Far as I know, they are not forcing the gesture nav.... There is an option to turn it off in settings and go back to the 3 button nav.
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Far as I know, they are not forcing the gesture nav.... There is an option to turn it off in settings and go back to the 3 button nav.
All reports are saying that it's the only option. Not really a fan of the little pill at the bottom and all of that wasted screen space. Then there's that black bar that ends up at the bottom of the apps.
Google is starting to lose their way.
You posted the same thing over on Xda. It feels like you’re trying to justify the purchase to yourself. If you’re happy with the specs and reviews, then go for it. For some, the missteps make the price hard to swallow. I was looking forward to getting a Pixel 3 XL but I’ll probably pass now. If I’m going to spend 1k on a phone, I’d rather be sure the specs will make it future proof. 4gb just can’t ensure that. Pixel 2 owners from a year back are already seeing ram related issues.
Can't really speak to the pixel 3 yet but on my essential there is a setting to turn off "swipe up for home" which gives back the standard Android 3 button nav as in 8.1.
Yeah, non Google phones do have that option on Pie, but as far as the Pixel 3/3XL are concerned, I am almost certain that it's all or nothing. Of course, I could be wrong though.
I pre-ordered.
I'm giving away my Pixel 2 and want a Pixel camera with me. I mainly do photography so that is more important to me than video. If the rest goes well, then I'll sell my S9+.
As I've said before, the hardware is good enough. Really wish Google did better, but they should be great devices overall still.
Baby steps.
I got the regular in white, 128GB. Had a $50 dollar Google credit from something earlier and traded in my old iPhone 7. Will probably put the future $50 pre-order credit towards a Pixel Stand down the road.
I'm giving away my Pixel 2 and want a Pixel camera with me. I mainly do photography so that is more important to me than video. If the rest goes well, then I'll sell my S9+.
As I've said before, the hardware is good enough. Really wish Google did better, but they should be great devices overall still.
Baby steps.
I got the regular in white, 128GB. Had a $50 dollar Google credit from something earlier and traded in my old iPhone 7. Will probably put the future $50 pre-order credit towards a Pixel Stand down the road.
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4gb of ram is "sufficient" if you dont mind that the app you opened like 5 apps ago need to reload. it may take 2 secs more, so i wont call it a dealbreaker.
google runs a pretty aggressive cycle for software updates, so they can (and should) iterate and improve their gesture function. but who knows.
i am always amused by people who swoon over stock android. one big reason why reviewers like stock android is because they switch phone often, so stock android gives a consistent and familiar experience across phones. but for normal users, you have time to get used to the phone, and will be using it for at least a year. furthermore, there are launchers you can install, so stock android can be a factor, but definitely not an important one.
for the fast updates, i wonder how it project treble going. if that turns out well, this is another insignificant point.
ultimately, if you choose pixel 3, it will likely be for the camera and AI features.
google runs a pretty aggressive cycle for software updates, so they can (and should) iterate and improve their gesture function. but who knows.
i am always amused by people who swoon over stock android. one big reason why reviewers like stock android is because they switch phone often, so stock android gives a consistent and familiar experience across phones. but for normal users, you have time to get used to the phone, and will be using it for at least a year. furthermore, there are launchers you can install, so stock android can be a factor, but definitely not an important one.
for the fast updates, i wonder how it project treble going. if that turns out well, this is another insignificant point.
ultimately, if you choose pixel 3, it will likely be for the camera and AI features.
Why are you still purchasing the phone after posting so much about its issues? I'm just wondering.
Mine shipped today with delivery scheduled for tomorrow... I got the white non XL in 64GB size from Fi....
At the end of the day, for October 2018, I still think FOR ME, the Pixel 3 XL is the best phone out.
- Stock vanilla Android is my bread and butter OS. I go back to owning the Nexus-One when it was new, then waiting in line for the Nexus-S at launch. I just have a thing for stock Android, all other versions of Android just irritate me, or frustrate me.
