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What PowerPC architecture will you be rocking?

  • Pre-G3

    Votes: 4 10.8%
  • G3

    Votes: 10 27.0%
  • G4

    Votes: 27 73.0%
  • G5

    Votes: 13 35.1%
  • 68k

    Votes: 4 10.8%

  • Total voters
    37
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netsrot39

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You can add me to the participants list :) (CATEGORY BASIC)

I'll be using my G4-Macs more often in the next weeks since I'm on holiday now (1 month university break) which means I don't need to get computer stuff done as quickly as during the semester.

My PowerPC machines are as follows:
  • PowerBook G4 15" 1.67 Ghz, 2 GB RAM, 128 GB SSD (Early 2005) – OS X Tiger & Leopard
  • PowerBook G4 Hi-Res 15" 1.67 Ghz, 2 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD (Late 2005) – OS X Leopard
  • PowerBook G4 12" 1.5 Ghz, 1.25 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD (Early 2005) – OS X Tiger
I don't think I'll be running into any serious problems regarding my usual workflow which is mainly viewing and editing Word/Pages/PDF documents and web browsing (in other words student tasks ;) ) During my free time I like to watch some tv series or films which won't be a problem with CorePlayer and for really high definition stuff there is always the possibility to convert the files.

I'll report back later :)
 
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AphoticD

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Feb 17, 2017
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My PowerPC machines are as follows:
  • PowerBook G4 15" 1.67 Ghz, 2 GB RAM, 128 GB SSD (Early 2005) – OS X Tiger & Leopard
  • PowerBook G4 Hi-Res 15" 1.67 Ghz, 2 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD (Late 2005) – OS X Leopard
  • PowerBook G4 12" 1.5 Ghz, 1.25 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD (Early 2005) – OS X Tiger

That's a fine collection of the last generation PowerPC Macs. You should be pretty well set for the task. :apple:
 
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Kliee

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Good first day of the challenge!

I guess most of you are starting, or about to start your week of PowerPC. Here in France it's already the evening and I spent my first afternoon fixing my first ever iBook G3 Clamshell.

I used to not want one when they were cheap but their design grew on me with time. Of course, they are now awfully expensive. Mine was dirt cheap because it had issues, the main of which being its broken screen. I had a spare but with the wrong shell color. So, I had to painfully swap the LCD out of one shell to the other.
The task would not have been that long if I didn't broke a pin on the inverter board connector on the good panel. Because of that, I had to de-solder the "new" board, solder the old one on the new panel, take a shock while testing and re-solder again.

But in the end I prevailed and I'm now the happy owner of a 300Mhz indigo iBook G3. No extra ram was included, which made my first test through OS 9.2 a hell of slowness, but I grabbed a 256 Mb stick of SDRAM 100 I had lying around and now it's quite fast. Still lack a few parts I'll be getting, like the RAM cover.

Took a few pictures I might upload!

I'll also take the opportunity say I'll be running in Basic, with pre-G3/G3/G4/G5 and a whole span of OS versions.
I expect my main machine to end up being my PowerMac G5 dual 2Ghz / 8Gb of ram. Another recent lucky find. The person who sold it to me for around $30 didn't know if it ran (hence the price). Well, it does!

Will try to report here everyday!
 

EnriqueG

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Dec 30, 2017
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I started today the challenge.

As imI studying my notes on paper I have only used my G4 for checking university stuff.

I'll see how it continues this week. However I've been using my PowerPC Mac for the 95% of my daily computer time for the last two weeks. From it, a 75% of the time under OS 9. I had to reboot in OS X for some PDF compatibility issues and some webpages. Not everybody shares Acrobat 5 compatible files :eek:

I am also going to boot my TiBook. Screen is broken but maybe I got it working as headless server as soon as I finish exams this Wednesday.
 

Lastic

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Mar 19, 2016
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I actually started on Friday evening to be prepared on Saturday.

Detailed Day 1 report to follow in the morning but let's say something's brewing

G5 brewing something new Apple Logo.png
 
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kasuja00

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Jun 3, 2018
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Hi! I started today the challenge.
Here in Italy is evening now.

