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If you ever have the chance to share your thoughts on this particular lens, I would greatly appreciate it. It was to be my next purchase,but I'm replacing my 360 QooCam 8K with the Ricoh Theta Z1 as a more pressing photographic purchase. The Laowa full-frame 9mm is next in line, but I have not had chance to hear from anyone using it as yet.

Overall, I am really liking it. It's a solid performer.

It has significant vignetting, even when stopped down. This isn't a major problem for me as I find it pleasing for most anything I would shoot with a 9mm lens. You can also correct for it in post. Hasn't been an issue in my shooting thus far.

There is some barrel distortion in the center, but it's actually more modest than I was expecting. To the point that you may or may not want to correct for it, depending on the subject.

There is obvious "stretching" around the edges of the frame. But again, expected for this focal length.

It can focus quite close. Not quite macro, but impressively close. For me, this is crucial for a 9mm lens since part of the creative usefulness for a 9mm lens is to still "fill the frame" with a subject but expand the background in interesting ways.

It's fairly sharp in the center and not too bad going out to the corners. Not my sharpest lens, but very, very acceptable.

There can be color shifts going from the center to the edges. Outdoors with a color sensor (i.e. my Z7) I haven't noticed them. Indoors they became a bit more obvious, but not horrible. Can be corrected in post with a little work if deemed necessary.

The lens works very well in IR. No hotspots, which was a huge surprise. It's going to find a prominent place with my Z6 IR as the combination of 9mm with IR is something I'm really enjoying playing with.

It's manual focus only, which isn't a huge deal. DOF is massive with a 9mm lens unless you are shooting something really close. Even then, this isn't a lens you will be using as a point-and-shoot for any close subjects. Composition with a 9mm lens is tricky enough that you will likely be taking your time when using it for any shots, whether handheld or on a tripod.

I think it is optically better in pretty much every way compared to my other Venus Optics Laowa lenses (12mm and 15mm). All of them are solidly built and this one is no exception. But this one is optically the best of the bunch.

9mm is a *very* niche focal length. While this lens is rectilinear and not a fisheye, it still has significant distortion because of the small focal length. It's *not* a good lens for either landscape or architectural photography if one is looking for no distortion. On the other hand, it offers some really amazing creative possibilities that no other lens on the market can. Whether that works or doesn't work for you and your type of photography is a different question.

But if you were already thinking about buying this lens, you likely understand the advantages and limits of a 9mm lens. So then I say, it's a good buy. I expect it will either meet or exceed your expectations.

As an aside, there is a LR profile for the lens offered on the Venus Optics website. It severely overcorrects the vignetting of the lens, but does correct for the barrel distortion. Still usable if you then adjust vignetting to taste in LR after applying the profile.

The only other (minor) annoyance is that it doesn't transmit lens information to the body for EXIF purposes. Not a deal-breaker, but mildly annoying ;).

Let me know if you have other questions about the lens (either in a public reply in this thread or via a PM).

Going to include another pic from last weekend's series as my pic for the day:

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sorry, I am breaking the one photo a day rule because not long after I posted my photo this morning, six of our caterpillars turned into chrysalises!!! It was so fun to watch. I did take a bunch of photos of them shedding the skin to reveal the chrysalis but I haven't looked at them yet and they were from behind the netting so I don't think many turned out well. But this one guy decided it was pretty lame to climb all the way up the tent just to hang from the ceiling, so he attached himself to one of the parsley stems that was on the ground. 😂 Ironically, he was the fourth or fifth one to hang but the first to go to chrysalis so we think he saved a bunch of energy not climbing! It was really cool to watch.

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sorry, I am breaking the one photo a day rule because not long after I posted my photo this morning, six of our caterpillars turned into chrysalises!!! It was so fun to watch. I did take a bunch of photos of them shedding the skin to reveal the chrysalis but I haven't looked at them yet and they were from behind the netting so I don't think many turned out well. But this one guy decided it was pretty lame to climb all the way up the tent just to hang from the ceiling, so he attached himself to one of the parsley stems that was on the ground. 😂 Ironically, he was the fourth or fifth one to hang but the first to go to chrysalis so we think he saved a bunch of energy not climbing! It was really cool to watch.

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Thanks for sharing the process. It’s pretty cool to watch this happen. Did yours shake a whole bunch as they started forming the chrysalis? I recall the swallowtails doing that. One even just said heck with it and transformed on the floor. He hatched out all the same.
 
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Thanks for sharing the process. It’s pretty cool to watch this happen. Did yours shake a whole bunch as they started forming the chrysalis? I recall the swallowtails doing that. One even just said heck with it and transformed on the floor. He hatched out all the same.
Yes they were quite active!
 
Overall, I am really liking it. It's a solid performer.

It has significant vignetting, even when stopped down. This isn't a major problem for me as I find it pleasing for most anything I would shoot with a 9mm lens. You can also correct for it in post. Hasn't been an issue in my shooting thus far.

There is some barrel distortion in the center, but it's actually more modest than I was expecting. To the point that you may or may not want to correct for it, depending on the subject.