- Updates first and quickly
- A+ rated display
- Best camera
- Wireless charging now
- IP68 rating is nice
- Phone can easily be rooted, mainly for the best ad blocking and Substratum themes
No other phone right now interests me. The Note 9 or S9+ ? Not at all, no way, Lagwiz still exists no matter what people say. The LG V40, yeah that's cool, but not a fan of the LG skin, and they suck at updates. iPhone XS Max looks super cool, a very beautifully built device, really liked it a lot, but man I hate iOS, and on the XS Max the OS looks out of place, dated like something from a decade ago. OnePlus 6T, yeah will be a great phone, but they always skimp somehow.
Is the Pixel 3 XL the best phone of 2018 ? NO, not at all. But for me a stock Android nerd, it's really the only option.
- Stock vanilla Android is my bread and butter OS. I go back to owning the Nexus-One when it was new, then waiting in line for the Nexus-S at launch. I just have a thing for stock Android, all other versions of Android just irritate me, or frustrate me.
- Updates first and quickly
- A+ rated display
- Best camera
- Wireless charging now
- IP68 rating is nice
- Phone can easily be rooted, mainly for the best ad blocking and Substratum themes
No other phone right now interests me. The Note 9 or S9+ ? Not at all, no way, Lagwiz still exists no matter what people say. The LG V40, yeah that's cool, but not a fan of the LG skin, and they suck at updates. iPhone XS Max looks super cool, a very beautifully built device, really liked it a lot, but man I hate iOS, and on the XS Max the OS looks out of place, dated like something from a decade ago. OnePlus 6T, yeah will be a great phone, but they always skimp somehow.
Is the Pixel 3 XL the best phone of 2018 ? NO, not at all. But for me a stock Android nerd, it's really the only option.
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Camera mainly.
I've also been wanting to move away from Samsung. I strongly prefer my Pixel 2 shots over my S9+ shots, and camera is usually a big deciding factor for me. Just been waiting for the rest of Google's hardware, and to a lesser extent, software to catch up. With an A+ Samsung panel, wireless charging, waterproofing that matches the S9+, and better speakers and refinements in design, the hardware, as I said earlier is good enough.
Plus, I am kind of tired of Samsung's software. Between using the PIxel 2 and S9+ over the past few months, I've been gradually favoring Pixel's Android version. It's finally got enough features that it's not so barebones anymore (a year ago, I would argue stock Android was too stock). Photos backup is a big factor in the software experience -- immediately backing up my photos full-res and having access to them anytime anywhere is fantastic. Call screening looks like a great feature, too.
There are other little things, but that's the gist.
Of course, none of this precludes me from criticizing Google honestly.
I do wish the list of complaints was shorter.
I don’t think anyone is saying the Pixel 3 XL is a bad device—it’s not black or white, all or nothing. I can only speak for myself but my issues are mainly with the coverage/reviews of the device. The sampling of reviews that I’ve read or video reviews that I’ve watch, mostly from the larger mainstream sites/channels are giving the Pixel the same treatment that the iPhone was often accused of receiving...glowing reviews that either dismiss shortcomings or outright apologise for them.
Historically, I prefer Google’s version of ‘stock’ Android and have been a fan of many of their phones. With only a couple exceptions, just about every Android phone I’ve owned has been either a Nexus or Pixel. If I’d been forced to use an Android phone as my daily driver the past few years, it certainly would’ve been a Pixel (which were my secondary phones). This year however, I don’t find either Pixel 3 model compelling. I don’t like their implementation of the notch, nor the video camera limitations and performance. But I don’t begrudge anyone else choosing it—it’s still a pretty damn good phone in most regards. You like most of what it offers—don’t apologize for liking it or let all of us tech ‘armchair quarterbacks’ dictate what you should use.
Are you guys aware Rick Osterloh, the current head of Google's hardware division, is the same hardware leader from Motorola?
Just thought that's interesting.
Just thought that's interesting.
