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ErikCLDR

macrumors 68000
Jan 14, 2007
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Regardless both names are ugly. Sorry to break it to you.

Do you think a Rover is a "pretty" car? :p

Do you go offroading?
On occasion. Nothing serious though. We also have pretty brutal winters up here in the hills of CT with a pretty bad snow removal department. The 4wd comes in handy.

im searching for my first rover.. anything i should look out for?

What model and what year?

There are many things you need to look out for. Lets start off with engines. Any Pre 03 Range rover or 04 or earlier Discovery has a Rover V8 engine derived from a 1960's buick motor. Both the RR and Disco are very similar vehicles. They're inefficient and loud. They tend to leak, a lot, especially over time. Head gaskets, valve covers, main seals, you name it, they can leak. Headgaskets obviously are the worse and although not common in every land rover, they are not unheard of. The cooling systems are pretty bad too. They leak as well, oil pumps in 03 discoveries are notorious for dying. Cooling system failure can also lead to destroying your engine. In these models door locks and windows are also pretty unreliable. They tend to break a lot. Electrical systems in general aren't great, especially in the pre 03 range rover which tends to have lots of computer issues. I would avoid any discovery with Air suspension (Range Rovers have it stock though many convert it to coil springs) because all it does is break. An air spring will leak, run the compressor to death, and then you have $900 in parts alone + labor + the $75 to clear the fault code. Power steering leaks are common in the Range Rover Classic and Discovery 1 (1994-1999). Sunroof leaks are pretty common too. Driveshafts and U-Joints are very likely to die too.

So yea, basically anything that can go wrong does go wrong. I will say that they have very good transmissions and A/C equipment. My parents have owned a 1963 Series IIa, a 1990 Range Rover Classic, a 2004 Discovery SE-7, and a 2007 Range Rover Sport HSE. I used to have a 1998 Discovery LSE but now I have a 2000 Discovery II. They're not reliable at all, but in my opinion they are the only remaining manufacturer of real SUVs (notice there are no 2wd Land Rovers being sold unlike jeep, toyota, etc). A 2wd SUV is as good as a station wagon, only the station wagon is probably better in the snow because it probably has FWD. LR has changed much from their original intention but still hold onto their heritage.

Let me know what year you're interested in and I can help you out a little more accurately.
 

mattcube64

macrumors 65816
May 21, 2006
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Missouri
ok there are some nice pieces of metal in here but how many OWN there cars and how many are on the finance drip :rolleyes:

I purchased my Monte Carlo when I turned 16 with cash.

I financed my 2006 Grand Prix last year. Funny, so far, I've been spending less money on monthly payments than I did on regular repairs for my old car. I did a four year loan, that way it's paid off by the time I'm out of college.
 

ErikCLDR

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Jan 14, 2007
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I own my car... well technically my parents. They don't make car payments on any cars.

I think its better just to buy the car outright. Less to worry about.
 

cplusON3R

macrumors regular
May 8, 2006
103
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Dirty Jersey
either apr or giac, both dealers are relatively close to me but I'm leaning towards apr for the adjustable programs through the cruise control stick. I was talking to the giac dealer though and he showed me a dyno of his 06 with just chip and a Evoms intake and he was pushing 230 hp / 250 lbs to the wheels which is pretty damn impressive.

Of course he's putting a K04 on there now with a custom r32 exhaust and all that fun stuff haha.

werd.. pretty much why I went with revo.. my friend is also my local revo dealer;)

oh yeah.. specs of the gti:
H&R coilovers spun all the way down
Revo stage2(custom mapping)
ATP down pipe
AWE cat-back
Custom painted Bronze 19x8 Radarwerks RS4 reps
euroswitch
Neuspeed intake
Forge spacer
Votex front lip
color match sideskirts/lower rear bumper skin
and a couple vag-com mods including disable DRLs, open/close windows/moon roof with keyfob, unlock all doors after key is removed from ignition, etc, etc..

I'd have to say the best purchase is the VAG-COM cable..
 

BOSS10L

macrumors 6502a
Jan 13, 2008
588
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Upstate NY
My current ride:
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Previous cars:
The one that got away... :(
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I don't miss this one so much...
141282.jpg
 

mBurns

macrumors 6502
Oct 3, 2006
357
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USA
Do you think a Rover is a "pretty" car? :p


On occasion. Nothing serious though. We also have pretty brutal winters up here in the hills of CT with a pretty bad snow removal department. The 4wd comes in handy.



What model and what year?

