Pro Display XDR - Owners Thread

[chef_pooh]

For anyone else trying to use this monitor on Windows.

I've got the Pro XDR Display working at 6k60 10bit over Thunderbolt 3/4 with the Asus ProArt X670E motherboard (JHL8540 TB4 controller). To achieve this required other peripherals, in particular the CalDigit TS4 and Belkin Charge and Sync Cable.

Here's the cable flow:

RTX 4090 -> DisplayPort Cable -> Asus ProArt X670E -> TB4/TB3 Cable -> CalDigit <- Belkin Cable (DisplayPort 1.4, 2x USB 2.0) <- Pro XDR Display (USB-C with Alt-Mode).

Instead of using the USB ports on the Pro XDR Display, which are forced to operate at USB 2.0, I use the plethora of USB ports on the CalDigit TS4, which gives full speed ports.

 

[joevt]

For anyone else trying to use this monitor on Windows.

I've got the Pro XDR Display working at 6k60 10bit over Thunderbolt 3/4 with the Asus ProArt X670E motherboard (JHL8540 TB4 controller). To achieve this required other peripherals, in particular the CalDigit TS4 and Belkin Charge and Sync Cable.

Here's the cable flow:

RTX 4090 -> DisplayPort Cable -> Asus ProArt X670E -> TB4/TB3 Cable -> CalDigit <- Belkin Cable (DisplayPort 1.4, 2x USB 2.0) <- Pro XDR Display (USB-C with Alt-Mode).

Instead of using the USB ports on the Pro XDR Display, which are forced to operate at USB 2.0, I use the plethora of USB ports on the CalDigit TS4, which gives full speed ports.

Did you get different behaviour by not using the dock?
RTX 4090 -> DisplayPort Cable -> Asus ProArt X670E <- Belkin Cable (DisplayPort 1.4, 2x USB 2.0) <- Pro XDR Display (USB-C with Alt-Mode).

Or by not using Thunderbolt?
RTX 4090 <- Belkin Cable (DisplayPort 1.4, 2x USB 2.0) <- Pro XDR Display (USB-C with Alt-Mode).

 

[chef_pooh]

RTX 4090 -> DisplayPort Cable -> Asus ProArt X670E <- Belkin Cable (DisplayPort 1.4, 2x USB 2.0) <- Pro XDR Display (USB-C with Alt-Mode).

Connecting the RTX 4090 via DisplayPort to the Asus ProArt X670E's DP IN is unnecessary if you're using just Belkin Cable. You can instead just plug it in directly to your GPU. So the following works -- but with USB2 speeds:

RTX 4090 <- Belkin Cable (1x DisplayPort 1.4) -\
-------------------------------------------------------}-> Pro XDR Display (USB-C with Alt Mode).
Motherboard <- Belkin Cable (2x USB2)---------/

RTX 4090 <- Belkin Cable (DisplayPort 1.4, 2x USB 2.0) <- Pro XDR Display (USB-C with Alt-Mode).

IIUC, this is what I wrote above. The only difference is I explicitly broke out the DisplayPort vs USB2 cables that go into the GPU vs Motherboard. But I think we're saying the same thing.

So to recap:

Using the TS4 as outlined in #751 provides 6k60 10bpc over Thunderbolt 4, which provides access to 10GB/s USB3.2 ports (and even a few additional 40GB/s TB4/USB4 ports) on the TS4 Hub. Note that the Pro XDR Display's USB Hubs will still function, but only at USB2 speeds (i.e. 480MB/s), so I basically use them only for keyboard, mouse, and web cam. For high performance peripherals, I use the TS4 ports, whose bandwidth will be constrained by the Pro XDR Display's resolution, which consumes most of the 40GB/s. Unfortunately, the Asus ProArt X670E only has one JHL8540 controller whose total 40GB/s bandwidth is shared across both USB4/TB4 inputs, meaning I can't get around this constraint with this motherboard. There may be motherboards that don't have this constraint, but I'm unsure.

The only downside I've seen so far is that the Pro XDR Display doesn't turn on until the Windows login screen is reached, but otherwise it works great. EDIT: This seems to work now. I think it requires you to boot into Windows once, and subsequent resets will show the pre-boot BIOS screen. But either way, you can force boot into BIOS through Windows, so this isn't really an issue.

That being said, it shouldn't be this hard. There's clearly a bug in Intel's JHL8540 controller, which is embarrassing since Intel makes the Thunderbolt spec. I've sent a technical report to ASUS (including the workaround), and I hope they're able to work with Intel to push out a firmware update to their Thunderbolt controllers. Pro work flows shouldn't require such expensive workarounds on Windows when using Apple peripherals, but, alas, here we are.

 

[joevt]

Connecting the RTX 4090 via DisplayPort to the Asus ProArt X670E's DP IN is unnecessary if you're using just Belkin Cable. You can instead just plug it in directly to your GPU. So the following works -- but with USB2 speeds:

RTX 4090 <- Belkin Cable (1x DisplayPort 1.4) -\
-------------------------------------------------------}-> Pro XDR Display (USB-C with Alt Mode).
Motherboard <- Belkin Cable (2x USB2)---------/

IIUC, this is what I wrote above. The only difference is I explicitly broke out the DisplayPort vs USB2 cables that go into the GPU vs Motherboard. But I think we're saying the same thing.

You said the dock was required in #751 but now you say it's unnecessary.

So to recap:

Using the TS4 as outlined in #751 provides 6k60 10bpc over Thunderbolt 4, which provides access to 10GB/s USB3.2 ports (and even a few additional 40GB/s TB4/USB4 ports) on the TS4 Hub.

The TS4 is just for providing more ports (10 Gbps USB ports or 40 Gbps TB4, etc.). It is not required for 6K60 10bpc.

