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Pixel 3/Pixel 3 XL
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I think there is a lot of truth in that...... It is just to obvious to ignore or defend.
As I mentioned, sometimes these things aren’t as straightforward as asking people if they like one technology vs other.
In various focus groups people get asked questions that reveal things like usability, preferences without them actually mentioning anything. Such things are part of UX design and psychology plays a big part in them.
I can agree that Apple makes some decisions themselves but these are not decisions made in a whim without any data to back them up.
You said it, google is a SOFTWARE company. Hardware business is very different and it requires specific specialty in terms of manufacturing and management of supply chain and market research. Lately only Apple and Samsung are really even at a competing level. Every other manufacturer is way behind in terms of profit and scale of the business
Well I firmly believe that Apple strategically planned to remove the headphone jack because it would increase airpods sales. Cock blame them? No they are a business.
It's not a coincidence that the airpods was released around the same time period as the iPhone 7. Not everything goes smooth. Not because they could barely make it at launch make it untrue.
You don't think Apple wanted to release their wireless charger the same time as the iPhone X? Not all things goes as plans when it comes to business.
You’re right. Apple did make a strategic business decision but I think alongside the sells of AirPods they also saw this as an opportunity to push the industry forward towards a wireless future.
We will probably never know if sells or the future was their driving force behind inventing the AirPods but I say they came up with a perfect solution to the problem of removing the headphones. AirPods remains as one of Apple’s best innovations. More than the Apple Watch for me.
I think they removed the port because of internal space being at a premium. And no, I'm not referring to thickness.
I don't think it was just AirPods...they have a whole line of Beats products wired (lightning port) and Bluetooth headphones that benefit from that business move,
This guy added a headphone jack to a iPhone 7
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/07/iphone-7-modded-headphone-jack/
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So....what problem was that? What problem was solved by removing the headphone jack as you say?
Does it solve the problem of charging your phone while listening to to music through lightning headphones?
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Has there been no clue to any face unlock feature in the Pixel 3? Any leaked software code or anything like that?
I hope the two front cameras aren't just for selfies...
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Yep.
I think choosing front firing speakers over a better screen experience is a mistake.
I hope the two front cameras aren't just for selfies...
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Yep.
I think choosing front firing speakers over a better screen experience is a mistake.
It solves the problem of having to deal with wires on person. The charging while listening to music is a very small / lower priority use case and to push the industry forward sometimes businesses take such steps. Have you noticed since iPhone 7 the quality of wireless headphones have drastically improved at a lower cost?!
Face unlock on the pixel 3XL would be great and maybe that's why that gigantic notch is there to?
Again...it supposedly fixed a problem that did not exist......
Eliminated a feature and did not replace it with another better feature. It was to spur accessories sales....
That problem might not exist for YOU but plenty others are happy with it. Especially when as a whole the wireless industry has started producing better headphones for cheaper.
But in all fairness YOU said it solved a problem...yet you haven't listed one problem removing the headphone jack solved..... It actually creates problems like charging while listening to music. Can't say to make it thinner or smaller. because there are a LOT of phones that are small and thin that have a headphone jack. It was a move to spur accessories from a company Apple owns.
Then we are completely off topic in the Pixel 3 thread. Sorry everyone!
Cannot really disagree with this sentiment with maybe one additional element.
I’d heard one ‘hypothesis’ made somewhere online or in a podcast that Apple originally planned to omit the headphone jack from the X because space was much more at a premium in that design but to avoid having the narrative be about the removal of the headphone jack on the X instead of the great new design, Apple decided to move it up a year early and remove it first from the 7 models.
But quite clearly, a by product of removing it was spurred wireless headphone sales, not coincidentally products Apple sell 5 different version of. And I also don’t appreciate Apple’s ******** explanations for the move. That probably pissed people off more than the actual change. Just be upfront and stop treating your customers like we’re morons.