There is obvious "stretching" around the edges of the frame. But again, expected for this focal length.

It can focus quite close. Not quite macro, but impressively close. For me, this is crucial for a 9mm lens since part of the creative usefulness for a 9mm lens is to still "fill the frame" with a subject but expand the background in interesting ways.

It's fairly sharp in the center and not too bad going out to the corners. Not my sharpest lens, but very, very acceptable.

There can be color shifts going from the center to the edges. Outdoors with a color sensor (i.e. my Z7) I haven't noticed them. Indoors they became a bit more obvious, but not horrible. Can be corrected in post with a little work if deemed necessary.

The lens works very well in IR. No hotspots, which was a huge surprise. It's going to find a prominent place with my Z6 IR as the combination of 9mm with IR is something I'm really enjoying playing with.

It's manual focus only, which isn't a huge deal. DOF is massive with a 9mm lens unless you are shooting something really close. Even then, this isn't a lens you will be using as a point-and-shoot for any close subjects. Composition with a 9mm lens is tricky enough that you will likely be taking your time when using it for any shots, whether handheld or on a tripod.

I think it is optically better in pretty much every way compared to my other Venus Optics Laowa lenses (12mm and 15mm). All of them are solidly built and this one is no exception. But this one is optically the best of the bunch.

9mm is a *very* niche focal length. While this lens is rectilinear and not a fisheye, it still has significant distortion because of the small focal length. It's *not* a good lens for either landscape or architectural photography if one is looking for no distortion. On the other hand, it offers some really amazing creative possibilities that no other lens on the market can. Whether that works or doesn't work for you and your type of photography is a different question.

But if you were already thinking about buying this lens, you likely understand the advantages and limits of a 9mm lens. So then I say, it's a good buy. I expect it will either meet or exceed your expectations.

As an aside, there is a LR profile for the lens offered on the Venus Optics website. It severely overcorrects the vignetting of the lens, but does correct for the barrel distortion. Still usable if you then adjust vignetting to taste in LR after applying the profile.

The only other (minor) annoyance is that it doesn't transmit lens information to the body for EXIF purposes. Not a deal-breaker, but mildly annoying ;).

Let me know if you have other questions about the lens (either in a public reply in this thread or via a PM).

Going to include another pic from last weekend's series as my pic for the day:

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I didn't get a chance to reply in thanks for your generous insights into using this lens yesterday, apologies for that, the best I could do at the time was to give it some 'Love'. 😊

That was a brilliant insight into its potential for my purposes, of relatively quick, but high quality 360 images of places and spaces. I am looking at the potential to capture six quick frames covering all directions, like a cube fashion of capture planes, if that makes sense? Applying fixes for distortion and vignetting as needed to successfully merge them in PTGui Pro for high definition VR viewing.

I have always been a sucker for an ultra-wide lens, since the purchase of my first with the Tokina 11-16mm for my APSC body camera many years ago. It was playing with that distorted view of reality as you have with this image of the pool which took my fancy. This lens will be a dual purpose one for me, the 360's and for further exploration of this sort of distorted and elongated point of view as part of my own personal explorations of place through photography.

It was interesting that you find it even better optically than your previous Venus lenses! I am in love with my Venus Laowa 7mm zero distortion lens when used on the Olympus E-M5 Mk II in the high resolution mode that pumps out images equal or better than many full frame cameras!

Thanks once again for the generous sharing, that is genuinely appreciated and apologies for the lateness of response to that effort made by you.

On a different note, I have been thoroughly enjoying your IR explorations, it is something I have never done myself, but have seen explored very nicely by others.

And now, one of the reasons I was unable to respond properly yesterday! I was busy having fun playing with the creation of creepy portraits at an abandoned nursing home, the lighting used here is just a simple pair of tiny portable Falconeyes F7 LED panels. The motion blur is captured in camera as a two second exposure, rather than being created in Photoshop.


Click through if the Exif interests you.
 
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You would not believe how long it took me to work out that the person behind them was not a weird hair thing going on! 😊

Trying to take a photo 1 handed while pouring coffee..

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A little tripod and a timer delay will do the trick next time. I too find it really hard to capture the steam coming out well in these sorts of shots, without inducing it in editing. Lovely set-up and nice light!

Standoff @ Alan Cooke Ground, Phuket

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Fujifilm X20: ISO 100, f 5.6 @ 1/800
I assume it was checking on whether the ball had been tampered with? Must have been some tricksy spins happening! 🤣
 
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I didn't get a chance to reply in thanks for your generous insights into using this lens yesterday, apologies for that, the best I could do at the time was to give it some 'Love'. 😊

That was a brilliant insight into its potential for my purposes, of relatively quick, but high quality 360 images of places and spaces. I am looking at the potential to capture six quick frames covering all directions, like a cube fashion of capture planes, if that makes sense? Applying fixes for distortion and vignetting as needed to successfully merge them in PTGui Pro for high definition VR viewing.

