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True, but it has a Carl Zeiss lens and a double LED flash, and I know they are actually very good.

I use Bluetooth and MMS all the time, and there are many many other people who do, but just consider this: you have in your possession a phone which is lacking in basic features that you will end up paying around $4,000 for. Enjoy :p

How about you think about this:

There are people in the world who pay more than what an iPhone costs for 2 years, for a phone that isn't a smartphone in any way, shape, or form.

People who want an iPhone-like phone on a Sprint network pay a minimum of $2400 compared to a minimum of $1200 on AT&T with the iPhone (for a phone that is, in comparison, ****ing terrible...I absolute hate the Instinct).

It's their money. I have an iPod touch, and had an iPhone for a while (until my car broke down and I had to choose between a new car and keeping the phone), and I have never used a phone I've loved more (which includes my old flip phones, my mom's Centro, my old Treo, a blackberry and the Instinct). If MMS is a deal-breaker, then that's why there are other phones...I won't pretend like it's excusable that the iPhone doesn't have it, but I'm also not going to pretend it makes the phone worthless not having it. Same for video capture, except, well, you can always get it by jailbreaking :p

Whoops. To answer the question, I'm back on my crappy old phone to save money ;.;

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True, but it has a Carl Zeiss lens and a double LED flash, and I know they are actually very good.

I use Bluetooth and MMS all the time, and there are many many other people who do, but just consider this: you have in your possession a phone which is lacking in basic features that you will end up paying around $4,000 for. Enjoy :p

I don't get why people include the cost of the contract in with the price of the phone and say that both those added together is the total cost of the phone, that doesn't make sense, at all. I paid $300 for the phone, and the contract that is paid every month is for a service, not a continuation of the cost of the item. What's so hard to understand about that? :confused:

And yes I'm sure your Carl Zeiss lens in your camera phone can match even an Olympus E-410 and a 25mm pancake lens. And that your little flash can match even the popup flash on said camera, especially when you get into a darker room and the camera phone has to bump up the ISO :p.
 
then you have not used a SE Cybershot phone. my k800i is boss for a phone. You are going to miss an optical zoom on most camera phones due to size constraints.

This is my old phone: Sharp 903SH. Came out in 2005 with a 3.2 MP camera and LED flash. It's great. Best camera phone I ever used. I prefer the iPhone UI and now I have a touch screen iPod that makes calls and syncs wirelessly between all my 3 macs. I love it. It also won't cost me $4000.
 
Still using my Samsung Blackjack. Since I installed Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, it's been pretty decent.

Waiting for Apple to fix some of the iPhone 3G bugs and come out with a 32GB version. :3

The background is of my awesome-adorable-cool nephew Kyle, whos almost 2!

The mousepad was something I found at work back when I worked at Best Buy, and poached it.
 

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I don't get why people include the cost of the contract in with the price of the phone and say that both those added together is the total cost of the phone, that doesn't make sense, at all. I paid $300 for the phone, and the contract that is paid every month is for a service, not a continuation of the cost of the item. What's so hard to understand about that?

I think it's completely and utterly insane not to take in consideration the cost of the contract...
 
I think it's completely and utterly insane not to take in consideration the cost of the contract...

But you can get a cheap as chips mobile that's free then subscribe to the cheapest tariff possible or if you don't use the phone so much, just buy a disposable!
 
I think it's completely and utterly insane not to take in consideration the cost of the contract...

But then all the other phones are worth varying amounts. It's only the iPhone that is quite a stable price. For example, I haggled with Vodafone down to £15 a month (cheap in the UK) with a free N95 8GB (Worth £400 according to what I sold it on ebay for when I got it).

You can't add up your tariff and compare it to someone else's and then say "oh the iPhone costs £1000" because it doesn't. All handsets are subsidized somewhat, otherwise the "free" phones are worth literally nothing.
 
But then all the other phones are worth varying amounts. It's only the iPhone that is quite a stable price. For example, I haggled with Vodafone down to £15 a month (cheap in the UK) with a free N95 8GB (Worth £400 according to what I sold it on ebay for when I got it).

You can't add up your tariff and compare it to someone else's and then say "oh the iPhone costs £1000" because it doesn't. All handsets are subsidized somewhat, otherwise the "free" phones are worth literally nothing.

