MP 6,1 Prices need to drop on 2013 Mac Pro - Let's Go!

[ScreenSavers]

Mine just came in today. (Bought on ebay.) Manufacture date of 5-2-2015... Everything seems to run great on it- restored it from a clone of my 5,1 and got right to work. Waiting for the E5-2697. Should be here Monday.

This flash storage is certainly WAY faster than the SATA 2 SSDs on a 5,1 if nothing else. (Yes, I know with nVME cards those can beat this...)

 

[MacPoulet]

Anyone have real-world experience using the D500 in DaVinci Resolve with 4K footage?

 

[th0masp]

It's a machine where the compact design was the selling point with GPUs that would have been mid-range around 2012. Not sure 4K was even a thing at the time? But it'll work - and you will be best advised to use proxies instead of 4K.

 

[ScreenSavers]

Anyone have real-world experience using the D500 in DaVinci Resolve with 4K footage?

Mine handles 4K in FCP X fine. Not a resolve user so not sure if that helps.

It's a machine where the compact design was the selling point with GPUs that would have been mid-range around 2012. Not sure 4K was even a thing at the time? But it'll work - and you will be best advised to use proxies instead of 4K.

It was... they even advertised it on stage as supporting 4K displays.

 

[MisterAndrew]

It's a machine where the compact design was the selling point with GPUs that would have been mid-range around 2012.

I don’t think I’d call the GPUs midrange for 2012. The D700 is basically an underclocked W9000, which was $4000. And there are two of them. The D300 is basically a W7000 which was $900. Not even a 5,1 can run two W9000s without some serious power mods.

 

[MisterAndrew]

Johns Hopkins University in Maryland has a 6-core/D500 unit in stock at their Technology Center.

Apple Mac Pro 3.5GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5 3.5GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5 processor 16GB 1866MHz DDR3 ECC memory Dual AMD FirePro D500 with 3GB GDDR5 VRAM each 256GB PCIe-based flash storage1

Mac Pro 3.5GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E53.5GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5 processor 16GB 1866MHz DDR3 ECC memory Dual AMD FirePro D500 with 3GB GDDR5 VRAM each 256GB PCIe-

store.jhutechstore.com

 

[MisterAndrew]

This looks like a pretty nice 8-core unit (MQGG2LL/A) on eBay. Auction ends in about 2 hours.

Apple Mac Pro 8-CORE 64GB RAM DUAL AMD D700 12GB VRAM 256GB PCIE SSD(MQGG2LLA) | eBay

Condition is Used. THIS WAS THE 2016 RE-RELEASE MODEL THAT HAS BEEN UPGRADED. VERY WELL TAKEN CARE OF 9/10 CONDITION, MY PERSONAL MACHINE. THIS MAC IS A BEAST OF A COMPUTER AND CAN HANDLE ANYTHING YOU THROW AT IT.

www.ebay.com

 

[th0masp]

I don’t think I’d call the GPUs midrange for 2012. The D700 is basically an underclocked W9000, which was $4000. And there are two of them. The D300 is basically a W7000 which was $900. Not even a 5,1 can run two W9000s without some serious power mods.

AMD FirePro D500 Specs

AMD Tahiti, 725 MHz, 1536 Cores, 96 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 3072 MB GDDR5, 1270 MHz, 384 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Apparently based on some Radeon HD 7970. Ok, so at time of release in 2013 below the Geforce 680, an upper mid-range card then. Of course the 7-series was already out and in 2014 there was that big performance jump with the 9-series.
High end or workstation would have been the Titan.

 

[MisterAndrew]

The 7970 is not below a GTX 680. Tahiti is a better workstation GPU than Kepler. If you look at compute benchmarks, Tahiti almost always pulls far ahead. For example, if you look at LuxMark benchmarks the GTX 680 scores are less than half the D700. The top D700 score for single GPU is 11,616. The top GTX 680 score is 4,949. The D500 single GPU score is still much better at 8,420.

These are my D700 LuxMark luxball scores. Single and dual.

 

[ScreenSavers]

Just got my CPU upgrade!

 

[MacPoulet]

Just got my CPU upgrade!


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Congrats! How's it run?

 

[ScreenSavers]

Congrats! How's it run?

Not bad. Multi core performance is significantly improved, and single core is a little slower, obviously, due to the lower clock speed. 2.7 GHz vs the old 3.5 6 core.

 

[ScreenSavers]

I just ordered a second machine. Found someone selling a bunch of 3.5 6-core/512GB/D500 machines on Mercari for a really low price. I ordered one, and my brother did as well. Anxious to see what happens, because it was exactly half the price of the one I just got, and twice the SSD.

 

[mBox]

Mine handles 4K in FCP X fine.

