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Pictures of NOT YOUR car (2011)
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Coming up to taking my test, looking at cars lately and fell in love with this as my first car, hopefully picking one up within the next few weeks
Coming up to taking my test, looking at cars lately and fell in love with this as my first car, hopefully picking one up within the next few weeks
Good luck getting insured on that.
After talking to the guy who brings them into the states i found out there is only 8 in the US total and when was shopping for the insurance for the vehicle ..
i made that comment about that fact and the gentlemen who was helping me goes that going to make it easly to find if they do try to steal it ..
I have made the original down payment and now i'm working on the final payment and it will be mine free and clear
I will going overseas for drivers training and testing out there training bike to learn how to drive the bike ..
He seriously has to worry about getting insured over a Corsa( it isn't the VXR version)?
The Corsa is about the size of the upcoming Chevy Sonic I believe and insurance companies in the US would love to have a teenager in a small low HP vehicle like that.
If you have to worry about getting insured over a Corsa( it doesn't even look like the VXR version), then there are bigger issues with the UK than I thought.
The Corsa is about the size of the upcoming Chevy Sonic I believe and insurance companies in the US would love to have a teenager in a small low HP vehicle like that.
They seriously are. In 2003, it cost me £1300 Third Party Only to insure myself on a 1989 Vauxhall Nova 1.2L (probably about 60bhp...). I can only imagine how bad it is now for 17/18 year olds now.
I am thankful that I live in the US! I don't believe my 252 HP Saturn Aura is expensive to insure. My friend told me his Pontiac G8 GT with a 6.0 liter V8 producing 361 HP is cheaper than his Pontiac G6 GTP with a 3.9 liter V6 making 240 HP to insure( thanks to GTP being a higher performance trim than GT was)!
Luckily I found a decent(ish) insurance quote, took a lot of shopping around but I managed to get the insurance down to £6372, and that's on my own policy and no other named drivers. I say decent because most others were £8500+, although £6000 is still an awful lot of money, especially at my age.
Oh god yes! Insurance over there in the United Kingdom is phenomenal. For a 2002 SEAT Ibiza(Mk3) 1.2 I received a quote for £5,872, which is roughly $9610 [USD]. A friend of mine (Who is 20 year of age) is driving about a 2007 Golf GTI, he pays £4800 per year for insurance.
In-case you was wondering, I'm 17
£6372 is roughly $10,000 [USD], so yeah an awful amount of money for such a small car.
I'm doing my Pass Plus too, which brought the price to £6372, otherwise it'll be an extra £700.
I'm pretty much in shock at that price still. I was paying £1000 for a 1997 Hyundai Coupe up until the end of April. 2 litre 16v and with the price you're paying for a Corsa, it makes me feel like a 125 would be so much cheaper! Are your parents helping you with this or have you been saving since you were 10?!
I hate insurers, they give ridiculously high quotes to anyone under 20, they believe that "we're the most dangerous on the roads". I'm buying the car, and parents are paying half the insurance.
Not really, I've found that some older drivers are terrible, and much worse than us.
YOU might have found that, but statistics tell a different story. Now what do you think is a more reliable source?
There is nothing worse than a 17 year old who has just made his license. Period.
YOU might have found that, but statistics tell a different story. Now what do you think is a more reliable source?
There is nothing worse than a 17 year old who has just made his license. Period.
Statistics, obviously. But, according to 'statistics' I'm going to drive about like a complete nutter- when I'm obviously not, as I've got buy the car myself, and cant afford to repair it if I ruin it, so like anyone with some common sense I'll drive sensibly.
The annoying thing is, older people are considered to be better drivers, which is clearly not the case- many pick up bad habits, which lowers their level of driving.
There's nothing worse than an older driver thinking he/she is better/right, because they've been driving longer.
Do you seriously believe what you've just said? You don't have to be a brain sergeant to realise that young, unexperienced (in both driving and their life) drivers are more likely to crash than older drivers. It's just the way it is and statistics (that analysed the actual annual crashes) prove this.
