes you right to that section of the board. Every device has the same layout. Pretty simple IMO.

a little more than just the acronym... 3 times in the title... my guess is the D in the acronym isnt for developer. It's for 1. digital 2. design or 3. distributed

"Welcome to xda-developers, a community founded for developers by developers."

 

[0dev]

a little more than just the acronym... 3 times in the title... my guess is the D in the acronym isnt for developer. It's for 1. digital 2. design or 3. distributed

"Welcome to xda-developers, a community founded for developers by developers."

Actually the "xda" comes from the O2 XDA smartphone which ran Windows Mobile back in the early 2000's.

 

[Assault]

YouTube: video

Sorry. I was referring to the layout of the device's page. Like this:

 

[ChazUK]

I flashed the 3G Nexus 7 model factory images today. All my data is in the cloud so I've not lost much.

 

[0dev]

Sorry. I was referring to the layout of the device's page. Like this:

I know, I'm just joking around. Once you find your device page the way it's laid out is pretty simple. Finding the device page in the first place is a nightmare though, I just use Google. I couldn't even find the i9505 forum without Google.

 

[bushido]

I guess you must really struggle on a computer then?

Ironically im a business informatics student.

Im just not willing to risk bricking it incase something goes wrong plus like others have already mentioned there r so many dif ways to do it i have no clue which is the proper way like lets say i "flash" 4.3 on it, can i still use that nexus 4 toolkit to root it? No clue

 

[Assault]

Ironically im a business informatics student.

Im just not willing to risk bricking it incase something goes wrong plus like others have already mentioned there r so many dif ways to do it i have no clue which is the proper way like lets say i "flash" 4.3 on it, can i still use that nexus 4 toolkit to root it? No clue

Considering you have to be rooted, before you can "flash" anything, your query is moot.

As for "bricking" an Android phone running OS 4.x+, is extremely difficult to do. You would first have to be rooted, then do something really stupid like attempt to flash a ROM intended for another device. As with anything like this, researching and learning what to do is the first step. Once you do though, the benefits are endless.

 

[bushido]

Considering you have to be rooted, before you can "flash" anything, your query is moot.

As for "bricking" an Android phone running OS 4.x+, is extremely difficult to do. You would first have to be rooted, then do something really stupid like attempt to flash a ROM intended for another device. As with anything like this, researching and learning what to do is the first step. Once you do though, the benefits are endless.

wouldnt I loose the root access once im successfully upgraded to 4.3 though? cuz it restores to factory doesnt it. so i would have to root again once im on 4.3

 

[The Robot Cow]

How is the Galaxy Nexus holding up?

I'm ready for something new haha, Battery life sucks the most and it gets annoying. yes its a nexus, but the lag, battery life and the radios aren't the best. I'm going motorola or back to the iphone.

So Google don't actually roll out an OTA update to everyone at same time either ? I thought it was just other android handset manufacturers and carriers to blame.

Seriously with all the blinking servers Google must own how can they not push out the OTA to everyone like Apple do?

At least they have it available to download though which is good.

Its not as simple as 1,2,3 go. Read this: http://androidandme.com/2013/07/new...why-manufacturers-are-mostly-quiet-right-now/

 

[Jibbajabba]

I've had mixed experiences. Sometimes you can go into a thread and ask a question and get helpful answers. I think a lot of people in the community are friendly and helpful.

But there are also a few extremely entitled huge ego ****s who will answer any legitimate question with "This was already answered on page 322 you ****ing noob! Are you actually retarded? Use search next time!!!!!" They will also say stuff along the lines of "I am a recognised developer with over 2,000 thanks, I am superior to you on this forum about phones!" which roughly translates to "I have an inadequately small penis."

The open source community seems to attract this sort of people for some reason. Linus Torvalds himself is well known to be a massive ass.

Same on Linux forums. God forbid you ask how to find the right sources for your kernel.

