MP All Models PCIe SSDs - NVMe & AHCI

[RegalTrini]

First time. It's a 8x card, so it's not the best fit for a M5,1 with 4 blades. (around 3000Mbps divided by 4 blades)

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Same hardware different firmware to provide RAID booting for PCs/Linux, useless with a Mac.

Ahh.. thanks Alex. I know the latest hardware isn’t always the greatest, but that 7101a isn’t coming down much.

I also saw this but it seems it’s still in early development: http://squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-nest-x2g/

Would the intel QLC blades work with the big point? Right now they are under $400 for a 2TB SSD blade.

 

[tsialex]

Ahh.. thanks Alex. I know the latest hardware isn’t always the greatest, but that 7101a isn’t coming down much.

I also saw this but it seems it’s still in early development: http://squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-nest-x2g/

It's better to stick with the already confirmed working ones unless you can return, Mac Pro PCIe 2.0 slot limits severely with what you can choose.

Would the intel QLC blades work with the big point? Right now they are under $400 for a 2TB SSD blade.

No one here tested yet, should work.

 

[parisinvest]

First time. It's a 8x card, so it's not the best fit for a M5,1 with 4 blades. (around 3000Mbps divided by 4 blades)

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Same hardware different firmware to provide RAID booting for PCs/Linux, useless with a Mac.

so you mean even with a ahci ssd, the highpoint 7101A wont boot a mac pro? what about a raid 0? coult it boot a mac? many thanks

 

[tsialex]

so you mean even with a ahci ssd, the highpoint 7101A wont boot a mac pro? what about a raid 0? coult it boot a mac? many thanks

Please don't mix things - I'm not talking about SSD7101-A, I'm talking about SSD7102.

No software RAID card can boot a Mac post HighSierra. With any PLX card( SSD7101-A, SSD7102, Squid) you can use one blade for boot, the three other blades for a data RAID volume.

 

[parisinvest]

Please don't mix things - I'm not talking about SSD7101-A, I'm talking about SSD7102.

No software RAID card can boot a Mac post HighSierra. With any PLX card( SSD7101-A, SSD7102, Squid) you can use one blade for boot, the three other blades for a data RAID volume.

hi alex thank you for your reply, i've learn it from my mac pro raid 0, high sierra cant boot it, but if i understand your answer: the highpoint 7101a can boot with one single ahci on mac pro, while other three nvme (no ahci version possible?) on raid 0, am i right?

 

[vasuvasu]

How’s the compatibility with the HP EX920? It’s slightly cheaper than the 970 EVO. Both are close to $200 now in 1TB capacity. Curious if the 970 will go under $200 soon. It’s at $227.99 right now after a continuous price decline.

I saw a 1TB HP EX920 on eBay for $179.99 and couldn't pass it up for that price, so I can let you know on Monday when it arrives.

HP EX920 installed and is fully compatible. Just installed 10.14.1 on it and migrated from off a Sandisk Extreme SSD onto it. TRIM seems to work out of the box.

 

[tsialex]

HP EX920 installed and is fully compatible. Just installed 10.14.1 on it and migrated from off a Sandisk Extreme SSD onto it. TRIM seems to work out of the box.

If you cloned, the trim force setting keeps between disks. You have to do a totally clean install to check if the SSD has native Apple TRIM support.

Btw, thx for the report, please add any working SSD into the first post.

 

[vasuvasu]

If you cloned, the trim force setting keeps between disks. You have to do a totally clean install to check if the SSD has native Apple TRIM support.

Btw, thx for the report, please add into the first post.

I did a clean install and then used Migration Assistant to migrate my user account over. That screenshot is from before I did the install on it and just wanted to check it out real quick before doing anything with it.

I don't see a temperature sensor from it in Macs Fan Control, so I can't report on heat or how well the Angelbird Wings PX1 is working with it, unless there's some other way to get temperature?

 

[tsialex]

I did a clean install and then used Migration Assistant to migrate my user account over. That screenshot is from before I did the install on it and just wanted to check it out real quick before doing anything with it.

I don't see a temperature sensor from it in Macs Fan Control, so I can't report on heat or how well the Angelbird Wings PX1 is working with it, unless there's some other way to get temperature?

Some SSDs don't show temperature in a way that the usual Mac apps can read. My SM951-AHCI + Wings PX1 shows into iStat:

Try DriveDX, usually it gets temp from anything.
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hi alex thank you for your reply, i've learn it from my mac pro raid 0, high sierra cant boot it, but if i understand your answer: the highpoint 7101a can boot with one single ahci on mac pro, while other three nvme (no ahci version possible?) on raid 0, am i right?

After BootROM 140.0.0.0.0, NVMe and AHCI are the same, no difference whatsoever for booting. To use any PLX 4-blade adaptor, one of the blades has to be out of the RAID volume if you want to boot, the three others can make a data RAID volume.

High Sierra only supports booting from RAID if the volume is HFS+, Mojave don't support RAID booting whatsoever.

 

[Pval]

maybe expensive.

Pretty sure it'll be expensive; it's their design, not sourced as far as I can see.
EDT is a subsidiary of Heico, which descibes itself as : engaged primarily in certain niche segments of the aviation, defense, space, and electronics industries.

