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I'd pick neither. Went for a Mac Pro, with matte displays of my choosing instead. Mobile image accuracy isn't too important to me, thankfully, and I'm sure those who need it will take matte, but... it's annoying that the unibody was clearly designed to be a glossy machine. As someone above said, when you're dropping $x,000 on a machine, form as well as function may be a factor in your purchase.

If someone wants a matte display that's fine, I have no issue with that. What I do find annoying is that it seems all those who want matte believe those who want glossy are wrong.

They are not, it's a personal preference. Matte is not inherently better. It takes a sharp defined glare and makes it a washed out overall glare. It does not eliminate glare, it just shows it differently.

And on a last note, matte is not more accurate than glossy. There are been comparisons in photography forums about comparing calibrated displays and the difference was negligible. Here's an article from a respected photographer with the glossy displays that finds them the best MBP displays yet from a color standpoint:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10041-10146
 
Glossy like on the plastic macbooks and other laptops are acceptable. The new type of super-glossy/glassy such as Dell SXPS 16 and UMBP are really just a nightmare for reflections, sit anywhere with a light source behind you and it's enough to piss anyone off.

I never thought glossy was too big of a deal albeit matte is better, but glassy is just annoying.
 
Did you just decide you wanted to be awkward? Are you for a second implying the new design looks anything like the matte MBP pre-unibody? The matte unibody was clearly just an afterthought.



Think:

if people found the Black bezel horrible ,

what are they going to think to Black bordered-Silver bezel with black keys? It's the most disjointed look I've ever seen. I can't believe it has an Apple logo on it. I dislike the new ACD and iMac for the same reasons, it's not "ridiculous" at all. They look bad to me. And thousands of others. 'Kay?

I'm trying to say that people seem to change their mind frequently for the sake of complaining. It's not as if this look is new. The MacBook Air has the same design and the Titanium Powerbook before that.

The same thing happened with the Unibody MacBook's removal of the Firewire port. So many people that bought that model complained that they absolutely needed it, so Apple added it back into the revised MacBook Pro, and those same people remarked on how the update was minor and they never even used Firewire so the addition was null. It's just cognitive dissonance.
 
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so the mockup in the previous pages is how the 15" antiglare 'mate' MBP will look.
 
I think the styling on the antiglare MBP is cool and different, but the whole of the frame of the screen should be be white, including the bezel and plastic hinge.
My friend has an antiglare 17" and he also has a small iMac keyboard, I have noticed ho good the antiglares would looks with a white keyboard instead of a black one, the black one just looks out of place. The white one looks sexy!

This crappy edit is trying to perceive what i am trying to get at:
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know what, it does look nice.
i do like my black/alu combo,
but a AG one with white keys would look nice.
i think if you really want one, you could replace the keys from the bluetooth keyboard..
 
I think the styling on the antiglare MBP is cool and different, but the whole of the frame of the screen should be be white, including the bezel and plastic hinge.
My friend has an antiglare 17" and he also has a small iMac keyboard, I have noticed ho good the antiglares would looks with a white keyboard instead of a black one, the black one just looks out of place. The white one looks sexy!

This crappy edit is trying to perceive what i am trying to get at:
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wow- that's a really nice edit IMO.
 
To anybody who calls ANY mbp "ugly", what would you call this then:

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Maybe "holy motherf***ing crap s*** out of hell what's that unproportional brick of an uber ugly behemoth"? :)

Obviously you can't compare a cheap laptop to a MBP that isn't the point. The point is you are paying good dollars plus some more good dollars to purchase matte, yet it doesn't look aesthetically pleasing to the eye. In fact the matte option looks like a design after thought.
 
Obviously you can't compare a cheap laptop to a MBP that isn't the point. The point is you are paying good dollars plus some more good dollars to purchase matte, yet it doesn't look aesthetically pleasing to the eye. In fact the matte option looks like a design after thought.

I wouldn't call ibm thinkpads "cheap". And to me the new matte mbps look more like form follows function like the glassy ones with their unusable screens.
 
