Give it a rest and let us enjoy our machines the way we want.Replace Monterey with Mojave (DosDude1 installer + patch, or OCLP) carbon-copy-cloned to an HFS+ partition, and it'll run considerably faster and be compatible with faster 32bit software.
Give it a rest and let us enjoy our machines the way we want.Replace Monterey with Mojave (DosDude1 installer + patch, or OCLP) carbon-copy-cloned to an HFS+ partition, and it'll run considerably faster and be compatible with faster 32bit software.
good for you and our planet!For the moment, I’m sort of fixated on all the plastic waste Nestle generate — and have the temerity to charge people for the water within — to fret over whether you’re using a Silicon Mac.![]()
good for you and our planet!
That is a shame in neslte and others, we dont need another plastic product since the polymers dont disintegrate, and i make an effort not to purchase certain or any plastics.
hopefully a research lab outside Madrid is studying a maggot that eats plastic bags without emitting any harmful chloroformic waste that might help the plastic bag problem.
i can use my early intel mac now to gather research in this after i finish trying to figure out some Dreamweaver cs4 image functions.
Hello everyone.Nice! Those are fairly rare.
(This is what happens when I praise someone too soon....)
Replace Monterey with Mojave (DosDude1 installer + patch, or OCLP) carbon-copy-cloned to an HFS+ partition, and it'll run considerably faster and be compatible with faster 32bit software. Use Waterfox, Basilisk, and Chromium-legacy as Safari replacements.
So, I have questions…
Between yesterday and oh, about 10 mins ago, THIS appeared and I didn't see it!
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I'm talking about the Stormtrooper! It wasn't there when I went to bed last night! Between my 20 year old and my 16 year old, I'm betting the 16 year old knows something about this!
SMH!!!!!
TK421 is letting you know his radio transmitter is not working.
Apple ever get around to fixing the introduced "feature" in Monterey that borked 27" display monitors?Give it a rest and let us enjoy our machines the way we want.
The major limitation of OCLP is that, if used to install Catalina or higher, you are permanently denied the use of 32bit software, nearly all of which is much smaller and insanely faster than current, bloated, subscription-model suites. E.g., Photoshop CS6 Extended will launch in less than three seconds off a rotational drive in High Sierra on a vanilla i5 2011 iMac; such a machine would run like a slug using an APFS operating-system, meaning you'd risk tearing delicate ribbon cables opening the case to put in an SSD (and it'll still run only passably without 32bit goodies). Basically, it's a "pet trick" for old machines that professionals don't use...but non-professionals don't need bleeding-edge subscription software, so it's a trick in search of a niche. (Meanwhile, the ability to run unapproved older operating systems on newer hardware -- such as Mojave on intel-chip 2020 iMacs and 16" macbooks, goes unaddressed.) Half the time, you won't get hardware-acceleration enabled either.First of all, everyone is allowed to have an opinion. As long as it's not too radical. It wasn't😁.
Every Mac that can run the OCLP is also updated for me. Not always up to the highest MacOS (14.6.1) but always at least MacOS 12.7.6. All computers from 2010 onwards run very well and stable with MacOS. Another advantage is an up-to-date OS and a modern, up-to-date browser (Google Chrome).
The limitations of OCLP from my point of view are
- some apps require better/newer hardware
That's frankly terrible, and I suspect something has good wrong.. (If it's overheating struggling with that, I recommend MacsFanDisplay for all blackback and silverback iMacs, as well as Macbooks to 2015.)- the Mac needs some time to run (3-5 minutes). Then all Macs run very well and fast enough for me. It may be due to the fact that the ICloud pulls its updates in the time frame.
I'll just say that I don't need 32-bit apps. I get your justification, but it's a lot like the argument for running Tiger on PowerPC so you get access to Classic.The major limitation of OCLP is that, if used to install Catalina or higher, you are permanently denied the use of 32bit software, nearly all of which is much smaller and insanely faster than current, bloated, subscription-model suites. E.g., Photoshop CS6 Extended will launch in less than three seconds off a rotational drive in High Sierra on a vanilla i5 2011 iMac; such a machine would run like a slug using an APFS operating-system, meaning you'd risk tearing delicate ribbon cables opening the case to put in an SSD (and it'll still run only passably without 32bit goodies). Basically, it's a "per trick" for old machines that professionals don't use...but non-professionals don't need bleeding-edge subscription software, so it's a trick in search of a niche. (Meanwhile, the ability to run unapproved older operating systems on newer hardware -- such as Mojave on intel-chip 2020 iMacs and 16" macbooks, goes unaddressed.)
You'll also find it difficult if not impossible to create a portable, bootable backup of your operating-system; you'll only have Time Machine, or whatever weak-sauce variant CCC has been relegated to now.
As I suspected!!!So, I have questions…
Between yesterday and oh, about 10 mins ago, THIS appeared and I didn't see it!
