Pixel 3/Pixel 3 XL

[nospleen]

Uh, my ship date which was originally 25-26 is now 18-19.

I don't think Google sold many of these...

EDIT: I see many have posted the same.

Mine shipped yesterday, should be here Friday. I went black 3XL, but that white has me second guessing that decision.

 

[co.ag.2005]

Thanks, never knew that.

but the esim can only be used on Project Fi, but still helpful in scenarios like the OP mentioned

 

[epicrayban]

Well, Google did buy Motorola and brought him on when the did.

Yeah, I didn't realize it was the same fella specifically that took over Google's hardware division.

Nope. Even if Google had done everything perfectly (8gb of RAM, edge to edge screens with magical front facing stereo speakers, 4K video recording at 120 frames per second with Dolby atmos sound recording, yada yada) people on here would still be whining that Google screwed up because it didn’t come in a red color and that it costs $2000.

While it's true people will complain no matter what, it's also true Google has left open a lot of room for warranted criticism. Gestures really is a half-baked mess when compared to the clean and simple interface of iOS' gestures. And 4GB of RAM is a concern given what happened to some Pixel 2 XLs earlier this year -- again, we were told exactly the same thing, that 4GB of RAM is enough given Google's software optimization.

I'm not knocking Google just to knock them. Heck, I have a pre-ordered Pixel 3 coming my way. But there's also nothing wrong with being honest on where Google's shortcomings are, and more reviews need to do that so the message gets across to Google. They need to know, just like they needed to know last year that their screens weren't very good. Look what we got this year instead, Samsung panels that have now gotten A+ rating from Display Mate. These are the sorts of improvements we need to see Google make if they want to seriously compete in the premium flagship space.

I have no doubt the Pixel 3 will be great devices and I'll end up enjoying all that Google got right.
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It's hard to accept compromises such as poor memory management for $799. That's my biggest hang up. My S8 cost $520 when I got it during a promo last year. But it's slow and laggy with poor memory management, which is very annoying. For $799 I'd expect to no longer deal with memory management issues. It makes it feel like a lateral move in that regard. But I hate this edge screen and lag and really looked forward to moving away from stupid Samsung this year. I suppose I'll wait until people here start receiving their devices before I reconsider Pixel 3. If they'd just put 6GB in it this would be a no-brainer for me.

The concern over 4GB of RAM is absolutely warranted.

We'll deal with more app refreshes. Like I said, on my Pixel 2 currently, the App Switcher list is rather short, and even then, apps at the end of that short list still sometimes refresh. I know RAM is about keeping apps open and not necessarily OS speed, but apps requiring to refresh instead of being just ready to use is slower.

This isn't deal-breaking, as someone else mentioned. But what's frustrating is that this would have been such an easy solve. 6GB is already becoming standard especially in late 2018 Android flagships, especially at premium prices.

No question, Google made a mistake here.
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Mine shipped yesterday, should be here Friday. I went black 3XL, but that white has me second guessing that decision.

It's a tough choice this year between the black and white! I saw them both in person, and the black looks GREAT in person. The two-tone is far more subtle than it appears in photos/videos (maybe it's due to the bright lighting when they film?).

White photographs better, but is far more "bland" looking in person.

I ultimately went white, but I really dig the black. Plus, the black looks sleeker when viewing from the front -- a clean black slab.

I don't think you'll regret your decision.

My delivery date is this Friday also. It moved up an entire week.

 

[840quadra]

I never understood why people get so caught up on app refreshes. Processors and NAND flash aren’t as slow now as they were back in the G1 and iPhone 3g days. The wait is minimal.

If the app isn’t active, I don’t want it using wired memory as it will also suck down battery power I want for other things.

I also want the RAM to be free if the application I am using might need to burst into using more for a task. Even if my device has 10 GB of RAM, I would want it to dump active states to flash.

 

[epicrayban]

Wait, did anyone else also get their $50 promo credit already?

I thought this wasn't coming until 4-6 weeks after shipment?

 

[Zackmd1]

Mine had a date of 24-25 delivery. Just got the email this morning that it will be delivered tomorrow by end of day. Pixel 3 Just black 64GB. No credit yet.