While its true that most handsets are subsidized, calculating the total cost of ownership is still valuable. Take this hypothetical example for iPhone v N95:

iPhone 3G: $199 (device) + 24*($40 (minutes)+$30(data)+$5(txt))=$1999

N95-8: $550 (device, estimated) + 24*($40(minutes)+$15(data)+$5(txt))=$1990

So even though the N95 is $350 more expensive for the device itself, it still works out about even over 2 years. I'm not debating which phone is "better" (i have a 2G iphone myself), just giving an example.

I did the another calculation like this when I purchased my LCD TV. Getting HD service increased my cable bill by $25/month, so I tied that into my calculation for seeing if the TV was affordable.
 
While its true that most handsets are subsidized, calculating the total cost of ownership is still valuable. Take this hypothetical example for iPhone v N95:

iPhone 3G: $199 (device) + 24*($40 (minutes)+$30(data)+$5(txt))=$1999

N95-8: $550 (device, estimated) + 24*($40(minutes)+$15(data)+$5(txt))=$1990

So even though the N95 is $350 more expensive for the device itself, it still works out about even over 2 years. I'm not debating which phone is "better" (i have a 2G iphone myself), just giving an example.

I did the another calculation like this when I purchased my LCD TV. Getting HD service increased my cable bill by $25/month, so I tied that into my calculation for seeing if the TV was affordable.

But you get the Nokia for FREE! So take off the $550...
 
You can't add up your tariff and compare it to someone else's and then say "oh the iPhone costs £1000" because it doesn't. All handsets are subsidized somewhat, otherwise the "free" phones are worth literally nothing.

What? That's exactly what you can and should do?
You can compare the cost of contracts with the same minutes/text/data over the same minimum period, add on whatever the handset costs and that's the total cost of ownership - The pricetag on the handset or how much it's subsidized doesn't mean anything.
Personally I think £15 a month is an expensive contract in the UK, which is why you're getting a £400 handset thrown in.
Possibly the wrong forum thread to talk about 'how to buy things' :)
 
Just got it - The Samsung Instinct. It's not bad. What I like about it is the haptic-like feedback when typing or choosing icons, etc.
 

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Only got mine this week and it's great. Everyone get an iphone 3G.
 

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Only got mine this week and it's great. Everyone get an iphone 3G.

The "everyone get" part is one of the reason's I'll never buy the iPhone 3G. Plus I don't feel like owning a locked phone nor do I wish to pay $30 for data when I can get the same for half.
 
Just got it - The Samsung Instinct. It's not bad. What I like about it is the haptic-like feedback when typing or choosing icons, etc.

QUICK! Return it and get the BlackBerry Storm in 6wks when Telus is able to launch it!

Pros!?

*CDMA 900/1800Mhz with EVDO Rev A
*GSM/GPRS/EDGE quadband 850/900/1800/1900/Mhz
*UMTS on 2100Mhz (HSPA 7.2Mbps specs) for Europe travells!
You want better haptics?! The market doesn't have ANYTHING that compares!!

Also I've read it plays 720p MP4's without conversion or issues.
 
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Works, texting isn't bad. I would love a 32GB iPhone 3G (if Apple ever released one)....but yeah, LG enV. The color is horrid, lol. I'm eligible for an upgrade but, there's really nothing on VZW that I want.
 
samsung g600

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had this phone for a while!
o2 pay as you go

very good phone. simple to use. 5mp camera. 1gb sd card. got a few songs n pictures/ videos on it.

wanting to get iphone 3g 16gb pay as you go, but its £400 for the iphone itself then £10 a month, then £20 a month after 12 months. With no free texts. which i get on my samsung :)

i'd deffiantly get the iphone if it was reduced in price, or if have that kind of money to spare, and could keep my own simcard with all my free texts that i get montly!
 
I've got a Moto k3. I like the all-metal design & shiny buttons but battery life leaves a lot to be desired... I may contact Motorola about a new battery as it's still under warranty.
I only use it for calling & texting (got my new camera for photography :D). Got it fairly cheaply (£48 new :cool:), SIM free from eBay.
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