This morning i had a big problem with the disk drive of my Powerbook G4. It was corrupted at the catalog.
I tried to fix the error with fsck running in Single User Mode, but it was impossible.
Then i formatted the disk and i installed a new copy of Leopard.

Now i'm writing with it and it seems ok.

To read the Google Mail i set as default the html visualization and for the other email accounts i use Mail.
 

Slix

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Mar 24, 2010
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First day of the challenge I spent mostly at work, but I managed to try some new stuff!

I started with my recent favorite, my 12" PowerBook 1.33 GHz with 1.25 GB of RAM, running 10.5.

I recently started using Leopard Safari Webkit, and man it's fast for a lot. Sorry, @
eyoungren, I might use this more than TenFourFox on Leopard machines. ;D

I also tried out iTunes Home Sharing on Leopard, since it's the first version that allows you update play counts over Home Sharing. My MacBook Air will remain in clamshell sleep mode during this week, but it connected right away (after adding the 2-factor authentication code to the end of my password!) on my PowerBook. I tried playing some music, and the streaming is fast, and it updates my play counts on my MacBook's iTunes, which is something I really care about keeping records of. :p

I'm planning to try out some other machines this week, and make more use of my network accounts from my Mac OS X Leopard Server that I set up a bit back. I'm curious if authorizing the network account and using multiple Macs would bypass the "You can only have 5 machines authorized" limit. Will update when I find out! I'm planning to take some video when I'm not working too of my setup with an older camcorder or camera and editing it with iMovie too. :)
 

mmphosis

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Jan 3, 2017
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I type this from the comfort of my 12 PowerBook G4 867 MHz with 1.12 GB of RAM, running 10.5. This is my daily driver, it’s not challenging at all. The keyboard is small, sculpted, and easy to type from, unlike those “modern” PC keyboards with their large awkward layouts, and many redundant keys, or a “modern” Mac laptop with it’s tiny flattened push button like keys. Everything just works, there is no struggle using this old PowerPC Mac.

screenshot.png

I do struggle with PC hardware, Intel CPUs compromised by the Management Engine, no Ethernet adapter, weird drivers, ridiculous amounts of configurating that usually ends in half-baked hacked up solutions. I am taking this “challenge” the other way around — rather than try to enhance an already working PowerPC Mac and software, instead I am going to configurate and hack “modern” hardware into a form more in line with the leisurely world of an old PowerPC Mac.

From this little :apple: PowerBook G4, my daily driver. :p
 
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Haemoglobin

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Technically I started the challenge on Friday, when I was surfing the forum on my iBook from the comfort of a cafe, whilst it snowed outside. I was looking to setup my iBook in a similar fashion to my Powerbook with umatrix and webkit installed. I managed to get the first half sorted, but not much luck with webkit as it appears to be a 10.5 app and my iBook is running 10.4.

Saturday was spent at a retro Amiga Computer club meeting, so we didn't really get much further than the 90s the entire day.

The only challenge I've faced thus far is my phone, which is essentially a modern handheld computer. I'm not much of a FB user but a lot of friends insist on contacting me via FB instead of SMS message. Which has resulted in me having to check my messages occasionally. Personally I pin this in the same bracket as checking a text but if it breaks the challenge so be it. For everything else I've been using powerpc :)
 

Lastic

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Mar 19, 2016
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Day 1

I started my challenge prep on Friday since I had a day off from work.

I received my Lindy mSATA IDE adapter and installed it together with my Kingston 240GB mSATA in my Powerbook G4
12" 1.5 Ghz to have some more space to do things.

As you know I try to virtualize any OS if I need it for something specific so I used my MBp ( it was still Friday ) to create a
QEMU install of a new Windows 10 Lite version I found here :

https://litewinos.blogspot.com/2019/01/windows-10-ltsc-2019-32bit-liteos.html

However on my G5 even after 2 hours still no logon screen , whereas this image here https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...allenge-some-new-ideas.2161667/#post-26954152 did boot but was unusable.

Win 10 Ent Lite on G5 stuck.png


On to Saturday.