It all depends on your workflow and the editable format you use.
Before the 2019 MPs dropped, I used mostly D700s but have had to work on a D500 when the studio is busy.
If you work in RED (in Resolve/FCPX/Premiere) then IMHO it works like a charm but then it does amazing on a 2010 MacBook Pro.
Your bottleneck is def workflow e.g. RAID, proxy, editing resolution vs finishing resolution, etc....
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I have a D700 at home fully loaded.
I might pick up another since I have a slew of Thunderbolt 2 peripherals e.g RAIDs, enclosures loaded with PCI cards, etc..
Any tips on cheap ones out there would be appreciated.
I have a ton at work and now on a 2019 MP so I need to be at least close to that speed

 

[MacPoulet]

I just ordered a second machine. Found someone selling a bunch of 3.5 6-core/512GB/D500 machines on Mercari for a really low price. I ordered one, and my brother did as well. Anxious to see what happens, because it was exactly half the price of the one I just got, and twice the SSD.

What’s Mercari?

 

[ScreenSavers]

What’s Mercari?

‎Mercari: Buying & Selling App

‎MERCARI is resale made easy! With ZERO selling fees and 1000s of new and used items dropping daily, millions are shopping and selling on the Mercari marketplace. List in seconds, make $$$ and fund your next find. From clothing to collectibles, vintage Valentino to new gaming Nintendo, find...

apps.apple.com

 

[MacPoulet]

‎Mercari: Buying & Selling App

‎MERCARI is resale made easy! With ZERO selling fees and 1000s of new and used items dropping daily, millions are shopping and selling on the Mercari marketplace. List in seconds, make $$$ and fund your next find. From clothing to collectibles, vintage Valentino to new gaming Nintendo, find...

apps.apple.com

Doesn’t seem to be available in Canada. Won’t even show me the page on the App Store.

 

[ScreenSavers]

Doesn’t seem to be available in Canada. Won’t even show me the page on the App Store.

It’s an online selling app... like eBay but a smaller scale obviously. I’ve sold a lot of macs on there!

 

[MacPoulet]

It’s an online selling app... like eBay but a smaller scale obviously. I’ve sold a lot of macs on there!

Cool. We have something like it called Kijiji but it’s more like an eBay-owned Craigslist. The Macs there are ridiculously overpriced. People still expect to get full retail price on 2007 iMacs...

 

[ScreenSavers]

Cool. We have something like it called Kijiji but it’s more like an eBay-owned Craigslist. The Macs there are ridiculously overpriced. People still expect to get full retail price on 2007 iMacs...

Same idea then. Mercari’s pretty fun. We’ll see how the 6,1 is.

 

[mBox]

Its amazing how these Macs lasted considering the drama and issues they had.
We purchased a slew of D700s and D500s back in 2013 and not once had the overheating issues everyone else was getting.
Seven years later and they still rock.
Not the same feeling about buying a seven-year-old Dell/HP/Asus

 

[MisterAndrew]

I don't see any listed on Mercari. I just see one that was sold within the last 24 hours in Ohio. Looks like it went for pretty cheap. Still feel more comfortable buying a new one with AppleCare+ though. I probably got the last new MQGG2LL/A unit from an authorized reseller. ? Look at all those mark down stickers I peeled off. It was still $3,455.96 in November. I caught it just went they marked it down again on the first.

 

[.Mina.]

Heyho! I looked around and I'm asking myself for how much I should maybe sell my MacPro 2013. It is a 6-core machine with 16 GB Ram and the AMD FirePro D700 cards. Condition ist very good.
I saw it varies a lot... from like 1,670,- $ to about 2,570,- $ or something.

What would you think would be a appropriate rate on that one?

Best regards

 

[ScreenSavers]

I don't see any listed on Mercari. I just see one that was sold within the last 24 hours in Ohio. Looks like it went for pretty cheap. Still feel more comfortable buying a new one with AppleCare+ though. I probably got the last new MQGG2LL/A unit from an authorized reseller. ? Look at all those mark down stickers I peeled off. It was still $3,455.96 in November. I caught it just went they marked it down again on the first.

One of those is probably the one I got. The seller sold a bunch of them (said he got them from a business that was upgrading.) I have yet to actually lay hands on one, and it hasn't shipped yet, but I'll definitely update everyone here. My machine that I'm typing this on has a build date of 2/02/2015, so if the second one is a little "fresher" I'll be happy.

I have no major issues with mine, but occasionally the screen will flash quickly in spots. I've heard it's common when using 4K displays with these machines, though.

 

[MisterAndrew]

I haven’t experienced any screen flashes or flickers on any of mine with a 4K monitor. I’ve had all three graphics cards too. There’s a screen flicker thread here where someone explained it’s most likely due to GPUs that have been heat damaged. The only remedy is replacement. Then set a good fan profile with one of the 3rd party apps like iStat Menus to prevent overheating the new ones. Apple’s fan profile totally fails to keep the system adequately cooled. In Anandtech’s 2014 review the CPU and GPUs hit 97 degrees C during testing. I don’t know if Apple improved the fan profile at all during the years since, but it doesn’t look like it.