 

[h9826790]

Some SSDs don't show temperature in a way that the usual Mac apps can read. My SM951-AHCI + Wings PX1 shows into iStat:

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Try DriveDX, usually it gets temp from anything.
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After BootROM 140.0.0.0.0, NVMe and AHCI are the same, no difference whatsoever for booting. To use any PLX 4-blade adaptor, one of the blades has to be out of the RAID volume if you want to boot, the three others can make a data RAID volume.

High Sierra only supports booting from RAID if the volume is HFS+, Mojave don't support RAID booting whatsoever.

iStat's "Monitor SMART drives" may disable all other software (including the OS) to access SMART status.

If that SSD temperature didn't show on iStat, and can't be accessed by any other software, try disable iStat's SMART monitoring.

 

[RegalTrini]

Looks like it has a switch so it could be OK they want a lot of personal information to get a quote. . maybe expensive.

It is...almost a $600 device. It’s only an 8x card as it was what their customer requested.

Now if we can get a hardware RAID card with PCIe switching that supports 4 blades...Kickstarter any body?

By the way, newegg has the Intel 660p series 1TB QLC blades for $159.

 

[tsialex]

It is...almost a $600 device. It’s only an 8x card as it was what their customer requested.

Now if we can get a hardware RAID card with PCIe switching that supports 4 blades...Kickstarter any body?

By the way, newegg has the Intel 660p series 1TB QLC blades for $159.

Honestly, it will be a lot more cost effective to just buy SSD7101-A and use one of the four blades as a boot drive and the 3 others as a RAID data/scratch disk. It will be even faster…

 

[RegalTrini]

Honestly, it will be a lot more cost effective to just buy SSD7101-A and use one of the four blades as a boot drive and the 3 others as a RAID data/scratch disk. It will be even faster…

Hmmm.....so about $400 for the card and either $600 for 4TB (or a grand for 8TB)....that would be a screamer.

And if the new Mac Pro has PCIE slots, it could be transferred over!!!

 

[tsialex]

Hmmm.....so about $400 for the card and either $600 for 4TB (or a grand for 8TB)....that would be a screamer.

And if the new Mac Pro has PCIE slots, it could be transferred over!!!

Search on eBay, I bought mine last month for $285, another user here bought a week earlier than me for $280.

 

[ZombiePhysicist]

Search on eBay, I bought mine last month for $285, another user here bought a week earlier than me for $280.

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What do you think the chances are of raiding the 4 sticks together and having that be bootable are? I've been doing that for years with this msata card/setup:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/bootable-4tb-ssd-on-classic-mac-pro.1842707/

 

[tsialex]

What do you think the chances are of raiding the 4 sticks together and having that be bootable are? I've been doing that for years with this msata card/setup:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/bootable-4tb-ssd-on-classic-mac-pro.1842707/

With Mojave, zero until Apple implements APFS RAID. Works with 10.13.6/HFS+

 

[startergo]

Has anybody tried this card:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-M-2-P...h=item3b20331570:g:CPUAAOSwcbRbzCCs:rk:1:pf:0
@tsialex what do you think? I am really sorry for my 7102.
[doublepost=1542211724][/doublepost]Never mind I think it is IO Crest IO-PCE2824-TM2 (aka Syba SI-PEX40129)

 

[Pval]

Has anybody tried this card:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-M-2-P...h=item3b20331570:g:CPUAAOSwcbRbzCCs:rk:1:pf:0
@tsialex what do you think? I am really sorry for my 7102.

That’s the IOCrest, look at the pictures.

 

[ericj2109]

Clean install of 10.14.1 with a 480GB ADATA XPG SX8200 with a super-generic $4 adapter from Aliexpress in slot 4. Don't think I have the ability to add to the first post.

 

[startergo]

Clean install of 10.14.1 with a 480GB ADATA XPG SX8200 with a super-generic $4 adapter from Aliexpress in slot 4. Don't think I have the ability to add to the first post.

Are there any dual cards (adapters) of similar type?

 

[kmns]

On AliExpress I saw x16 card for $4 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New...-M-Key-Interface-For-Windows/32917164778.html this is that card? Interesting, through it can skip more than 1500mbs?

 

[tsialex]

On AliExpress I saw x16 card for $4 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New...-M-Key-Interface-For-Windows/32917164778.html this is that card? Interesting, through it can skip more than 1500mbs?

To go past 1500MB/s the card needs a PCIe switch to convert PCIe 2.0 x16 into PCIe 3.0 x4.

This card that you linked is just a adapter, so tops at 1500MB/s.

 

[startergo]

To go past 1500MB/s the card needs a PCIe switch to convert PCIe 2.0 x16 into PCIe 3.0 x4.

This card that you linked is just a adapter, so tops at 1500MB/s.

If I can find a cheap dual adapter I may get one until highpoint makes the drivers for OSX for 7102

 

[tsialex]

If I can find a cheap dual adapter I may get one until highpoint makes the drivers for OSX for 7102

There no such thing, every card with PCIe switch starts around $200.

Any card that don’t have a PCIe switch needs bifurcation and don’t work with a Mac Pro.