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After calibrating the battery and firing up the Coconut Battery app, it tells me that the battery was manufactured on 30th March 2015, and my MBP was manufactured on 25th May 2015!!!
Well, its not made in 30th March 2015. That is an error with how the date is recorded in aftermarket batteries and how its read by Coconut in certain OS versions. I had the same problem, and I think exact same date displayed, with my aftermarket battery, Coconut and Big Sur. With older OS versions it shows more logical manufacturing date.

 
We have 2 2014s and 1 2015. I had my 2014 and 2015 batteries replaced in 2021 by Apple and they are fine. My son's 2014 had the battery replaced two weeks ago by a local shop. Apple didn't have kits for the Retina MBPs anywhere in the US. It is possible that they don't service these anymore. At any rate, he hasn't complained about the battery so I assume that it is fine.

The shop does high-volume Mac and PC repairs and they've been around for 20 years. I had never heard of the battery brand before but he's hoping for the best.
 
Did anyone ever use the 2-Power laptop batteries?

How do they compare to the usual suspects, Newer Tech, iFix etc?
 
Is it just me or is it not very advantageous to keep using a MBP from 2011, which is no longer supported by Apple, and is not capable of running even somewhat recent software? I have a Mac IIci but I have no intention of having it be my primary computer.
 
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Is it just me or is it not very advantageous to keep using a MBP from 2011, which is no longer supported by Apple, and is not capable of running even somewhat recent software? I have a Mac IIci but I have no intention of having it be my primary computer.

It’s just you in this thread of people happy with the machine and trying to breathe some life into it.

Mine still does everything I need it to.
 
Is it just me or is it not very advantageous to keep using a MBP from 2011, which is no longer supported by Apple, and is not capable of running even somewhat recent software? I have a Mac IIci but I have no intention of having it be my primary computer.

I'm a very demanding user and my two laptops are a 16" M1 Pro MBP and a 2009 Unibody MBP. I only use my 2009 for limited uses though, but it has its place. I use it run a couple of software packages that won't run on my M1 and I have a few other limited uses for it.

The only thing keeping me from using it more is the screen. I spend too much of my day staring at screens and the eye fatigue I get from staring at lower res screens isn't worth it.
 
My new (1.5 years old) replacement battery from Amazon is coming up as service battery. It really is discharging quickly and I just attributed it to these machines not managing power well.

So maybe I got what I paid for. I got it off Amazon from one of the many options. Not the cheapest in go the options but not the most. I remember laboring over the choice and reading reviews. I thought I made a good choice.

So maybe it's time to try the OWC NuPower battery for $104 that is often recommended here? That said, I believe Apple will replace it for $129. I can surely handle it, but why not go with Apple for $25 more. Does Apple "condition" it the way OWC reccomends?
wow didn't know you could get a battery off Amazon . Good to know
 
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I'm going to get the 2-Power. They're not Amazon cheap, its about £70GBP. The last OEM I was able to find was from 2019 and it lasted a few months, before it started dropping from 25% straight to 7%. Hugely disappointing. Nothing ever beats the original fitted battery, not that it ever gave me the advertised (at the time) 10 hours
 
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I vote for OWC/MACSALES been using these batteries for many years never had an issue. Larry's store as far as I know was the first real store that supported the Mac platform. He always has the most cutting edge things for upgrading Macs. My go to store.
 
I vote for OWC/MACSALES been using these batteries for many years never had an issue. Larry's store as far as I know was the first real store that supported the Mac platform. He always has the most cutting edge things for upgrading Macs. My go to store.
Both US based yeh?
 
Very interesting thread…

Less than three years ago, I had the batteries replaced by Apple in my two 2015 MacBook Pros. (13” & 15”) $200 apiece, but I got new trackpads and keyboards, which I thought was a decent deal. Both had batteries swollen into nice looking pillows. (Apple’s price for replacement keyboards was significantly higher than that, which I found amusing, since it’s the exact same modification. The keyboard, trackpad, battery, and bottom case are all replaced as a single unit, regardless.)

