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Bose SoundLink around-ear wireless headphones II Black
Bose Headphones by John Pepp, on Flickr

I have them for a while and hang them under my desk. I like doing that for it's easy to put them away and they don't get in the way when not in use. They are non-noise cancelling headphones for I don't like to be totally voided of background noise.
 
They’re B&W’s wireless headphones. They look lovely don’t they?

Bowers & Wilkins PX Bluetooth Wireless Headphones, Noise Cancelling - Soft Gold https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0756XMGV1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_i_d1i5AbZ65E6Q1

Managed to try a pair of these on today in Selfridges and have to say I was a little disappointed. Not with the sound (that was as excellent as you’d expect from B&W) but the fit. I did not find them particularly comfortable. The cups were a little small for me. My Bose QC35’s are much more comfortable and so I’ll be keeping them and not buying the B&W’s.
 
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Managed to try a pair of these on today in Selfridges and have to say I was a little disappointed. Not with the sound (that was as excellent as you’d expect from B&W) but the fit. I did not find them particularly comfortable. The cups were a little small for me. My Bose QC35’s are much more comfortable and so I’ll be keeping them and not buying the B&W’s.

Thank you for sharing your impressions of the B&W PX; very interesting.
 
Caved in and got the new Studio Wireless 3 for the improved battery life, extended range and w1 chip (sold the studio 2). Also, I didn’t like the red color of the 2s.

Got a surprise with the new noise cancellation, it is way better than before.
 

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Monoprice Monolith M1060 with custom 3D printed grills (the honeycomb) for improved sound. These things have massive 106mm planar drivers. Really enjoying them right now.
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Enjoy.

I'd be interested in reading your feedback.
There's a massive thread on HeadFi and it's the general consensus that these punch well above their price range once you mod them. I found these on sale so I jumped on the opportunity.

I own the Fostex T40RP (mk3) and the planar drivers are half the size and they're closed back for the most part, 3 very tiny slits on each cup for the vents. Bass is more menacing with the M1060 but highs are a bit sharper which may turn some people off. Clarity and imaging are great as with most good planar magnetic headphones. Soundstage is wider and a overall sound is a bit more laid back with the T40RP (I did mod these as well, I can't help myself!).

I also received a loaner set of the HiFiMan Sundara. Those probably have the best looks and comfort out of the three but the sound style wasn't for me. Most narrow soundstage of the bunch and it had a veil/hollowness to it. Not terrible by any means but something that was quite apparent compared to my Fostex.
 
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Currently rocking Sony 1000XM2 bluetooth/wired headphones. Received them as an X-mas present and have been using them almost nonstop. They even sound better than my Bose QC35's. Even better noise cancellation than the bose's as well. View attachment 748789
I’ve just bought myself the same set and like you I’m really impressed with them.

Love the sound quality and the battery life.

I should add that this is my first set of quality headphones, but I’m really pleased I made the jump.
 
There's a massive thread on HeadFi and it's the general consensus that these punch well above their price range once you mod them. I found these on sale so I jumped on the opportunity.

I own the Fostex T40RP (mk3) and the planar drivers are half the size and they're closed back for the most part, 3 very tiny slits on each cup for the vents. Bass is more menacing with the M1060 but highs are a bit sharper which may turn some people off. Clarity and imaging are great as with most good planar magnetic headphones. Soundstage is wider and a overall sound is a bit more laid back with the T40RP (I did mod these as well, I can't help myself!).

I also received a loaner set of the HiFiMan Sundara. Those probably have the best looks and comfort out of the three but the sound style wasn't for me. Most narrow soundstage of the bunch and it had a veil/hollowness to it. Not terrible by any means but something that was quite apparent compared to my Fostex.

Nice, I've read the threads on several sites about the M1060s, including HeadFi.org, also been watching for a deal on some HiFiMan planar mags (maybe some HE-400s of some flavor).