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I'm talking about the Stormtrooper! It wasn't there when I went to bed last night! Between my 20 year old and my 16 year old, I'm betting the 16 year old knows something about this!
SMH!!!!!
The major limitation of OCLP is that, if used to install Catalina or higher, you are permanently denied the use of 32bit software, nearly all of which is much smaller and insanely faster than current, bloated, subscription-model suites.
E.g., Photoshop CS6 Extended will launch in less than three seconds off a rotational drive in High Sierra on a vanilla i5 2011 iMac; such a machine would run like a slug using an APFS operating-system, meaning you'd risk tearing delicate ribbon cables opening the case to put in an SSD (and it'll still run only passably without 32bit goodies). Basically, it's a "per trick" for old machines that professionals don't use...but non-professionals don't need bleeding-edge subscription software, so it's a trick in search of a niche. (Meanwhile, the ability to run unapproved older operating systems on newer hardware -- such as Mojave on intel-chip 2020 iMacs and 16" macbooks, goes unaddressed.)
You'll also find it difficult if not impossible to create a portable, bootable backup of your operating-system; you'll only have Time Machine, or whatever weak-sauce variant CCC has been relegated to now.
That's mostly an apples-and-oranges comparison; 1990s Macs really were limited in what they could do, while machines were clearly faster than humans at virtually everything by circa 2011, and only by artificially hobbling them with sluggifying "updates" could an OEM manage to prompt people to throw them out before hardware failure. Most software in its infancy in the 1990s was fully mature by the twentytens. E.g., Adobe CS6 debuted 22 years after Photoshop 1.0 launched. (You'd be surprised how little most core software has changed in the last ten years, with much of it being the same aside from new coats of paint requiring newer operating-system versions to launch, and/or online-account activation monetizing and meeple tracking.)While I don't hate 32-bit apps like I hate OS9/Classic,
As far as I know, my brother-in-law is still making a living doing layout on a G4 tower. (It's astonishing how little horsepower is needed when video-rendering isn't involved. I imagine hardware OEMs are a little miffed their customers aren't clamoring for 4K in quite the droves they'd hoped for, given that the average human eyeball can scarcely tell the difference betweek 2k and 4k.)there's really nothing I need them for. Office 2019, Adobe CC24, Vivaldi and some of my other apps work just fine on my Mac Pro. Admittedly, I have 56GB of ram to spare, I never shut my Mac down (full power 24/7, screens only allowed to sleep) and I rarely quit apps - so a 3-5 second app load time gain really isn't worth abandoning the features of running later apps for me.
I do consider myself to be a professional. At least, I get paid for the design and layout work I do. So I maintain a subscription because I want to. It makes it convenient to switch back and forth between my own Mac Pro and my work M2 MBP. But I don't actually NEED it.
Once upon a time, CarbonCopyCloner had one job: creating bootable backups. If they can't (or won't) do that anymore, then they should remove "copy" and cloner" from their name....my CCC backups are al sparse drive images and not sparse bundles. Perhaps it's sparse bundles you actually have the issue with, IDK. But that's a major reason I abandoned Time Machine for my backups. Pretty easy to move sparse drive images around, even on SMB shares.
I use a 2013 27" i7 w/32gb ram and a 512gb ssd just like you use yours: it's on 24/7, and I never quit things either. Office19 and Adobe20 run in Mojave, and any found-file that won't open in them will in LibreOffice24. One of these days I'll replace it with a same-spec'd 2019 i9, just so I can watch it wait for me faster.I suppose that if I were a normal person and only turned my Mac on when I needed it, quit apps when I was done with them and put speed above feature sets then I might be aligned with your thinking. But I'm not.
It's a very rare 2011 21.5" that has an i7.Here's the mid-2011 iMac 21.5".
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Running current Sonoma with OCLP. i7-2600S and 32GB RAM.
The two Orico USB 3 hubs are as follows: lower one plugged into the iMac USB bus to give front-mounted ports and a power-on indicator. Top one connected to ElGato Thunderbolt 2 dock to give USB 3 speed.
That's kind of my way, too.Every Mac that can run the OCLP is also updated for me. Not always up to the highest MacOS (14.6.1) but always at least MacOS 12.7.6. All computers from 2010 onwards run very well and stable with MacOS. Another advantage is an up-to-date OS and a modern, up-to-date browser (Google Chrome).
Yep, loosing the old-fashioned way of having a bootable clone-backup is the real downside of drinking the APFS-CoolAid.You'll also find it difficult if not impossible to create a portable, bootable backup of your operating-system; you'll only have Time Machine, or whatever weak-sauce variant CCC has been relegated to now.