I have always been a sucker for an ultra-wide lens, since the purchase of my first with the Tokina 11-16mm for my APSC body camera many years ago. It was playing with that distorted view of reality as you have with this image of the pool which took my fancy. This lens will be a dual purpose one for me, the 360's and for further exploration of this sort of distorted and elongated point of view as part of my own personal explorations of place through photography.

It was interesting that you find it even better optically than your previous Venus lenses! I am in love with my Venus Laowa 7mm zero distortion lens when used on the Olympus E-M5 Mk II in the high resolution mode that pumps out images equal or better than many full frame cameras!

Thanks once again for the generous sharing, that is genuinely appreciated and apologies for the lateness of response to that effort made by you.

On a different note, I have been thoroughly enjoying your IR explorations, it is something I have never done myself, but have seen explored very nicely by others.

And now, one of the reasons I was unable to respond properly yesterday! I was busy having fun playing with the creation of creepy portraits at an abandoned nursing home, the lighting used here is just a simple pair of tiny portable Falconeyes F7 LED panels. The motion blur is captured in camera as a two second exposure, rather than being created in Photoshop.


Click through if the Exif interests you.
I’ve mentioned my love the the 9mm BCL before. It’s cheap, simple, so small it fits in any pocket you have, and it is a blast in the right situations. It makes you think creatively, especially in regard to the fisheye effect. The only downside is the F8–makes it not so effective indoors, but outside in good light, it‘s amazing how much detail it picks up for what it is. My iPhone XR lockscreen photo is one I took of my kids with that lens. :)

I’ve seen some great astrophotography with the Laowa 7.5mm F2.
 
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I’ve mentioned my love the the 9mm BCL before. It’s cheap, simple, so small it fits in any pocket you have, and it is a blast in the right situations. It makes you think creatively, especially in regard to the fisheye effect. The only downside is the F8–makes it not so effective indoors, but outside in good light, it‘s amazing how much detail it picks up for what it is. My iPhone XR lockscreen photo is one I took of my kids with that lens. :)

I’ve seen some great astrophotography with the Laowa 7.5mm F2.
That little 9mm pancake would be a fun lens too! I've never played with a fisheye lens before, one day I'll get one. Seriously? f/8 is the most open it gets? Wow!

I haven't tried the 7.5mm for Astro, I found the E-M5 MkII too noisy to use for anything above ISO 1600, with an expectation of clean imagery that is. I'm a fuss-pot, I know! I'll have to look at what it can do on a M43 body now.
 
That little 9mm pancake would be a fun lens too! I've never played with a fisheye lens before, one day I'll get one. Seriously? f/8 is the most open it gets? Wow!

I haven't tried the 7.5mm for Astro, I found the E-M5 MkII too noisy to use for anything above ISO 1600, with an expectation of clean imagery that is. I'm a fuss-pot, I know! I'll have to look at what it can do on a M43 body now.
F8 is ALL it does--it's all up to ISO and shutter speed, which honestly makes it a good practice lens for beginners. Manual focus, too. You have 3 positions, .2m, hyperfocal, and infinity. .2m is not all that practical, and the DOF is otherwise so wide that either one of the other focal positions should get the results you were looking for. You can actually get a decent indoor shot during the day by leaning on your IBIS and a low shutter speed.
 
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I didn't get a chance to reply in thanks for your generous insights into using this lens yesterday, apologies for that, the best I could do at the time was to give it some 'Love'. 😊

That was a brilliant insight into its potential for my purposes, of relatively quick, but high quality 360 images of places and spaces. I am looking at the potential to capture six quick frames covering all directions, like a cube fashion of capture planes, if that makes sense? Applying fixes for distortion and vignetting as needed to successfully merge them in PTGui Pro for high definition VR viewing.

I have always been a sucker for an ultra-wide lens, since the purchase of my first with the Tokina 11-16mm for my APSC body camera many years ago. It was playing with that distorted view of reality as you have with this image of the pool which took my fancy. This lens will be a dual purpose one for me, the 360's and for further exploration of this sort of distorted and elongated point of view as part of my own personal explorations of place through photography.

It was interesting that you find it even better optically than your previous Venus lenses! I am in love with my Venus Laowa 7mm zero distortion lens when used on the Olympus E-M5 Mk II in the high resolution mode that pumps out images equal or better than many full frame cameras!

Thanks once again for the generous sharing, that is genuinely appreciated and apologies for the lateness of response to that effort made by you.

On a different note, I have been thoroughly enjoying your IR explorations, it is something I have never done myself, but have seen explored very nicely by others.

And now, one of the reasons I was unable to respond properly yesterday! I was busy having fun playing with the creation of creepy portraits at an abandoned nursing home, the lighting used here is just a simple pair of tiny portable Falconeyes F7 LED panels. The motion blur is captured in camera as a two second exposure, rather than being created in Photoshop.


Click through if the Exif interests you.

No worries. This is actually the first time I've logged on since I posted, so I didn't even notice the delay ;).

I really like your posted image. Very compelling. Well done on all counts :).

I'll share one final image from last weekend with the 9mm and Z6 IR. Another from the backyard around the pool. Different view of the shed.

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