My favorite "go to" phones are currently my DT-880s, great soundstage, plenty punchy bottom, bright but not to my ears overly so highs - I think the mid-range is really rich and detailed, which I find is lacking in a lot of phones. they're a 250ohm so they overwhelm my little headphone tube amp (and most analog out on computers and devices - I occasionally pull out some 558s for use with my extra iPhone 6S+). I'm currently running the 880s off the integrated headphone amp on a TEAC P650 CD player and it's surprisingly fantastic, though at some point I'll probably go with another headphone amp (maybe a Valhalla 2 or Cavalli).
 
I'm currently running the 880s off the integrated headphone amp on a TEAC P650 CD player and it's surprisingly fantastic, though at some point I'll probably go with another headphone amp (maybe a Valhalla 2 or Cavalli).

The M1060 are just 50 ohm but it pairs much better with my beefy Matrix HPA1 than my portable Topping NX1. The T40RP also will take all the power in the world lol.

Cavalli just released the Liquid Spark and Liquid Platinum ($99 and $699 respectively) on Monoprice's website. I forgot to keep an eye on them, now they're on backorder until October :eek:.

I've always wanted to grab a set of Beyers but I've been on a planar kick for the last few years.
 
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The M1060 are just 50 ohm but it pairs much better with my beefy Matrix HPA1 than my portable Topping NX1. The T40RP also will take all the power in the world lol.

Cavalli just released the Liquid Spark and Liquid Platinum ($99 and $699 respectively) on Monoprice's website. I forgot to keep an eye on them, now they're on backorder until October :eek:.

I've always wanted to grab a set of Beyers but I've been on a planar kick for the last few years.

Spark looks good, Platinum ... <drool> very nice :D

BuyDig.com, direct, or through their Ebay store(s), has Byerdynamics on sale quite often and sometimes that lines up with a general ebay discount (like the 20% they did just the other week). They're also an authorized dealer, so no warranty concerns.

I probably should score a set of planars to really give them a good listen. I've tried them over the years, but never in a scenario where I had the right environment, source, music, etc.

Here's my little SMSL headphone amp, I usually run it behind the outputs on my Mac or iPhone for a little tube-ification :)

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(I did mod these as well, I can't help myself!).

Meant to mention: I want to do a removable cable mod on my DT880s (it's kind of silly phones at that price point have a fixed cable). Looks pretty straight forward if you're decently comfortable around soldering equipment.
 
Meant to mention: I want to do a removable cable mod on my DT880s (it's kind of silly phones at that price point have a fixed cable). Looks pretty straight forward if you're decently comfortable around soldering equipment.

Very cool, I've been wanted to do the same with some of my cheaper headphones (JVC HA-RX700 and Philips SHL3300). I need to step by soldering game up lol.
 
Very cool, I've been wanted to do the same with some of my cheaper headphones (JVC HA-RX700 and Philips SHL3300). I need to step by soldering game up lol.

Well, I didn't say I was good at soldering, just comfortable with the possibility of totally ***** something up, hahahaha :D
 
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Got a new pair.

My first ones just crapped out me after working so well, so had no intention of buying new ones. Amazon had a sale on BeatsX, which wasn't bad. Noticed it wasn't a one day sale, so checked Best Buy after a few days. Best Buy had them on sale as well. Unlike Amazon though, Best Buy had the new Decade Edition ones on sale as well.

There was one catch. At the store it says they are on sale for $117. Online, once you put them in your cart they are $99. After a little hassle, got Best Buy to price themselves at the store, and got them for half price. Could not pass that up, and they've been great for work.
 
@sman789 and @D.T. I know very little about headphone amps and headphones in general when it comes to getting superior sound from them. What I do know is that I want superior sound when I listen to music.

I have two headphones, a Sony MDRV6 and the BeoPlay H7. The BeoPlay H7 is wireless, but it can also be used with a wire too.

I really like the H7's sound quality and its the best headphone I've ever used, although I haven't used many.

Would one of those headphone amps bring me a better experience than using the headphones on their own? Would an amp be useful with either of the headphones I have? Is there a different headphone and amp combination you'd recommend that woudn't break the bank either?
 
I spent part of the day reading up on this stuff and decided on placing an order for some new cans and an amp.