Finally, in an admittedly weak effort to bring it all the way back to the upcoming Pixels, I find it equally irritating that so many companies, including Google, just fell in lock step behind Apple with this change, simply because Apple did it.
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Whatever reason Apple wants to say for removing the headphone jack, Google didn't need to follow. If Apple wanted to, they could have easily pushed bluetooth technology simply by releasing the Air Pods and making them really good, which they seem to have done. That alone would have brought about more bluetooth competition without the need to sacrifice the headphone jack and inconveniencing people and dropping audiophiles in the dust.
Wireless charging didn't require the need for the removal of the charging port, and wireless charging accessories have still gotten cheaper, more plentiful, and better.
In the case of the headphone jack, it's silly to think the only way to improve bluetooth technology and options is to remove the headphone jack. I'm sure that had an affect, but it didn't need to be this way.
And certainly Google didn't need to follow.
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Google's explanation is even worse. They say they actually upgraded the headphone port to USB-C for better quality audio. That's nice in principle, but where are the affordable USB-C earphones?
Only now are they rumored to include a pair in the box for the upcoming Pixel 3. How stupid and how cheap is Google? Now, they're skimping on storage and RAM even in the XL model.
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Wireless charging didn't require the need for the removal of the charging port, and wireless charging accessories have still gotten cheaper, more plentiful, and better.
In the case of the headphone jack, it's silly to think the only way to improve bluetooth technology and options is to remove the headphone jack. I'm sure that had an affect, but it didn't need to be this way.
And certainly Google didn't need to follow.
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Google's explanation is even worse. They say they actually upgraded the headphone port to USB-C for better quality audio. That's nice in principle, but where are the affordable USB-C earphones?
Only now are they rumored to include a pair in the box for the upcoming Pixel 3. How stupid and how cheap is Google? Now, they're skimping on storage and RAM even in the XL model.
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Yeah, the Pixel Buds look terrible. And the dongle is GARBAGE.
Pixel Buds 2... wonder how they'll improve.
Yes if we could all please return to saying how absolutely disgusted, appalled, sickened and down right offended we are with the Pixel line in general, and how Google is now the devil and doesn't deserve to make phones anymore, then I'd appreciate it.
We've only had about 40 pages of it so far, so less off topic, more hatred.
I'm pretty sure there's no need for a notch that big just to accommodate face unlock.
I didn’t buy the iPhone 7 thinking exactly the same thing about losing the 3.5mm jack but then I realised that the event of charging and listening to music at the same time is an event that doesn’t really occur much.
The problem being - fiddling around with wire - while out and about. This has been a significant cause of annoyance on more than one occasion. I think AirPods are awesome in terms of every concern I had with having to lose the 3.5mm jack.
It helped with water resistance and also propelled the wireless industry forward. You can’t deny that.
Yes if we could all please return to saying how absolutely disgusted, appalled, sickened and down right offended we are with the Pixel line in general, and how Google is now the devil and doesn't deserve to make phones anymore, then I'd appreciate it.
We've only had about 40 pages of it so far, so less off topic, more hatred.
I'm doing my part!
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Just pointing out:
The S8 and S9 had headphone jacks and were IP68 waterproof. You can still use bluetooth accessories to avoid wires with an S8, S9, OnePlus 6, and any other phone with a headphone jack and bluetooth technology. In fact, Samsung continues to use the latest bluetooth tech in their devices while still keeping the jack.
I'm doing my part!
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Understatement of the century!
Airpods etc. are a significant move forward.
I never wore corded earphones as much as I do Bluetooth ones.
They've been the most useful accessory to the smartphone that I can remember & helped introduce me to more music/podcasts ect. on the go since my 3GS.
I'm not on the same wavelength as those who still complain about the headphone jack, unless they've invested in a thousand dollar corded headphones that now require that flimsy adapter to work...but even so, they still work.
Sorry, I got sucked in again... thread's about the Pixel 3, not headphone jacks...