There are many things you need to look out for. Lets start off with engines. Any Pre 03 Range rover or 04 or earlier Discovery has a Rover V8 engine derived from a 1960's buick motor. Both the RR and Disco are very similar vehicles. They're inefficient and loud. They tend to leak, a lot, especially over time. Head gaskets, valve covers, main seals, you name it, they can leak. Headgaskets obviously are the worse and although not common in every land rover, they are not unheard of. The cooling systems are pretty bad too. They leak as well, oil pumps in 03 discoveries are notorious for dying. Cooling system failure can also lead to destroying your engine. In these models door locks and windows are also pretty unreliable. They tend to break a lot. Electrical systems in general aren't great, especially in the pre 03 range rover which tends to have lots of computer issues. I would avoid any discovery with Air suspension (Range Rovers have it stock though many convert it to coil springs) because all it does is break. An air spring will leak, run the compressor to death, and then you have $900 in parts alone + labor + the $75 to clear the fault code. Power steering leaks are common in the Range Rover Classic and Discovery 1 (1994-1999). Sunroof leaks are pretty common too. Driveshafts and U-Joints are very likely to die too.

So yea, basically anything that can go wrong does go wrong. I will say that they have very good transmissions and A/C equipment. My parents have owned a 1963 Series IIa, a 1990 Range Rover Classic, a 2004 Discovery SE-7, and a 2007 Range Rover Sport HSE. I used to have a 1998 Discovery LSE but now I have a 2000 Discovery II. They're not reliable at all, but in my opinion they are the only remaining manufacturer of real SUVs (notice there are no 2wd Land Rovers being sold unlike jeep, toyota, etc). A 2wd SUV is as good as a station wagon, only the station wagon is probably better in the snow because it probably has FWD. LR has changed much from their original intention but still hold onto their heritage.

Let me know what year you're interested in and I can help you out a little more accurately.

The 2002 Range Rover is a pretty reliable year other than the air bags.
 

ErikCLDR

macrumors 68000
Jan 14, 2007
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The 2002 Range Rover is a pretty reliable year other than the air bags.

The 2002 is probably the best year. I believe all of them have the 4.6L Bosch V8 and they have all wheel traction control. My friend dad used to have an 01 and so did my neighbor.

Common problems include
- Air suspension: Sensors, air bags, compressors, valve blocks, all really expensive to fix and if the car goes into a "hard fault" mode it basically makes the car un-drivable
- Airbag (SRS) faults
- Climate Control System: If there is a little book on the HVAC display it means there is something wrong- it can be anything as small as a relay to anything as big as a blend motor failure
- Heater Core O-Rings: If there is water in the passanger side footwell
- Mysterious Battery Drains
- BeCM Failure: Basically the computer which controls everything in the car, horrendously unreliable, very expensive to fix
- Broken Cruise control: Unusually cracked vacuum lines
- Heated seat filament breaks a lot
- Door lock failure, window regulators and ECUs

Like other rovers they are likely to leak something. Headgaskets are not out of the question. I know people that have blown head gaskets at 60,000 and people that have done it at 100 and 150,000. Driveshafts need to be replaced around 90,000 miles otherwise the front one can break off and hit the transmission. All fluids need to be regularly checked. A Range Rover is no Honda. Oh yea, check to make sure there is no water in the spare tire compartment.

2002 is still probably the best year though for the p38 style.
 

ColeSear

Cancelled
Sep 27, 2006
118
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I have not picture of my car, but this one looks like mine.
It's an old Nissan Sunny 1.4 from 1991.
It still drives, but I don't know for how long it will...
 

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JMG

macrumors 6502a
May 4, 2006
554
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ok there are some nice pieces of metal in here but how many OWN there cars and how many are on the finance drip :rolleyes:

Well I'm not leasing my Audi S4, but I am buying it. In 5 years it will belong to me instead of the bank. :D Then I'll keep it as 1 of the only 250 S4 25quattro editions in the US. Maybe it might be a collector's item someday.
 

KatmanDu

macrumors member
May 16, 2007
39
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NE Georgia
ok there are some nice pieces of metal in here but how many OWN there cars and how many are on the finance drip :rolleyes:

Mustang is paid for, and the Bandit I traded was as well... while I'm financing the FJR, I expect to have it paid off long before the end of the loan term.
 

mithrilfox

macrumors regular
Nov 6, 2007
181
0
Japan
I selfishly decided that we should expand this thread to include other forms of transportation that we own and regularly use. Why? Because I don't have a car!

So, here's what I take out with me to get from place to place:
 

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