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Cryates

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When you look at the Note 9, it makes the Pixel 3 XL's 4GB of RAM and 64GB of starting storage look downright cheap.

What will the Pixel 3 XL be priced at? If it's the same as last year's, it'll cost $950 to bump it up to 128GB to match the Note 9's default storage at $999.

I don't foresee the 3 XL being cheaper than last year's. If anything, it might be more expensive. If you factor in all goodies that the Note 9 has, including the S-Pen, headphone jack, dual cameras (both with OIS and one with dual aperture), larger battery, more RAM, more storage (with expandable storage, too)... the Pixel 3 XL is going to feel like a ripoff.

I don't know why Google is being so frugal about their specs.
And it's even worse when you look at the OnePlus 6 pricing, which should be the Pixel.
 

michael9891

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6.7" seems quite a bit bigger than what we were expecting. Best part of an inch will be the notch area.
 

Cryates

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6.7" is venturing into a territory of absurb. And to beat it, it won't even be fully bezeless. It'll still have a relatively large chin!
 
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https://www.droid-life.com/2018/08/10/pixel-3-xl-shows-up-in-a-fresh-5-minute-hands-on-video/

All of that blurring, and then the IMEI is visible on the box label at 4:16. Major fail.
[doublepost=1533950802][/doublepost]Something else interesting: In that video at 4:16, you can see the name "Nelit 3" at the top left of the box.

In the other video where you can see the user guide, this same name is visible. I don't know if it's what the Pixel has previously been referred to in some country, but I can't find any reference to that when searching Google.

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michael9891

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Maybe I shouldn't be too judgemental on a phone that's not had it's reveal and full list of features yet but it's not looking great for the XL. I've had no problems with slowdowns on my 2 XL but plenty of people have. So 4gb seems tight on the ram. And that notch is far too deep, especially as the bottom is still big.

The Pixel camera is what swayed me from my Note 8 which I absolutely loved. I'm interested to see how good the dual front cameras are on the Pixel. And while it seems disappointing to still have a single rear lens when lots are offering double or even triple lenses, I'm sure they'll be improvements over the Pixel 2.

I've been tempted by the Note 9 on the upgrade program because I found the Note 8 a little better than Pixel in almost every way aside from the camera. But it's probably too much to spend to have (in my opinion) a lesser quality camera than what I have. Which is the feature I value the most. Samsung front cameras always lack detail compared to iPhones / Pixels.
 

epicrayban

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Huawei:

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How could Google not have done better with the front of the 3 XL.
 
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Cryates

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My best guess is they are prioritizing some really good stereo speaker behind the panel, rather than trying to slim the notch.
 
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Ralfi

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My best guess is they are prioritizing some really good stereo speaker behind the panel, rather than trying to slim the notch.
I wonder how the market is divided between needing class-leading(?) front-firing stereo speakers or a sleeker design (smaller bezels/notch, with one front-firing speaker & one bottom-firing speaker)??

It's not like having a stereo setup with one front-firing speaker & one bottom-firing speaker sound awful - many other phones have proven this. My X sounds great, though I don't use the phone like that, often, so my vote to my above question is a resounding yay to sleek design.
 
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jamezr

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I wonder how the market is divided between needing class-leading(?) front-firing stereo speakers or a sleeker design (smaller bezels/notch, with one front-firing speaker & one bottom-firing speaker)??

It's not like having a stereo setup with one front-firing speaker & one bottom-firing speaker sound awful - many other phones have proven this. My X sounds great, though I don't use the phone like that, often, so my vote to my above question is a resounding yay to sleek design.
Historically the Nexus/Pixel line have had volume issues though. I would rather have a front firing speakers and give up a little in size.
Same could be said about battery and thickness. I would rather have a thicker phone if it meant it came with a 4000 mAh battery.

I would rather have function over thinner smaller phones
 
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michael9891

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I'd be very surprised if the Pixel XL is released with amazing sounding speakers which justify other design (in my opinion) flaws.
 

akash.nu

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Historically the Nexus/Pixel line have had volume issues though. I would rather have a front firing speakers and give up a little in size.
Same could be said about battery and thickness. I would rather have a thicker phone if it meant it came with a 4000 mAh battery.

I would rather have function over thinner smaller phones

By function do you mean just battery life?
 
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akash.nu

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Not just battery life. That was just one example. I wouldn't mid a very slightly long phone to accommodate front speakers as well.

I guess it comes down to user research. Apple must’ve got user testing data to decide what to keep and what to remove.
 

jamezr

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I guess it comes down to user research. Apple must’ve got user testing data to decide what to keep and what to remove.
are you sure? I do not think for a moment that Apple polls users on what features to add or keep. I mean can you say headphone jack? Or TouchID?
 

akash.nu

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are you sure? I do not think for a moment that Apple polls users on what features to add or keep. I mean can you say headphone jack? Or TouchID?

It’s not normal poll as such. Any new feature / implementations generally is done on the basis of data and Apple has their ways of doing A B testing. It can be highly secretive internal project based of some statistical data or communicating with certain group of people. Every company does it.
 

jamezr

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Every company does it differently. But I would suggest that they did not ask users which they preferred. I have seen polls on various forums that would suggest most users would prefer TouchID over FaceID and would like the headphone jack back......
I think Apple makes some decision on purely design interests.
 

epicrayban

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The dual speakers on the Pixel 2 basically suck.

If Google is going to insist on front firing speakers for the 3 at the expense of a more sensible design aesthetic, they better be well improved speakers.
 
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Harthag

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I find it very funny that Google is a giant software / advertising / marketing / analytics company yet - completely - misses the mark on what people actually want out of a phone. I'm not even talking about the whiteness of Android Pie, which is baffling to me. Spying on and tracking consumer behavior is all Google does. How are they so out of touch?
 

Ralfi

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The dual speakers on the Pixel 2 basically suck.

If Google is going to insist on front firing speakers for the 3 at the expense of a more sensible design aesthetic, they better be well improved speakers.

I would rather have function over thinner smaller phones

Just so I'm making things clear, I wasn't meaning form over function. By 'sleek' ie. Smaller bezels, function's gained by having more screen real estate to work with, & if they took it further, perhaps a smaller device.

So, either Google place front firing speakers with a smaller screen as priority, or they make more efficient use of the visual component of the device, which I'm saying is the more important functional feature for more people.

Basically sound v screen size (& hence form factor size).
 
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Blaze4G

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Every company does it differently. But I would suggest that they did not ask users which they preferred. I have seen polls on various forums that would suggest most users would prefer TouchID over FaceID and would like the headphone jack back......
I think Apple makes some decision on purely design interests.
I think you meant financial interest. Headphone Jack got removed so they sell more airpods. Add wireless charging and upsell fast chargers. Remove MacBook ports and upsell dongles.
 
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Michael Goff

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I think you meant financial interest. Headphone Jack got removed so they sell more airpods. Add wireless charging and upsell fast chargers. Remove MacBook ports and upsell dongles.

Why do people keep pushing that narrative that Apple designed their phone around selling AirPods that they could barely make at launch?

Edit: And blaming Apple for the shortcomings of USB C is laughable
 
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Curious if I will want to upgrade my Pixel 2 this year. Still love my device, and the prospect of having a curved screen, Face detection, and some of the other new rumored features don't really interest me. I have actually started to like some of the lower end Android phones a bit more over these flagships.

Will have to wait and see.
 
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