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wouldnt I loose the root access once im successfully upgraded to 4.3 though? cuz it restores to factory doesnt it. so i would have to root again once im on 4.3

You would but it takes only 20 seconds to reapply cfautoroot

 

[maxosx]

I think the problem with Android is that there's a lot of ways to do everything and it's hard to find them all in one place. xda-developers is main home of the Android community and look how disorganised it is. Whenever I move to a new phone I have to spend a good week getting to grips with the specific information about that phone, and this is coming from someone who's been with Android since the G1.

There are sites like RootzWiki which attempt to remedy this problem but in practice they're not often updated and important information is either outdated or missing.

On the other hand, all iPhones basically work the same so there's lot less to learn.

This hasn't turned me off Android because I'm a techie who enjoys learning all this stuff and having the chance to experiment with my own devices anyway, but I do understand how noobies can find it overwhelming.

Wow.. the G1, now that brings back memories, as I too began my Android adventure with one upon release from T-Mobile.

You do have a very good point, having lived and breathed computers as long as I have, as well as working with them daily, I guess I tended to forget that it's a bit daunting when you are brand new. Not to mention as you aptly mentioned.... xda is a deep, but disorganized well of information.

Conversely Apple has always been quite organized with it's site, it's support, and it's consistency.

For me, viva le difference. For others not so much and understandably so.

 

[jamezr]

Considering you have to be rooted, before you can "flash" anything, your point is moot.

As for "bricking" an Android phone running OS 4.x+, is extremely difficult to do. You would first have to be rooted, then do something really stupid like attempt to flash a ROM intended for another device. As with anything like this, researching and learning what to do is the first step. Once you do though, the benefits are endless.

You can brick a phone trying flash roms.......
But the rom creator has explicit instructions on how to flash his rom.
Plus there has to be some prior knowledge about flashing roms. If you don't educate yourself then you will not succeed.

 

[slu]

Gradual roll outs prevents overloading servers and make easier stop if there is a problem

How come Apple doesn't have this problem? Especially since their installed base updates much faster.

 

[ChazUK]

How come Apple doesn't have this problem? Especially since their installed base updates much faster.

Apple do things differently. If they release an update with, say, an Microsoft Exchange killing issue there is little opportunity to stop the update and the majority are left with the issue. A phased rollout means that if some undiscovered bug has slipped through testing, less people are affected and the update can be stopped.

 

[gotluck]

YouTube

Haha, this is quite funny and true

 

[blackhand1001]

For anyone who finds flash the rom in recovery too difficult, you can use this. I don't personally use it since I am pretty advanced and even help develop custom roms but I have played around with it and its super simple to use.

Nexus toolkit
http://www.wugfresh.com/

Direct download link if the website official site is down or slow.
http://d-h.st/mUa

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How come Apple doesn't have this problem? Especially since their installed base updates much faster.

Have you ever seen how slow and bombed apples servers end up on release days of updates.

 

[Stooby Mcdoobie]

Just received the update on my Nexus 4.

 

[bushido]

Just received the update on my Nexus 4.

so did I! randomly just got the notification on my german nexus 4 finally

Have you ever seen how slow and bombed apples servers end up on release days of updates.

never had an issue with installing a software update from apple, takes less than 10 mins to download and install. all google needs to do is push it at different times for every time zone in different countries

 

[AppleRobert]

A bit of a different way but I just got a new Nexus 7 so I guess I have 4.3 as well.

 

[bmac4]

I just got the update installing it right now.

 

[Cole Slaw]

Just used this method I saw on another website to get the update:

1. Go to Settings -> Apps -> All

2. Find Google Services Framework.

3. Tap on Force Stop.

4. Select Clear Data.

5. Head back to the Nexus′s Settings, go to About, and check for a System Update.

You might have to repeat the method above a couple of times, but I got it to work on 3 Nexus devices in the home ( Nexus 4, Nexus 7, Nexus 10).