Grandma drives far more responsible than younger people. Probably not as good as she used to do, but certainly slower and more careful.
Believe me, in 10 years you'll think exactly as any other grown up does about young people's driving skills.
Yeah I do, but I agree that unexperienced drivers are more likely to crash. But some older drivers think that unnecessary overtaking, speeding and not paying attention(!) is fine. I don't know where you live, but in my area there are some terrible older drivers- for example an elderly woman crashed into our car because she "mistook accelerator for the brake"...
When I was driving in my first year, my grandma had gotten 6 points from speeding.
I'm 25 now and I've had exactly 0 penalty points on my license. I have been involved in one rtc, and the fault was with the other driver (a woman in her mid 40s).
However, from passing my driving test, I have never for one moment thought that I had nothing left to learn or no reason to stop driving fully responsibly. This carries on from my 18 months of riding a scooter before I started to drive. Despite only having a top speed of 50mph downhill, with a wind behind me, I had to be far more careful and had to concentrate more than is required behind a wheel of a car.
I think it's closed minded to think poorly of young drivers. It's much better to think poorly of EVERY SINGLE person on the road. Think about that middle aged man in his MX5 running a red light. Think about that elderly man in his Rover 75 speeding up the M1. Think about that kid in his Corsa trying to impress his mates. I know I'm not a perfect driver, I know that I have to learn plenty more, but also remember that it doesn't matter how old other people are, don't assume they will see you or see your indicators, don't assume that their indicators to turn right actually mean they will.
My dad isn't a brain sergeant yet, but he's a Police Officer and has done High Speed Pursuit training. Even he admits he isn't a perfect driver and makes mistakes sometimes, and he's nearly 50...
I'm 25 now and I've had exactly 0 penalty points on my license. I have been involved in one rtc, and the fault was with the other driver (a woman in her mid 40s).
However, from passing my driving test, I have never for one moment thought that I had nothing left to learn or no reason to stop driving fully responsibly. This carries on from my 18 months of riding a scooter before I started to drive. Despite only having a top speed of 50mph downhill, with a wind behind me, I had to be far more careful and had to concentrate more than is required behind a wheel of a car.
I think it's closed minded to think poorly of young drivers. It's much better to think poorly of EVERY SINGLE person on the road. Think about that middle aged man in his MX5 running a red light. Think about that elderly man in his Rover 75 speeding up the M1. Think about that kid in his Corsa trying to impress his mates. I know I'm not a perfect driver, I know that I have to learn plenty more, but also remember that it doesn't matter how old other people are, don't assume they will see you or see your indicators, don't assume that their indicators to turn right actually mean they will.
My dad isn't a brain sergeant yet, but he's a Police Officer and has done High Speed Pursuit training. Even he admits he isn't a perfect driver and makes mistakes sometimes, and he's nearly 50...
YOU might have found that, but statistics tell a different story. Now what do you think is a more reliable source?
There is nothing worse than a 17 year old who has just made his license. Period.
I do have a hard time believing statistics these days. They say that women are safer than men. But, when I am out on the road if someones tries to crash into me, it's a woman texting or doing something stupid.
Seriously, save your money. Find a car that you can insure for less than £2000 and use that for a few years. That would save you more than the cost of the car in just 2 years!
Everyone ends up scratching up their first car a little on some street furniture (or someone else's car!), so go for something you don't mind getting some knocks on. For my first two years of driving I had a 1.2 Polo (55bhp) and that was plenty to get started with. I sold it with a scratch all down the left hand side and some bumper damage on the front (my work car park is really tight!) but I didn't really care because I bought the car knowing that would probably happen. You don't want that to happen to your pride and joy!
Two and a bit years on I have upgraded to an Audi A3 2.0 TDI and the insurance is reasonably sensible (still a bit steep at £1400) now that I have some no claims to my name.
As for the older drivers argument. I can safely say that any bad habits that I have picked up since my test are massively outweighed by the experience I have gained.