Obviously you can't compare a cheap laptop to a MBP that isn't the point. The point is you are paying good dollars plus some more good dollars to purchase matte, yet it doesn't look aesthetically pleasing to the eye. In fact the matte option looks like a design after thought.

If I were to drop the IBM/Lenovo and the Unibody MBP from a meter high onto a hard floor I would expect the MBP to break/deform and the IBM to survive with only a few scratches.

I have a 13" MBP myself so I'm not some IBM/lenovo fanboy or something....my take is that Macs are designed with aesthetics in mind....the IBM's are more about durability and practicality

Comparing MBP's and Thinkpads is like comparing apples and oranges IMO.
 
IMHO Lenovo X200s or T400s look GREAT ;-)

I agree. The thinkpads don't look as flashy, but they're very utilitarian, no-fuss and fit for purpose. I'd prefer travelling with one of those than with my unibody any day, if it had os x...
 
What does it matter what colour the keys are, in the dark?:confused:

really....have you used a white light up keyboard before....there a nightmare because the light leaks everywhere.

makes sense to me. even the old silver ones are harder to see at night compared to the unibody ones.
 
really....have you used a white light up keyboard before....there a nightmare because the light leaks everywhere.

makes sense to me. even the old silver ones are harder to see at night compared to the unibody ones.

Complete and utter nonsense. A light blocking residue can be applied to the back of white/silver/whatever keys preventing light leaks.
 
That's typical of Apple: either to "accommodate" (can I accommodate your wallet ;):D) somebody's features (Spaces comes off the top of the mind ...)
Or enrage folks enough that a cottage industry sprungs up ...

The only problem I have with this in this context - anyone who'll think of offering HiRes screen replacements will fear to get burned ...

And you can certainly guarantee that Apple will adopt at least 1600+ pixel ≈15" wide screens ... one day.
It's only I'd have to wait for this day - for years :mad:
 
na, keys are black because they light up better with the backlight on in the dark.

Black are better than white in that they don't stain and show grease smudges as easily. The old white macbooks looked gross after a while, even if you washed them, compared with the black macbooks.

Its not a deal breaker for me, but I'm not a big fan of the chicklet style keys in any color. Much prefer the old silver keys which were much more ergonomic and better for typing on. Oh well, I'll take what I can get.

At least we have a screen option for the 15" again.
 
the glossy 17 looks just like the 15 only bigger. do you find the glossy 17 horrible too?

Yes I do, I think it's the silver bezel in general. I had never seen a AG MBP before, I didn't realize they designed them like this.

What the hell? When the MacBook Pro was redesigned a couple of months ago, everyone was complaining about how disgusting the black bezel and keys were, and now you're complaining about how hideous that silver bezel is.
You guys are ridiculous.

I wasn't one of them, I have always liked the black bezel and keys.

Y U C K !

Give me the matte screen; it is U S A B L E.

It is a matter of opinion whether the glossy is not U S A B L E.

If someone wants a matte display that's fine, I have no issue with that. What I do find annoying is that it seems all those who want matte believe those who want glossy are wrong.

They are not, it's a personal preference. Matte is not inherently better. It takes a sharp defined glare and makes it a washed out overall glare. It does not eliminate glare, it just shows it differently.

And on a last note, matte is not more accurate than glossy. There are been comparisons in photography forums about comparing calibrated displays and the difference was negligible. Here's an article from a respected photographer with the glossy displays that finds them the best MBP displays yet from a color standpoint:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10041-10146

Hit the nail on the head. I agree that anyone who went Matte seems to think the glossy users aren't professional or are idiots with a laptop that isn't usable (see above for an example).

Now what do you say to this ...
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What are you showing us?
 
What are you showing us?

That's two 15" MBPs...the one on the right is stock with the glass, the one on the left is modded by...damn...I forget the company, but it's an aftermarket matte screen. The bezel looks pretty horrible and it removes the "MacBook Pro" branding from the bottom of the bezel. I wonder if one of the reasons Apple brought back matte to the 15"s is so that there weren't too many of these things out there hurting their brand image.
 
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