Since I now own a seperate monitor for my other retro machine , an Atari 130XE , and it has speakers , I tried to
hook up the Powerbook G4 via HDMI using this cable :
https://www.macnificos.com/newertech-adaptador-mini-dvi-hdmi#sku-NTE0023

I was very twitchy, moving the cable seemed to loose the connection but it remained stable for 15 minutes only to
discover that the video port on the PB doesn't carry sound :(

G4 on my Atari desk start of the day Automatic.jpeg


I started Automatic to pull in my Showrss feed and since I normally don't use the G4 full-time I noticed a few things:

  • Automatic uses 60% when it checks for the feed, it does cool down after that but I had it set at check every 30 minutes, changed that to every 6 hours
  • I lost the HDMI adapter and used a DVI adapter with a cable to the speakers
  • Roccat or TFF with 5 tabs opened chews away CPU
  • I'm not sure wether driving the 1920x1800 screen adds extra load but the fan was on a lot
  • In previous challenges I hardly used an external screen , if I did it was a 20" Cinema display with a lower resolution
So for a first time use of the G4 with a high-res monitor a bit dissapointing that it uses so much power.
Also haven't used it as a desktop so multi-tabbed browsing was slow as I should have expected.

But luckily there's still the G5.

Browsing in TFF with 6 tabs opened, very usable.

I couldn't watch a video on a news site but found that using Web Developer , I could locate the m3u8 file and use
youtube-dl to download it and watch it sans browser.

I installed the only working Atari 800 emulator
https://sourceforge.net/projects/atari800/

from source here
https://sourceforge.net/projects/atari800/files/atari800/4.0.0/atari800-4.0.0.tar.gz/download
and the necessary ROM's
https://sourceforge.net/projects/atari800/files/ROM/Original XL ROM/xf25.zip/download

Installed libsdl via MacPorts
cd src
./configure --with-video=sdl --with-opengl
make
sudo make install

Atari 800 G5.png


In the evening I was thinking to myself which OS would let me use some of the tools I need and then it hit me.
I've been trying so hard to get a shrinked Windows version booted via QEMU why don't I try to run OS X.
OS X Mavericks seems to be the lowest version supported by most stuff I need so I settled on 10.9.

Hooked up my Lacie Thunderbolt via USB3 which contains all my backups and ISO's .

G5 External Thunderbolt USB3 to the rescue.jpeg


Found some blogs

https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/mini-howto-running-mac-os-x-10-9-under-proxmox-3-3.19722/page-4

https://blog.ostanin.org/2014/02/11/playing-with-mac-os-x-on-kvm/

the most usefull which got me around the Chameleon mach_kernel not found error

https://www.frijid.net/blog/index.p...ng-os-x-kvmqemu-guest-onto-a-linux-host-zvol/

using Pacifist

https://www.charlessoft.com/pacifist_olderversions.html

has helped me create an ISO , it boots but now I'm stuck at the Apple Logo.

G5 brewing something new Apple Logo.png


Issue might be that qemu 2.2.0 only let's me assign 1300MB whereas 10.9 needs 2048MB, if anybody is interested
to run this on Linux PPC where qemu let's you assign more RAM, let me know I'll upload the ISO.


Then last but not least , my Xserve G4 DP.

I thought to upgrade Macports from 2.4.2 to 2.5.4 , which I did but I also have 2 failed RAID slices resulting in syslogd eating alll the CPU writing to the logs that these disks cannot be mounted.

Goal was to install qemu 3.0.0 and see how it performs on the G4 but then the clock struck midnight and I went to bed.

With daylight now , I have pulled out the 2 failing disks for now (Netboot images) and will see if qemu 3.0.0 works.
[doublepost=1549185228][/doublepost]Also want to note that for work I have to check WhatsApp on my phone and I did do all my online banking upfront on Friday on my MBp.
 

AphoticD

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Excellent post @Lastic you sure had a busy day.

So for a first time use of the G4 with a high-res monitor a bit dissapointing that it uses so much power.

