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stillcrazyman

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A nice place to relax....
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mollyc

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How about this one ?

I think this one is better than the first one. That bit of dark earth on the right side of the frame helps to delineate the edge of the trunk. Unfortunately as the trunk curves to the back and left away from the water, it starts to blend in to the ground more. Have you tried burning some of the shadows of the top of the trunk to give it more texture and sharpness? That might help.
 

MacRy

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How about this one ?

I think the biggest problem is the depth of field. You aren’t getting any separation from the background and it being in black and white isn’t helping that. The other issue is the focal point of the photo. Is it the stump or is it the view. If it’s the view then the stump needs to be less prominent in the foreground. As it is the stump is too in your face and dominates the shot.

You can try and recover it in post but it’s best to get it right in camera first.
 

akash.nu

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I think this one is better than the first one. That bit of dark earth on the right side of the frame helps to delineate the edge of the trunk. Unfortunately as the trunk curves to the back and left away from the water, it starts to blend in to the ground more. Have you tried burning some of the shadows of the top of the trunk to give it more texture and sharpness? That might help.

Very good idea. I’ll give that a go actually. Thanks.

I think the biggest problem is the depth of field. You aren’t getting any separation from the background and it being in black and white isn’t helping that. The other issue is the focal point of the photo. Is it the stump or is it the view. If it’s the view then the stump needs to be less prominent in the foreground.

You can try and recover it in post but it’s best to get it right in camera first.

I agree. Not good enough depth of field is killing it. Let’s see what I can do with editing it a bit more.

Much better IMO.
[doublepost=1523561011][/doublepost]Another from Wales.

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Thank you I’m gonna edit it a bit more. Let’s see where I get to.
 

MacRy

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A long road to the castle. This is a castle wall at Dumfries House. Thought the long long path out to it was too far but looked good as a leading line in a picture.

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Like the leading line. If it was me I’d crop out the white square at the front as it’s distracting. Also crop to put the castle in the centre of the shot.
 
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Apple fanboy

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Very good idea. I’ll give that a go actually. Thanks.



I agree. Not good enough depth of field is killing it. Let’s see what I can do with editing it a bit more.



Thank you I’m gonna edit it a bit more. Let’s see where I get to.
How about seeing it in colour. Might help. For landscape photography (general rule), I find less is more when it comes to PP. getting it right in camera is the key. (Btw I'm still trying to do that!)
 
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MacRy

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Very good idea. I’ll give that a go actually. Thanks.



I agree. Not good enough depth of field is killing it. Let’s see what I can do with editing it a bit more.



Thank you I’m gonna edit it a bit more. Let’s see where I get to.

Sometimes you just have to accept that editing isn’t going to make up for the shortcomings of the composition. I don’t mean that to sound harsh, but composition is key in photography and if you nail that part you won’t have to do much editing.

At the start of my photographic journey I thought that if I could edit the **** out of my photos then they would look amazing - but it turned out I was trying to polish a turd most of the time and I should have been concentrating on the composition and lighting.

My advice to you would be to think about what you could have done better compositionally in that instance and use that knowledge to make it work in the future. There is no shame in conceding that it hasn’t worked....it’s what makes us better photographers.

I hope that this post doesn’t offend/upset you. It is from a genuine place and it was comments like this, from people on this forum that helped me to improve.
 

Apple fanboy

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Sometimes you just have to accept that editing isn’t going to make up for the shortcomings of the composition. I don’t mean that to sound harsh, but composition is key in photography and if you nail that part you won’t have to do much editing.

At the start of my photographic journey I thought that if I could edit the **** out of my photos then they would look amazing - but it turned out I was trying to polish a turd most of the time and I should have been concentrating on the composition and lighting.

My advice to you would be to think about what you could have done better compositionally in that instance and use that knowledge to make it work in the future. There is no shame in conceding that it hasn’t worked....it’s what makes us better photographers.

I hope that this post doesn’t offend/upset you. It is from a genuine place and it was comments like this, from people on this forum that helped me to improve.
Learning what makes a good photo beyond the rules is hard for me. Some people pick up seeing an image much easier than others.
I also don't get enough practice!
 

MacRy

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Learning what makes a good photo beyond the rules is hard for me. Some people pick up seeing an image much easier than others.
I also don't get enough practice!

That’s the key though isn’t it - practice. I also don’t get enough of it and particularly with our current spectacular UK Spring in full effect. A tree in my garden looks beautiful at the moment in full blossom.....I can just about make it out through the drizzle and fog.
 
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Apple fanboy

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That’s the key though isn’t it - practice. I also don’t get enough of it and particularly with our current spectacular UK Spring in full effect. A tree in my garden looks beautiful at the moment in full blossom.....I can just about make it out through the drizzle and fog.
Our poor magnolia's floweres came out looking drowned and brown on the edges! We had terrible drizzle and fog all day today. And you need a pair of waders if you plan to walk off the paths.
 

MacRy

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Our poor magnolia's floweres came out looking drowned and brown on the edges! We had terrible drizzle and fog all day today. And you need a pair of waders if you plan to walk off the paths.

It’s been like that for the last three days here. Bloody miserable.

It’s no fun having a dog to walk every day at the moment. He gets a bath twice a day at the minute.
 

akash.nu

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Sometimes you just have to accept that editing isn’t going to make up for the shortcomings of the composition. I don’t mean that to sound harsh, but composition is key in photography and if you nail that part you won’t have to do much editing.

At the start of my photographic journey I thought that if I could edit the **** out of my photos then they would look amazing - but it turned out I was trying to polish a turd most of the time and I should have been concentrating on the composition and lighting.

My advice to you would be to think about what you could have done better compositionally in that instance and use that knowledge to make it work in the future. There is no shame in conceding that it hasn’t worked....it’s what makes us better photographers.

I hope that this post doesn’t offend/upset you. It is from a genuine place and it was comments like this, from people on this forum that helped me to improve.

Not at all. Thanks very much for your feedback.
 
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georgeinnj

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How about this one
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Adding my two cents to the discussion. What I do with my landscape shots is to take multiple shots of a scene but change the angle, focal point or landscape/portrait mode to catch different views of a scene. For your shot I would have probably shifted the view point up and to the left a bit to make the tree in the back ground the focal point. Another shot I would tried is to walk around the tree stump to the left and shoot from a lower angle so that the top of the tree stump is against the flat expanse of water which would have isolated the tree stump from a distracting back ground.
 
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