Sennheiser HD 650 and the Schiit Audio Magni 3

This amp can drive up to 600 ohms in a set of cans! The Sennheiser 650's are 300 ohms. These will be primarily used with my Mac Mini and maybe once in a while my MacBook Pro.

I'm looking forward to getting these and hearing what I've been missing.

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I spent part of the day reading up on this stuff and decided on placing an order for some new cans and an amp.

Sennheiser HD 650 and the Schiit Audio Magni 3

This amp can drive up to 600 ohms in a set of cans! The Sennheiser 650's are 300 ohms. These will be primarily used with my Mac Mini and maybe once in a while my MacBook Pro.

I'm looking forward to getting these and hearing what I've been missing.

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I was working on a post for you! I've been doing it a little bit here and there ... oh geez, OK, so this is the current edit:


@sman789 and @D.T. I know very little about headphone amps and headphones in general when it comes to getting superior sound from them. What I do know is that I want superior sound when I listen to music.

I have two headphones, a Sony MDRV6 and the BeoPlay H7. The BeoPlay H7 is wireless, but it can also be used with a wire too.

I really like the H7's sound quality and its the best headphone I've ever used, although I haven't used many.

Would one of those headphone amps bring me a better experience than using the headphones on their own? Would an amp be useful with either of the headphones I have? Is there a different headphone and amp combination you'd recommend that woudn't break the bank either?


All great questions with impossibly complex answers ... :D

Hahaha, seriously though, there are some good starting points, even though all of this is pretty subjective, and FWIW, I'm what you'd call a pretty "frugal audiophile" (if I even qualify for the latter part). Some of this you likely know, just easier to discuss everything, even if it's a little redundant :)

Digital Source >> DAC >> Amp >> Headphones

So first, the source (assuming digital vs. analog like vinyl). Just like any system that requires all components to be effective, you need a good source for the whole audio experience to be good. Obviously, low sample rate MP3s are probably a weak link right up front (so spending lots more further down the chain won't make much difference).

OK, if it's digital is going to go through a DAC (Digital [to] Analog Converter), and there's a good bit of variation in quality at this stage - I had a long post in the "What are you listening to ..." thread about my pursuit of a high quality CD player, that had a superlative DAC ( wound up with a TEAC).

Devices like an iPhone/iPod/Mac combine the DAC with the amp - however, you can tap into the digital stream before the DAC and use a stand-alone DAC. For example, from a Mac, you can use a DAC connected to a USB port, or on pre-16 models, to the optical (digital) that's housed in the analog audio out port.

Once you have the digital source converted to an analog signal, then it's about the amplification. Again, this is a stage where the quality of the electronics, the specific implementation details can make a big difference.

The MDR-V6 are fantastic for the price. I think the H7 with a wired connection would be pretty outstanding too (there's a lot of mystery with the wireless, so I'm limiting my comments to using them wired).
[doublepost=1530482031][/doublepost]So the Schiit stuff is _awesome_ great choice, it's boutique quality, over-engineered, and you've got a 15 day no questions asked return period.

Senn 650s are fantastic, I would HIGHLY suggest the Senn Massdrop Edition 6XXs for a startling $200, but they are currently between drops on them.
[doublepost=1530482124][/doublepost]The DAC in a MBP is pretty dang good, so if you're taking the post-DAC signal into an external amp, you should have a terrific end-to-end signal, assuming your sources (in iTunes?) are pretty good.
[doublepost=1530482235][/doublepost]If you want to get a little "tube" into the path, the Schiit Vali 2 is also fantastic, it's a hybrid, so it's really a tube-flavored-solid-state, but it definitely provides a little warmness to the sound.
[doublepost=1530482418][/doublepost]Later, if you decide you want to experiment with an external DAC, Schiit makes an incredible-for-the-price DAC, same footprint as the Modi (so they stack nicely), there's a Modi 2, Modi 2 Uber (with added coax and TosLINK in), and the killer Modi 2 Multibit, that uses a completely different DAC architecture that's supposed to be amazing and mirrors the tech used in units costing 10X as much.

Sorry, about my incremental response :D
[doublepost=1530482453][/doublepost]And yes, 300ohm cans pretty much require an external amp (vs. the amp in a MBP, iPhone, etc.)
 