Matias Duarte
https://www.theverge.com/2011/10/18/exclusive-matias-duarte-ice-cream-sandwich-galaxy-nexus
Is he still there ? He was a big part of Google's Android design team, and style. They brought him in to help create Ice Cream Sandwich. Matias had some funky designs and hip ideas.
https://www.theverge.com/2011/10/18/exclusive-matias-duarte-ice-cream-sandwich-galaxy-nexus
Is he still there ? He was a big part of Google's Android design team, and style. They brought him in to help create Ice Cream Sandwich. Matias had some funky designs and hip ideas.
Nope. Even if Google had done everything perfectly (8gb of RAM, edge to edge screens with magical front facing stereo speakers, 4K video recording at 120 frames per second with Dolby atmos sound recording, yada yada) people on here would still be whining that Google screwed up because it didn’t come in a red color and that it costs $2000.
I find it hilarious. Never mind that comparable phones cost several hundred dollars more and offer the same or less specs.
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Well, Google did buy Motorola and brought him on when the did.
My take on this whole fretting over the Pixel 3/XL plusses and minuses issue is this; order it if you can, and, if you're not satisfied with it in any way, send it back.
You have 15 days.
Don't worry too much over specs or the the opinions of others. Give it a try. If it does the job and you're satisfied - keep it.
If it doesn't meet expectations in any way, send 'er back.
Simple.
For myself I'm prepared to be a little forgiving of shortcomings if they're not to major. After all, where I live the Pixel 3 XL is like $400 Canadian less than an equivalent iPhone XS Max.
You have 15 days.
Don't worry too much over specs or the the opinions of others. Give it a try. If it does the job and you're satisfied - keep it.
If it doesn't meet expectations in any way, send 'er back.
Simple.
For myself I'm prepared to be a little forgiving of shortcomings if they're not to major. After all, where I live the Pixel 3 XL is like $400 Canadian less than an equivalent iPhone XS Max.
Great advice...this happens for every new phone. People love to criticize the new phone. Some who you know will never get the phone anyway will point out flaws and anything negative. Some want to throw shade to justify their own choices.
Some just like to complain......
At the end of the day...there are no perfect smartphones. They all come with compromises.
I'm sure they all will get the job done.
Send it back if you don't like it....
Remember the phone you hate so much is someone else's dream come true.
Try to be a little aware......
My order originally stated delivery Oct 22- 24, this morning it says Scheduled delivery: Wednesday 10/17/2018 by end of day
Awesome, Tig.
Mine won't arrive till November. Hopefully the 3XL works out for you!
It's hard to accept compromises such as poor memory management for $799. That's my biggest hang up. My S8 cost $520 when I got it during a promo last year. But it's slow and laggy with poor memory management, which is very annoying. For $799 I'd expect to no longer deal with memory management issues. It makes it feel like a lateral move in that regard. But I hate this edge screen and lag and really looked forward to moving away from stupid Samsung this year. I suppose I'll wait until people here start receiving their devices before I reconsider Pixel 3. If they'd just put 6GB in it this would be a no-brainer for me.
Mine comes in today, but I am at the airport to fly out to Saint Louis this morning right now.
Looking forward to returning home on Saturday now even more!
Looking forward to returning home on Saturday now even more!
Im always behind, all you guys getting the 3 and I just bought an XL 2. I would have still been using the XL 1 but got such a good deal on the 2 is the only reason, the 1 was still a great phone and camera
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Have you ever been? If you have some free time I recommend the zoo and Grant's Farm, both are free and pretty niceMine comes in today, but I am at the airport to fly out to Saint Louis this morning right now.
Looking forward to returning home on Saturday now even more!
I don’t think the delta between cameras is that significant for any flagship phone that came out in the past 3 years. That said, I like comparing them still.
It’s sad that minutiae makes such great headlines for photo quality. Video quality on the other hand, still is something these phones appear to lack!
Been to STL once a year since 2009, but never really have time to explore. Never even been to the arch!
Uh, my ship date which was originally 25-26 is now 18-19.
I don't think Google sold many of these...
EDIT: I see many have posted the same.
I don't think Google sold many of these...
EDIT: I see many have posted the same.