I've seen the same on my 12" PowerBook G4. It turns out the GeForce Mobility FX 5200 GPU doesn't do much in terms of accelerated Quartz Compositor / WM rendering. The difference between the 12" and my 15" AluBook on an external display is night and day. Also, the 128MB Radeon Mobility 9700 in the DLSD 15" and 17" or the SLSD 17" was more than capable of driving my 2560x1440 WQHD 27" display at full (dual-link) resolutions, where the 12" maxes out at 2048x1536.

Issue might be that qemu 2.2.0 only let's me assign 1300MB whereas 10.9 needs 2048MB, if anybody is interested
to run this on Linux PPC where qemu let's you assign more RAM, let me know I'll upload the ISO.

I'll bite. Send it up and I'll see if QEMU 3.1.0 on the DC G5 can boot Mavericks at all under MATE 16.04. It would be impressive!

Goal was to install qemu 3.0.0 and see how it performs on the G4 but then the clock struck midnight and I went to bed.

I remember we were trying this last year some time.. Did you have any progress with any of the later QEMU versions under Leopard? I couldn't get anything to happen, it just beachballed at the VM window after applying those Obj-C/Cocoa changes.
 
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Amethyst1

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@Lastic: I'll say it again, great post! A pleasure to read about your day.

With regards to the 12in PB having problems pushing 1920×1080, @LightBulbFun told me that this resolution requires a higher pixel clock than 1920×1200 and the 12in may have issues due to a weak TMDS transmitter. My 1.5GHz 12in definitely drops out occasionally at 1920×1080 whereas 1920×1200 is rock-solid (both at 60 Hz).
[doublepost=1549196264][/doublepost]
ay. Also, the 128MB Radeon Mobility 9700 in the DLSD 15" and 17" or the SLSD 17" was more than capable of driving my 2560x1440 WQHD 27" display at full (dual-link) resolutions, where the 12" maxes out at 2048x1536.

It's a shame OS X exhibits framebuffer corruption on the PowerBook/9700 at 3840×2160, since it would be awesome to drive that "ultra-high" resolution from a PPC notebook of all things. As for 2048×1536 on the 12in, I didn't even get that to work via DVI sadly. :(
 
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AnonMac50

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Power Mac G5 (2x 2.0 Single Core, 10.4.11, 10.5.8, 10.5.8 Server), Power Mac G5 (2x 2.0 Single Core, nothing at the moment, put the hard drive in the other one) one Power Mac G5 (1x 1.8 Single Core, 10.4.11), PowerBook G4 (1.67 15", 10.4.11 and 10.5.8), PowerBook G4 (1.5 15", 10.4.11 and 10.5.8), PowerBook G4 (867 Titanium, 9.2.2 and 10.2.8), iBook G4 (800 12", 10.4.11), iBook G4 (1.33 12", 10.4.11), iBook G4 (1.33 14", 10.3.9 and 10.5.8), Power Mac 9600 (200, 9.2.2, 10.1.5, Mac OS X Server v1.x, all of which are unsupported), PowerBook 5300ce (8.5), Quadra 800 (with PPC upgrade, 8.1), IIci (no idea), two PowerBook 180 (both on 7.1), Macintosh SE/FDHD (7.1., Arabic localized version).

Granted, I don't use all of them a lot, especially since they are spread out between two countries, but I do have one of the dual 2.0 G5s running as a server (secondary to one of my Mac Pros), and the 1.67 GHz PowerBook and the TiBook are used very frequently. The 14" iBook G4 is used quite a bit too. Going to the other country, I use the 1.8 G5, the 800 MHz iBook and the Power Mac 9600 quite a bit too, but I'm usually not at home enough to run them. They're computers are good for games and other classic software that I use, as well as browsing the Internet (the Dual G5 running Leopard with TenFourFox and the Leopard Webkit project is surprisingly very usable), with only the occasional struggle when opening 1080p YouTube videos using H.264. Of course, due to my daily computer necessities, I need my iMac Pro and MacBook Pro for almost everything...something just won't run on older hardware or software, and that, for me, is very unfortunate.

I'm always looking to add to my collection!