Yep. It's my maximum install on any Mac between 2012-2019, and whatever earlier corner-cases (mainly Macboooks) will run the DosDude patch with hardware-acceleration and WiFi still working and have 8gb DDR3 ram or 4 with an SSD. Speaking of which, has the issue preventing hardware-acceleration from working in Mojave on stock/unmodified 2009-2011 "silverback" iMacs ever been resolved?That's kind of my way, too. Mojave (especially for 32bit-apps and speed) is still my mostly used macOS.
For me, the writing is on the wall: it's going to be one step forward, two steps back with each new hurry-up-schedule OS release. Too much functionality is lost, and monetization and telemetry snooping ramp up geometrically. The soul of Mac (the 32bit shareware ecosystem) is now dead, and what remains is a shambling simulacrum papering over an absense of utility with speed-going-nowhere, like an engine on the dyno.On unsupported Macs with DD1-patched Mojave I even stay with GUID/HFS+.
On the newer ones for the sake of OCLP I chose to migrate to APFS.
This is why I place zero faith in any system still taking updates. Perfect is the enemy of the good.With macOS11 and beyond one has to pretty start thinking different in behalf of backup-procedures, restores etc, especially when dealing with OCLP and unsupported-macOS, where in an instant both OCLP- and macOS- updates might render the whole system unbootable.
That volume space-sharing is a lovely feature, but nowhere near worth the price of having zero worthy drive-recovery utilities whatsoever. Why, a cynical person might be led to the conclusion that Apple was deliberately herding users toward a TimeMachine-on-the-cloud "solution" where the NSA could pick through everything at its leisure.I wouldn't blame CCC for the whole misery. It's still a life-saver to make fast backups of the (system-)volumes (and a lot of more tasks) despite the fragile option of a bootable-clone-backup like with HFS+.
(I always have an encrypted USB3-connected external SSD for plug&save my personal documents with CCC).
Restoring the System after fatal crashes mean currently, that I do reinstall macOS on new volume and migrate the old system-volume via MigrationAssistent. This has so far in all critical instances worked for me.
Because of the delicate stability of an OCLP/macOS-system I changed my routine of data-storage ad migrated all my personal files/folders to a separate volume "My Data" with only (cloud-)synched files stored on the System-Volume(s). So I can have Mojave/Monterey/Ventura-System-Volumes side by side on a multiboot machine with each system-volume having a reasonably small size. Admittedly file-movement between different volumes/partitions is always a bit awkward.
I work with recyclers, and every other old Mac that comes in (and get "saved" by me) has some new widget I haven't seen before.
For me, the writing is on the wall: it's going to be one step forward, two steps back with each new hurry-up-schedule OS release. Too much functionality is lost, and monetization and telemetry snooping ramp up geometrically. The soul of Mac (the 32bit shareware ecosystem) is now dead, and what remains is a shambling simulacrum papering over an absense of utility with speed-going-nowhere, like an engine on the dyno.
This is why I place zero faith in any system still taking updates. Perfect is the enemy of the good.
That volume space-sharing is a lovely feature, but nowhere near worth the price of having so worthy drive-recovery utilities whatsoever. Why, a cynical person might be led to the conclusion that Apple was deliberately herding users toward a TimeMachine-on-the-cloud "solution" where the NSA could pick through everything at its leisure.
My take is that this year is/will be different for everyone. But waiting for it to knock on your door will have you wait forever. For me, that year is a distant memory: it was 1999.Even if there will never be “a year of the Linux desktop” […]
My take is that this year is/will be different for everyone. But waiting for it to knock on your door will have you wait forever. For me, that year is a distant memory: it was 1999.
😄Stannum petasum-level.
Linux really is taking its jolly, sweet-ass time, innit? ...I've never seen so much wheel-spinning without appreciable forward progress.“It was a score and five years ago when that Linux came a‘knockin’ on the cabin door… I remember it was during a howler of a blizzard and we all were gettin’ the scurvy…”
Linux really is taking its jolly, sweet-ass time, innit? ...I've never seen so much wheel-spinning without appreciable forward progress.
The '11 i5s were largely trouble-free; the '11s that died were the top-end model 17" i7 MBPs and 27" i7 iMacs. The split-second Apple debuted MRT and Spotlight-indexing, they commenced cooking themselves to death.The fragility of the 2011 i5 iMac model
Compared to today's difficulties, running the OS off an external was pretty easy to do.is a statement on Apple's design choices rather than successive macOS releases because that means replacing a failed spinner just so that you can continue with High Sierra is equally problematic.
"No" right back atchya. They have not moved an inch forward when it comes to facilitating mass-adaptation.No. Linux is moving at the pace of people working together, many voluntarily, to create and maintain a sustainable product. It’s a realistic, organic, measured pace.
ddr is an excellent tool for very, very smart people like you and me, but the vast mass of humanity that various distros would ideally like to attract has no business being anywhere near a command-line utility capable of boot-drive obliteration.ddrescue can clone nearly everything - very easily and effectively.![]()