Back then, I wondered whether keeping a MacBook plugged in 24/7 was bad for the batteries. I asked several “Geniuses”, even at different Apple Stores, and checked Apple’s website. Even asked phone support a couple different times to get more info. All agreed it would be no problem, and that keeping them plugged in wasn’t why my batteries had turned into balloons.

Now I’m back to square one. All the batteries are swollen into nice, comfy looking pillows again. This time, I did extensive research of Li-ion batteries specifically. (Not just MacBooks as before.) Discovered keeping them fully charged is very bad, and the longer they remain in that state, the more damage occurs. All research, over many years, have reached the same conclusions. Keeping them near 50% charged is ideal. Avoid going over 80% or much below ~40% if possible. This is why Apple products supposedly learn your habits, and charge to 80% until your patterns of use show you will need them soon, then they charge to 100%. At least that is according to Apple.

The Li-ion battery advice is hardly the only bad information I’ve gotten from Apple. Other experiences have included so much misinformation (and occasional total BS) that I’ve essentially given up asking them anything. Better off doing your own research than trusting Apple’s official statements. (Such a difference from when Steve Jobs ran the show–sigh.) This isn’t to say all Apple employees stick to the company line, but those who don’t soon find themselves unemployed.

One tip for anyone who, like me, uses their MacBook as a desktop computer; Plugged in 24/7. Get yourself a free little program called Charge Limiter, and set it to 50%. Works great so far for me! If the experts and their research are correct, I may be good for many years to come. The only reason I use a battery at all is because the models I own won’t even boot without a battery. I tried! I even tried disconnecting the batteries from the circuitboard, and plugging the circuitboard in, hoping to trick the computer. Nope!
 
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Very interesting thread…

Less than three years ago, I had the batteries replaced by Apple in my two 2015 MacBook Pros. (13” & 15”) $200 apiece, but I got new trackpads and keyboards, which I thought was a decent deal. Both had batteries swollen into nice looking pillows. (Apple’s price for replacement keyboards was significantly higher than that, which I found amusing, since it’s the exact same modification. The keyboard, trackpad, battery, and bottom case are all replaced as a single unit, regardless.)

Back then, I wondered whether keeping a MacBook plugged in 24/7 was bad for the batteries. I asked several “Geniuses”, even at different Apple Stores, and checked Apple’s website. Even asked phone support a couple different times to get more info. All agreed it would be no problem, and that keeping them plugged in wasn’t why my batteries had turned into balloons.

Now I’m back to square one. All the batteries are swollen into nice, comfy looking pillows again. This time, I did extensive research of Li-ion batteries specifically. (Not just MacBooks as before.) Discovered keeping them fully charged is very bad, and the longer they remain in that state, the more damage occurs. All research, over many years, have reached the same conclusions. Keeping them near 50% charged is ideal. Avoid going over 80% or much below ~40% if possible. This is why Apple products supposedly learn your habits, and charge to 80% until your patterns of use show you will need them soon, then they charge to 100%. At least that is according to Apple.

The Li-ion battery advice is hardly the only bad information I’ve gotten from Apple. Other experiences have included so much misinformation (and occasional total BS) that I’ve essentially given up asking them anything. Better off doing your own research than trusting Apple’s official statements. (Such a difference from when Steve Jobs ran the show–sigh.) This isn’t to say all Apple employees stick to the company line, but those who don’t soon find themselves unemployed.

One tip for anyone who, like me, uses their MacBook as a desktop computer; Plugged in 24/7. Get yourself a free little program called Charge Limiter, and set it to 50%. Works great so far for me! If the experts and their research are correct, I may be good for many years to come. The only reason I use a battery at all is because the models I own won’t even boot without a battery. I tried! I even tried disconnecting the batteries from the circuitboard, and plugging the circuitboard in, hoping to trick the computer. Nope!
Try replacing the batteries yourself, I do my own and it’s not very hard. Especially when they swell up, they are easier to pull off the bottom case in this state.
 