 

[epicrayban]

I wonder why all our shipments moved up, some by nearly a full week.

Poor sales? Better supply chain?

 

[slopokdave]

Uh, my ship date which was originally 25-26 is now 18-19.

I don't think Google sold many of these...

EDIT: I see many have posted the same.

Phones ship faster than expected = sales must be low
Phones ship on-time/later than expected = google doesn't know how supply-chain works.

Rawr.

 

[noobinator]

I wonder why all our shipments moved up, some by nearly a full week.

Poor sales? Better supply chain?

I'd say poor sales unfortunately. It will be interesting to see where the pixel line goes once the competition catches up with Google's machine learning for photos (they are almost caught up already in the iPhone). I feel like the pixel line might go the route of the nexus line and disappear and then Google will come up with a new name and focus on hardware.

 

[nospleen]

Wait, did anyone else also get their $50 promo credit already?

I thought this wasn't coming until 4-6 weeks after shipment?

I haven’t seen anything. How can I check?

 

[epicrayban]

Phones ship faster than expected = sales must be low
Phones ship on-time/later than expected = google doesn't know how supply-chain works.

Rawr.

I think this is a fair question to wonder about given many of our ship dates moved up by nearly a week out of the blue. Not like Google has a history of great Pixel sales.

I hope it's because of a better supply-chain. It could be a combination of both.

 

[Zackmd1]

I wonder why all our shipments moved up, some by nearly a full week.

Poor sales? Better supply chain?

Well in reality my device only shipped a day early. The 24-25 delivery estimate was due to sticking with free shipping and the weekend in between the ship date. So you can't just look at delivery dates a week early and say it's due to poor sales. I think Google just overestimated delivery times for orders so people wouldn't get upset if their device slipped to a later date.

 

[epicrayban]

I'd say poor sales unfortunately. It will be interesting to see where the pixel line goes once the competition catches up with Google's machine learning for photos (they are almost caught up already in the iPhone). I feel like the pixel line might go the route of the nexus line and disappear and then Google will come up with a new name and focus on hardware.

But that's already what the Pixel line is/supposed to be.

 

[noobinator]

But that's already what the Pixel line is/supposed to be.

Very true, they just are failing. They need to hire someone else to lead the design team.

 

[epicrayban]

This is looking like a pretty accurate review description: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-xl-review-911391/

Google Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL review:
The Android iPhone


It really feels like the "Android iPhone" more than ever before. It checks off the important core elements, has higher prices, and has specs that are just good enough.

The Android iPhone, indeed.

 

[BoxerGT2.5]

Mine shipped yesterday, should be here Friday. I went black 3XL, but that white has me second guessing that decision.

I was in the same boat. Looking at the reviews a handful stated the back scratches up really easily on the matte glass, white has to show a lot less of that then the black I would think.

 

[Lobwedgephil]

Mine is out for delivery today, but has signature required, so won't get it today unless Fedex comes late like they usually do.

 

[epicrayban]

Verge review of the USB earbuds: https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/17/17988574/google-pixel-usb-c-earbuds-review-assistant-headphones

GOOGLE PIXEL USB-C EARBUDS REVIEW: MORE THAN OKAY GOOGLE
Healing the wound left by the removal of the headphone jack

 

[raqball]

Very true, they just are failing. They need to hire someone else to lead the design team.

I saw something on youtube recently that while kind of a conspiracy theory made a bit of sense...

In a nutshell... Google bought HTC design team so they have 2.. One was tasked with designing the Pixel 3 and the other with the Pixel 3 XL. The phones were leaked intentionally by Google to get reaction to the designs.

One team will be fired (assumed the XL team - LOL) and the other will stay on and design the Pixel 4 and 4 XL...

Conspiracy theory and bogus? Maybe......