Edit: Let me clarify what OSs they are running.
 
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bobesch

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Good first day of the challenge!

I guess most of you are starting, or about to start your week of PowerPC. Here in France it's already the evening and I spent my first afternoon fixing my first ever iBook G3 Clamshell.

I used to not want one when they were cheap but their design grew on me with time. Of course, they are now awfully expensive. Mine was dirt cheap because it had issues, the main of which being its broken screen. I had a spare but with the wrong shell color. So, I had to painfully swap the LCD out of one shell to the other.
The task would not have been that long if I didn't broke a pin on the inverter board connector on the good panel. Because of that, I had to de-solder the "new" board, solder the old one on the new panel, take a shock while testing and re-solder again.

But in the end I prevailed and I'm now the happy owner of a 300Mhz indigo iBook G3. No extra ram was included, which made my first test through OS 9.2 a hell of slowness, but I grabbed a 256 Mb stick of SDRAM 100 I had lying around and now it's quite fast. Still lack a few parts I'll be getting, like the RAM cover.

Took a few pictures I might upload!

I'll also take the opportunity say I'll be running in Basic, with pre-G3/G3/G4/G5 and a whole span of OS versions.
I expect my main machine to end up being my PowerMac G5 dual 2Ghz / 8Gb of ram. Another recent lucky find. The person who sold it to me for around $30 didn't know if it ran (hence the price). Well, it does!

Will try to report here everyday!

Ha, congrats to your iBook and becoming a Clamshell-whisperer! Great work to nearly build up that defective book from the scratch

My current 'challenge' is, to enhance os9-network-capabilities of Clamshell and iMacG3.
So far connectivity with PPC/Tiger&Leopard is fine using AFP, but the os9-AFP-version is to old for OSX-ElCap, so my MBP-A1260 is kind of "left behind" (looking from my Clamshells point of view :D)
Installed DAVE4.0 to connect with virtual Win2k, but SMB-connection to OSX still doesn't work.
Would be great to have folder-share to a Dropbox on a Dropbox-capable Mac at hands.
Well, not really PPC-only stuff, but good fun...
 
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EnriqueG

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Wanted to listen to the music I have stored in the OS 9 partition of my G4... Looks like I've installed something wrong as now the sound devices disappeared. Sound works under Mac OS X though.

I'm sure is some printer driver I've installed... Tried to boot with standard extension set and still does not work.

An extra project for this week might be getting Spanish Mac OS 9 working on this thing. I have the disk, but as this is an unsupported Mac I used the MacOS9lives installer with iMic's ROM... I guess I have at least of afternoon time on this. I feel comfortable with an English OS but... It's a challenge.
 

kasuja00

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Jun 3, 2018
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Good everning!
Today I work to capture and edit the animation movie Macross (Robotech).
I capture it from my old VHS tape with Elgato Eyetv 250, and then i'm able to burn the dvd with my Powerbook through the Apple external DVD connected to a powered Usb Hub.
If i connect this external DVD directly to the Powerbook don't work.

Today I discovered Leopard Webkit, and now i'm writing this report with it. I'm able also to made a Bank Transfer using home banking.
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Lastic

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Mar 19, 2016
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Day 2

I was only on my machines this morning before I left the house for 12 hours and now almost have to go to bed.

On my Xserve G4 I pulled out the 2 failing RAID slices so syslogd would stop eating all CPU, will have to look at that
later.

But I started the Macports upgrade to 2.5.4 hoping that qemu 3.0.0 will install and be patched for PPC now ???

One thing I learned today, I SSH'ed into my Xserve G4 and wanted to start my port install qemu in screen
but it doesn't have the PATH env. so it couldn't find the Macports directories.

screen -s -/bin/bash

This will make sure you inherit all your bash settings in screen, started sudo port install qemu, Ctrl-A , Ctrl-D.
Detached my session and closed my SSH session so screen keeps running in the background .

Also started the Mavericks QEMU on my G5 to let it run but now, 12 hours further it still stuck at the same screen.

And the qemu 3.0.0 install didn't complete yet on the Xserve G4 , sigh .