For YEARS in this forum, I've been warning MacBook owners that it's not such a good idea to leave the unit plugged into the charger all the time.

Post 313 above is yet another example as to why not to do this...
 
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Even 3 years ago I'm surprised they did them, and didn't refer to them as 'vintage' like they did with my 2011 MBP several years ago and wouldn't touch it. The 2015 is one you can still unscrew yourself and swap them out, no?
 
Even 3 years ago I'm surprised they did them, and didn't refer to them as 'vintage' like they did with my 2011 MBP several years ago and wouldn't touch it. The 2015 is one you can still unscrew yourself and swap them out, no?
No. The battery is glued to the top case so when Apple replace the battery you get a whole new top case & keyboard. I had the one in my 15" 2015 MBP replaced by Apple in December 2022 as battery life was down to 79%. Over a year on I doubt that Apple have any new batteries left for 2015 MBPs.
 
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Ahh, OK, I misunderstood, thanks. I've had 2 OEM and neither have been brilliant, now using 3rd party which isn't massively better, but we'll see

No. The battery is glued to the to-case so when Apple replace the battery you get a whole new top case & keyboard. I had the one in my 15" 2015 MBP replaced by Apple in December 2022 as battery life was down to 79%. Over a year on I doubt that Apple have any new batteries left for 2015 MBPs.
 
Ahh, OK, I misunderstood, thanks. I've had 2 OEM and neither have been brilliant, now using 3rd party which isn't massively better, but we'll see

I’ve found a few OEM batteries on eBay for my obsolete machine, my experience is similar. They don’t last any longer than the many aftermarket options on Amazon but cost double. I’ve just accepted that I’ll buy a new aftermarket one every few years.
 
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I’ve found a few OEM batteries on eBay for my obsolete machine, my experience is similar. They don’t last any longer than the many aftermarket options on Amazon but cost double. I’ve just accepted that I’ll buy a new aftermarket one every few years.

The very fact Apple referred to my MBP not 3 or 4 years after new, as 'vintage' and therefore we don't carry them anymore, is a bit crap. They should carry batteries for fitting or sale for twice that period. Mine were a dead ringer for the original and Coconut confirmed it was, so I know they were original, but sadly the company I got them from doesn't supply them anymore, and use something called Huarigor, who I've never heard of. But the OEM wasn't great and had been laying around a while. So it's now done.
 
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Hi all,

I've recently been faced with the same dilemma about what to do to keep an old MacBook Pro powered when not near a wall socket. Mine's the last 17" model produced (2011), souped-up with maximum RAM, a fast SSD, a dGPU bypass, dual-boot with Ubuntu, etc. etc. It's still a great machine with a fantastic selection of ports that I still find useful… but urgh isn't trying to source a reliable replacement battery a pain?!

So I thought I'd share my experiences in case they help anyone else. In August 2016 the original OEM battery started swelling, so I paid Apple to install a new battery, which of course worked great for several years. However, in 2022 I started to get a bit nervous about the potential for the battery to fail so when I saw a UK supplier had a NewerTech battery in stock for a good price I grabbed one to have in hand ready for when I decided the 2016 Apple battery was no longer usable.

That time came late 2023 when the laptop started conking out randomly when running on battery power – I guess the ageing battery was no longer able to supply the right level of power consistently so if the laptop needed to draw a bit more for a few seconds, the battery would struggle and the whole system would switch off with no warning. So I swapped in the NewerTech battery and… hmm. Not great. Several observations struck me during installation and after subsequent use:
  • The plastic battery casing was thicker than the OEM battery, causing the bottom body panel of the MBP to bulge slightly when screwed back on, and causing the trackpad to feel and sound slightly different.
  • The battery was completely dead on installation – not even a blinking single green light on the battery gauge.
  • Probably connected to that, when calibrating or otherwise draining the battery, it would never safely shut down or hibernate when the battery was low – it would just die, like pulling the plug on a desktop, and even the computer's clock would reset if left too long without plugging in.
  • After calibration the battery would work well down to about 20/30% but then speed down to under 10% before collecting its thoughts and dropping more slowly again. Severe CPU throttling would kick in around about this point too. I never like to use the laptop 'til the battery's that low so that meant I was only effectively using three quarters of its capacity. (This, incidentally, has shades of the OP's iFixit problem and others who've observed batteries dropping quickly to 7%…)
  • After a few months that problem problem would get worse (e.g. it would start dropping quickly from 40% rather than 30%) and would have to be resolved by recalibration.
  • The battery's controller was clearly not actively measuring the usable mAh capacity, because it stayed at the same value for a long time and then would drop precisely 5mAh every time another cycle was added to the tally. (Compare with an OEM battery, whose usable capacity fluctuates up and down constantly.)
The one positive to say is that if successfully working around all of the above, the battery did seem to provide a good amount of total usable capacity… it just wasn't very easy to use reliably. (By the time I realised its various flaws it was too late to request any help via the warranty, unfortunately.)