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@D.T. Awesome write up! Thank you for that. I'll have to re-read it a couple of times to better understand all of that.

So, my source is going to be iTunes/Apple Music on the Mac Mini (maybe the MacBook Pro once in a while). Looking at the spec on the Magni 3 I ordered, it does not have a DAC built in. But am I understanding that the computer can take care of that part? Is there an advantage to getting the Vali 2(?) over the Magni 3?

Edit: Or should I add the Modi 2?
 
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@D.T. Awesome write up! Thank you for that. I'll have to re-read it a couple of times to better understand all of that.

So, my source is going to be iTunes/Apple Music on the Mac Mini (maybe the MacBook Pro once in a while). Looking at the spec on the Magni 3 I ordered, it does not have a DAC built in. But am I understanding that the computer can take care of that part? Is there an advantage to getting the Vali 2(?) over the Magni 3?

Edit: Or should I add the Modi 2?


Yes, OK, so the Magni 3 - as you know - is a headphone amp, it'll handle taking the analog signal, post DAC, so you'd run a mini 3.5mm to stereo/dual RCA into the Magni. It will drive high requirement headphones like those 650s (there's some specific technical reasons why higher impedance phones sound better) and it will sound amazing.

If the DAC is a limiter, sure, you could run computer>DAC>amp>headphones for more improvement - keep in mind some of this is very nuanced, better may mean different.

Some folks run a CD player as simply a transport, that is, just to supply a DAC with a bitstream. Some CD players have excellent DACs (my new TEC uses a 24bit Burr Brown it's outstanding)

There's a lot of variation, in how a DAC takes a digital signal and turns it into a "listenable" analog output. Things like soundstage can be greatly improved, detail, balance - it's not unlike a graphic program that resamples an image, there's varying quality of the results.

Magni vs Vali is solid state vs, a tube hybrid. Tubes, the old tech, can "color" the audio, soften it, make it sound warmer. The other really cool things about a tube product: you can "roll" the tubes, which is just swapping out tubes, but different tubes (from different manufacturers) color the music differently some will make the highs brighter, some will bring the midrange forward a little - it's pretty fun to play around with.
 
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Tubes, the old tech, can "color" the audio, soften it, make it sound warmer. The other really cool things about a tube product: you can "roll" the tubes, which is just swapping out tubes, but different tubes (from different manufacturers) color the music differently some will make the highs brighter, some will bring the midrange forward a little - it's pretty fun to play around with.
Fascinating. While looking around today at this stuff I was wondering what the tubes were all about and terms like "roll" the tubes were about. Now I get it.

For now I'm going to run with the 650's and the Magni 3 and I'm sure I'll be blown away by that combination. I'll keep a version of the Modi 2 in the back of my mind for now as well.

I've been listening to my B&O H7's almost all day, wireless, with the iPhone. I've been quite pleased with their sound quality since I bought them. They claim to get 20 hours of play time on a single charge and after a couple of years with them they still rock on for a very long time.

The H7's have their own amp and DAC built in and you won't know it by the amazing battery performance they deliver. But the specs on these are very slim and hard to come by so I don't know what kind of ohms that drive them or what the sensitivity rating is. Most detailed review of the H7's I've come across.

My only real complaints with them, and most cans, are after a few hours they start to hurt the top of my head where the band rests, and I keep them as loose as I can but not falling off. I don't have much hair left on the top of my head for added cushion. The other is the over the ear fit. I have large ears and the round cups put pressure on them that starts to hurt after a while too.

I'm looking forward to the 650's because their description says the cups are elliptical in design for better and more natural fit over the ears.
 
@SandboxGeneral I think you'll really appreciate the comfort of the 650s, especially the larger, oval cup design.

Seems like a good choice amp + new phones without any additional gear (especially with what I understand about the quality of the MBP DAC).

The 650s are an open design too, which in addition to audio related improvements like bigger soundstage, I find to be way more comfortable (they're "airy")

Excited to hear your feedback! Give 'em a few days too, for a good solid break in.
 
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