@Amethyst1 thanks for the usefull tips on the difference in resolutions , will try that tomorrow again with the G4

@AphoticD I'm uploading the iso to Google Drive now but it will take 3 hours, watch this space for the link ...( EDIT removed 8-feb-2019 to upload Snow Leopard instead )

<removed>

You will need the bios-mac.bin from osx-kvm/share/qemu/bios-mac.bin here :

https://mega.nz/#!H9NjGLgZ!7JhDJ_NWzVdRlUI8Ee4WZdiqlOJyRuSQrA6qlmJpG6E

and the osx-kvm/chameleon_svn2360_boot from the same archive

This is my boot command , but you normally have to use 2 GB RAM
vga cirrus is because of the qemu 2.2.0 bug , you probably can use vga std
osx109.img is a 8GB qcow2 image created with qemu-img.

qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -cpu core2duo -machine q35 \
-smp 2 \
-usbdevice keyboard -usbdevice mouse \
-vga cirrus \
-device isa-applesmc,osk="ourhardworkbythesewordsguardedpleasedontsteal(c)AppleComputerInc" \
-smbios type=2 \
-bios bios-mac.bin -kernel osx-kvm/chameleon_svn2360_boot \
-device ide-drive,bus=ide.2,drive=MacHDD \
-drive id=MacHDD,if=none,cache=none,file=./osx109.img \
-device ide-drive,bus=ide.0,drive=MacDVD \
-drive id=MacDVD,if=none,snapshot=on,file=./mavericks.iso
 
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Haemoglobin

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Day 2 - Spent Sunday morning listening to my favorite podcasts via iTunes (so glad it still works). Responded to emails, needed to get something from facebook but doing so would have been a pain. So I emailed a friend and asked them to send the info they'd originally PM'd me via email instead. 10 minutes later I had what I needed without going anywhere near the dreaded facebook! Result!

As I do like a little gaming, I went and found myself a few puzzle games and a French language tutor to help the other half with learning French. Was pleasantly surprised with what I found and really think I need to look in to PPC gaming a little more.

Had to go out to a birthday party, so wasn't back on the PB till late evening. Caught up with emails, replied to a few forum posts. As I use my powerbook for a lot of things already, its not been a massive change in routine, except for maybe limiting how much I use my phone (which isn't a bad thing).

All in all day two hasn't been to difficult, tomorrow I plan on taking the PB to a cafe for a spot of writing. I've been running a play by mail RPG since 2001 and I find getting out the house really helps me focus. Luckily I bought a new battery for my laptop, so running out of juice before I'm finished is seldom an problem.
 

Slix

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Day 2:

I tried using my same PowerBook that I had Home Sharing set up to log into my network account and enabled Home Sharing there as well. It didn't count against the Authorization count, so I tried using my MDD and my 15" PowerBook with the network account for Home Sharing - it all works! No extra authorizations needed (so far, I wonder if it'll do pings after a day or week or something?), so I can play my music on any PowerPC on Leopard as of now. :D I should point out that despite Apple adding lots of features over the years for AirPlay and iTunes, the interface for multiple speakers here is much better than the current iTunes (why does it reorganize what's playing so the order swaps the names around? Ugh.)

I started setting up my network account with WebKit as well, with my bookmarks and logins too, so I can easily switch between computers this week. It seems that TenFourFox doesn't play well with network accounts, since the bookmarks bar doesn't show up or even work at all. If anyone has any suggestions on that, let me know. It would help compatibility for older machines running Tiger this week!

I spent most of my time aside from that today just browsing the internet, posting on forums and scrolling through Twitter.

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mmphosis

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Hey it’s the second day of the challenge so I was inspired to fire up a second PowerPC Mac!