Anyway, fed up with all of those niggles and having read a number of good reports here and elsewhere about 2-Power batteries, I decided to try one of those recently, ordering from Duracell Direct. Sadly, there's no great news to report from that either. The plastic casing is identical to the NewerTech, the battery still exhibits the same behaviour around the 10–30% mark, and the mAh reporting is still untrustworthy. It does die gracefully however, so that's something. It is also, interestingly, much lighter (by about 100g!) than the OEM and NewerTech batteries, so maybe it's made with newer, lighter-weight cells similar to more modern laptops.

I have decided to give 2-Power another chance though, by requesting an RMA and a replacement – partly because being in the UK, this seems to be the easiest recognisable brand to obtain on an ongoing basis. Duracell Direct have been very apologetic and seem keen for me to have a properly working battery (which I will define as being one that drops from 100% to 0% evenly and consistently without much throttling), so we'll see how my next go on the battery lottery plays out. If it's still not satisfactory I'll request my money back and try one of the other battery brands f54da's research highlighted.

Finally before everyone's completely bored to sleep, I'll add that I've produced a very rudimentary shell script which I run in Mac OS X Recovery to calibrate and test/log the battery's performance whilst calibrating. It works by cycling between a few seconds of a simple single-core CPU process (a specific number of iterations of ‘echo y > /dev/null’) and several more seconds of idling, timing how long it takes to do this for each cycle so it's possible to see when throttling has kicked in (because the time to do the ‘echo y’ CPU work increases). These are the results for the three batteries in my possession:

BrandPurchasedManufacturedCapacityFull perf. timeThrottled timeTotal time
Apple2016201685%4h 26m0h 17m4h 43m
NewerTech2022202094%4h 13m1h 18m5h 31m
2-Power20252024102%4h 11m1h 09m5h 20m
2-Power20252024102%4h 47m0h 38m5h 25m

So the battery providing the longest unthrottled performance is… the 9-year-old OEM battery!!

Edited 2025-04-29 to add manufactured dates, and results from second 2-Power battery.
 
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Unfortunately (or fortunately, if you will), you can 'get' just about anything from Teh AMZN.
But caution, sometimes the stuff you get from Teh AMZN is actually drop shipped at a premium off of Teh eBay and often what you buy off of Teh eBay actually was drop shipped with an upcharge via Teh AMZN Prime.

That was more fun to type than I’d like to admit.
 
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and all of that is ultimately just sourced from aliexpress anyway, may as well cut out the middleman if you can wait a few weeks for shipping
 
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But caution, sometimes the stuff you get from Teh AMZN is actually drop shipped at a premium off of Teh eBay and often what you buy off of Teh eBay actually was drop shipped with an upcharge via Teh AMZN Prime.

That was more fun to type than I’d like to admit.

:)

I remember a few times where I was attempting to secure a very niche part, and had been looking on the Bay . . . only to notice the same item marked-up even more from other Bay sellers, and--to a lesser degree--the Princess.

Have been able to get some stupendously-niche pieces from Ali; mostly without U/L, etc.

The + for AMZN is the generous return process.

The - for AMZN is that it's AMZN.
 
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