Edit to add here is the video:

 

[epicrayban]

Google details how its Titan M chip makes the Pixel 3 so secure

https://9to5google.com/2018/10/17/titan-m-pixel-3-security/




[doublepost=1539800488][/doublepost]Gizmodo's review of the Pixel 3 models say there is a rather large screen disparity between the two models.

https://gizmodo.com/google-pixel-3-review-the-other-way-to-make-a-killer-p-1829749807

With the inclusion of a new dual-cam system in front, Google clearly understands the value of having multiple cameras, and yet the camera in back doesn’t get any extra help. That’s frustrating because even though the Pixel’s Super Res Zoom feature is fine, it’s still not as good as a real 2x optical lens. There’s also a small concern regarding quality control because after turning them on for the first time, I noticed that the Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL’s OLED screens featured noticeably different color temperatures, which only gets worse the more off-center you are.

This concerns me a great deal.

Is there any confirmation that the smaller one is a Samsung panel?

 

[Ralfi]

and has specs that are just good enough.

Noticing a few "just good enough" summaries.

If you're asking such high end prices, "just good enough" doesn't cut it imo.

There are flaws inside (4GB RAM) & out (design) & when competing with many other Android phones, it doesn't look good.

 

[epicrayban]

Noticing a few "just good enough" summaries.

If you're asking such high end prices, "just good enough" doesn't cut it imo.

There are flaws inside (4GB RAM) & out (design) & when competing with many other Android phones, it doesn't look good.

Agreed.

If it weren't for the camera...

 

[Zackmd1]

Google details how its Titan M chip makes the Pixel 3 so secure

https://9to5google.com/2018/10/17/titan-m-pixel-3-security/




[doublepost=1539800488][/doublepost]Gizmodo's review of the Pixel 3 models say there is a rather large screen disparity between the two models.

https://gizmodo.com/google-pixel-3-review-the-other-way-to-make-a-killer-p-1829749807

With the inclusion of a new dual-cam system in front, Google clearly understands the value of having multiple cameras, and yet the camera in back doesn’t get any extra help. That’s frustrating because even though the Pixel’s Super Res Zoom feature is fine, it’s still not as good as a real 2x optical lens. There’s also a small concern regarding quality control because after turning them on for the first time, I noticed that the Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL’s OLED screens featured noticeably different color temperatures, which only gets worse the more off-center you are.

This concerns me a great deal.

Is there any confirmation that the smaller one is a Samsung panel?

Apparently the smaller 3 has different calibration profiles then the 3XL

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/9ou1dp/pixel_3_apparently_has_worse_screen/

That would explain the difference seen in the review. My Best buy display units do have a noticable difference between the 3 and 3XL. Both still looked excellent but the smaller 3 looked more saturated. What I didn't see was a noticeable difference in off angle viewing which would be a clear indication of a different panel supplier.

 

[slitherjef]

Anyone here that's ordered and waiting for delivery plan on installing Nova launcher to see if you can get rid of the gesture navigation?

I'm looking forward to hearing everyone here hands on thoughts on the device.

 

[co.ag.2005]

Google details how its Titan M chip makes the Pixel 3 so secure

https://9to5google.com/2018/10/17/titan-m-pixel-3-security/




[doublepost=1539800488][/doublepost]Gizmodo's review of the Pixel 3 models say there is a rather large screen disparity between the two models.

https://gizmodo.com/google-pixel-3-review-the-other-way-to-make-a-killer-p-1829749807

With the inclusion of a new dual-cam system in front, Google clearly understands the value of having multiple cameras, and yet the camera in back doesn’t get any extra help. That’s frustrating because even though the Pixel’s Super Res Zoom feature is fine, it’s still not as good as a real 2x optical lens. There’s also a small concern regarding quality control because after turning them on for the first time, I noticed that the Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL’s OLED screens featured noticeably different color temperatures, which only gets worse the more off-center you are.

This concerns me a great deal.

Is there any confirmation that the smaller one is a Samsung panel?

sadly, this is what I saw on the display units at Best Buy the other day. the P3XL had a gorgeous, flawless look to it in color and saturation (IMO) but the P3 had a slight pink hue across the whole display, similar to the pic in your post. Both were set to the same display setting I believe. Sample size = 1 for me but discouraging to say the least. Let's hope this phenomenon only affects a very small sample size