I type this from the comfort of an extended keyboard connected to my Mac Mini G4 1.42 GHz with 1 GB of RAM, running 10.5. This is my Developer machine with tools at the ready. I grabbed a HDMI to DVI cable that connected a PC (won’t be using that) laptop to second monitor. I used the cable to go the other way: from the DVI on the Mac Mini to the HDMI on a ten year old flat panel TV. I set the resolution as high as it can go in Displays: 1920 × 1080 (interlaced). I notice that not all of the computer screen fits on the TV screen, I’ve noticed this problem with newer 4K TVs as well. I dug through the TV settings using the buttons on the side of the TV because a remote control did not come with this old beast, even though the onscreen instructions mention using a remote control. I managed to find a setting that turns off overscan on the TV, and voila the Mac Mini’s 1920 × 1080 of interlaced pixels fits on the TV. It looks horrible. Oh well.

screenshot.png

I continue to flog through, although I think I might want to conflagurate through, what must be the worst configuration combination: Linux + PC laptop wireless.
From this :apple: Mac Mini G4, my Developer machine. :p
 

Lastic

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Mar 19, 2016
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Day 3

This morning after I upgraded all my ports on my Xserve G4 , I decided again to build qemu 3.0.0 from Macports 2.5.4.

At first it kept failing at configure since it was using gcc4.2 so after some searching I found a way to force it to use gcc4.7

sudo port install qemu configure.compiler=macports-gcc-4.7

as found here
https://trac.macports.org/wiki/UsingTheRightCompiler

But then it fails at the build phase :

2 -c -o chardev/char-parallel.o chardev/char-parallel.c
:info:build ui/cocoa.m: In function '-[QemuCocoaAppController openDocumentation:]':
:info:build ui/cocoa.m:1117:15: internal compiler error: in decode_addr_const, at varasm.c:2669
:info:build Please submit a full bug report,

which looks a lot like the error reported on Macports trac here

https://trac.macports.org/ticket/56742

@kencu this is the reason why all my PPC machines run Macports 2.4.2 max and an old commit of qemu 2.2.0, it's the only version that still works, albeit with some quirks.

I'm now building qemu 3.0.0 with variants +curses +vnc in order to disable cocoa and maybe get around the error .
Which succeeded but I can still only assign 1400MB of RAM to an X86 Qemu guest , whereas it states that 2047MB
of RAM is the limit.

So the only advantage between Macports qemu 2.2.0 and 3.0.0 is that on 2.2.0 Cocoa (GUI) still works.

@AphoticD curious to hear your experience with Ubuntu Mate 16 PPC and qemu linux PPC.

@Amethyst1 I tried your tip for the G4 but the display only goes from 1920x1800 to 1600x900 on HDMI and still no image, will keep using DVI for now.
 

Traace

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Jul 21, 2018
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I builded newest cmus terminal media player via macports, upgraded its portfile to 2.8.0 and fixed some compiler issues on ppc.

Build finished after 2 days (Had to build many deps from source).
Build.prefix is /opt/tports
Start it, type in terminal: /opt/tports/bin/cmus
Builded on OSX_105 with GCC6

It supports: .flac .aac .mp3 .wmv .wav & more. Also network streams & web radio

Unfortunately no coreaudio support yet for our ppc, only AO (to much unresolved errors)

Grab it from my Wiki. (work in progress)
https://wiki.fopnu.pw/index.php?title=Mac_PowerPC

More coming soon. Message me what builds you like to see.



Edit: Enjoy up 2 date bash and exfat drivers. Build from source.
Created my first portfile. Exfat was never seen prebuilded before :) Grab it from above!

Remember you still need https://osxfuse.github.io/ installed before mounting a device. More infos inside Readme


All compiled for PPC, no universal builds yet, sorry Intel users.
 
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Lastic

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Day 4

Came home from a 12 hour workday , ate and realize now that I have to get up in exactly 7 hours again so not much happening today and tomorrow I also have to work 8 hours during the day and another 3 in the evening , sigh.

I did fiddle around yesterday evening with trying to install openconnect 8.0 from source since it might also to use our company Palo Alto Global Protect VPN on PPC but no luck, tried the 7.x version install via Macports but same error.

When I get some time free I want to compare the TigerBrew install with the Macports install so know why it works with Tigerbrew on Leopard , as described by @dbdjre0143 here #8

Also should install Macports 2.5.4 on my clean install so I can fork smtube.
 
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