Note that the Pro XDR Display's USB Hubs will still function, but only at USB2 speeds (i.e. 480MB/s), so I basically use them only for keyboard, mouse, and web cam. For high performance peripherals, I use the TS4 ports, whose bandwidth will be constrained by the Pro XDR Display's resolution, which consumes most of the 40GB/s.

If you're using Windows or a Belkin cable, then the XDR only uses HBR2 link rate for 6K. That mode requires less bandwidth than 4K because it uses DSC, so the dock still has over 24 Gbps of bandwidth for data devices.
A 5K mode that doesn't use DSC could use dual HBR2 which would leave only 11 Gbps for data. But probably the XDR + 2080 will do 5K HBR2 with DSC just like the 6K mode.
The 6K mode that uses dual HBR3 (for GPUs that don't support DSC) is not possible in Windows or Linux as far as I know. That mode would leave only 1 Gbps for data.

Unfortunately, the Asus ProArt X670E only has one JHL8540 controller whose total 40GB/s bandwidth is shared across both USB4/TB4 inputs, meaning I can't get around this constraint with this motherboard. There may be motherboards that don't have this constraint, but I'm unsure.

I'm not sure what constraint you need to get around.
There's one JHL8540 controller. It has PCIe 3.0 x4 (≈3500 MB/s) to the CPU but the limit is probably around 24 Gbps (3000 MB/s) to both Thunderbolt ports. It also has dual HBR3 inputs (up to 25.92 Gbps each).
Motherboards with integrated Thunderbolt controller may have higher dual Thunderbolt port bandwidth (such as Ice Lake or Tiger Lake used in laptops - Ice Lake was measured up to 4600 MB/s for two ports of a Thunderbolt controller).

The only downside I've seen so far is that the Pro XDR Display doesn't turn on until the Windows login screen is reached, but otherwise it works great.

That being said, it shouldn't be this hard. There's clearly a bug in Intel's JHL8540 controller, which is embarrassing since Intel makes the Thunderbolt spec. I've sent a technical report to ASUS (including the workaround), and I hope they're able to work with Intel to push out a firmware update to their Thunderbolt controllers. Pro work flows shouldn't require such expensive workarounds on Windows when using Apple peripherals, but, alas, here we are.

Back to the first question, is the Belkin cable sufficient or is the dock required? I suppose just the cable is expensive enough but having to use a Thunderbolt dock is on another level. Really, the XDR should be able to just connect with a Thunderbolt cable to your motherboard's Thunderbolt port. Did you try a normal USB-C (non-Thunderbolt) cable? It would allow Thunderbolt 2 speed of 20 Gbps which is still enough for 6K60 10bpc with DSC. If Thunderbolt 3 is a problem, then maybe so would Thunderbolt 2, except with Thunderbolt 2 there is no possibility of a dual HBR3 connection. Or it may connect as DisplayPort Alt Mode with USB 2.0 like the Belkin cable.

 

[chef_pooh]

You said the dock was required in #751 but now you say it's unnecessary.

The dock is required to get the Pro XDR Display running over Thunderbolt and functioning (i.e. not a black screen). If you don't care about Thunderbolt, the dock is not required and the Belkin cable works fine. I've said this very explicitly a few times now, so I'd suggest you re-read my previous comments carefully if you're still confused.

The TS4 is just for providing more ports (10 Gbps USB ports or 40 Gbps TB4, etc.). It is not required for 6K60 10bpc.

That's not quite right. The TS4 doesn't just provide more ports, it provides high speed ports with 1 cable connected to my PC since it's working over TB4 instead of USB2. I also never said it's required for 6k60 10bpc. It's well known that can plug in the Belkin cable from the Pro XDR into most modern GPUs to achieve 6k60 10bpc, which is how I've previously used the Pro XDR on Windows for the last 3 years (albeit with slow peripherals).

If you're using Windows or a Belkin cable, then the XDR only uses HBR2 link rate for 6K. That mode requires less bandwidth than 4K because it uses DSC, so the dock still has over 24 Gbps of bandwidth for data devices.

Good to know the TS4 dock has up to 24GB/s of bandwidth for my peripherals, that's awesome. Is there a way I can check what protocol is used for the display to validate that, or a synthetic benchmark I could use to try and saturate the data?

I'm not sure what constraint you need to get around.
There's one JHL8540 controller. It has PCIe 3.0 x4 (≈3500 MB/s) to the CPU but the limit is probably around 24 Gbps (3000 MB/s) to both Thunderbolt ports. It also has dual HBR3 inputs (up to 25.92 Gbps each).
Motherboards with integrated Thunderbolt controller may have higher dual Thunderbolt port bandwidth (such as Ice Lake or Tiger Lake used in laptops - Ice Lake was measured up to 4600 MB/s for two ports of a Thunderbolt controller).

I'm not trying to get around any constraint. I'm making it clear to future readers that despite two USB4/TB4 ports on the Motherboard, there's in fact only one controller whose 40GB/s is shared between both. You'd need a Thunderbolt expansion card to do more if that's important for your use case (it's not for mine). Despite not having a TB4 header on this motherboard, it'll probably work with enough effort with just PCI-E.

Back to the first question, is the Belkin cable sufficient or is the dock required? I suppose just the cable is expensive enough but having to use a Thunderbolt dock is on another level. Really, the XDR should be able to just connect with a Thunderbolt cable to your motherboard's Thunderbolt port. Did you try a normal USB-C (non-Thunderbolt) cable? It would allow Thunderbolt 2 speed of 20 Gbps which is still enough for 6K60 10bpc with DSC. If Thunderbolt 3 is a problem, then maybe so would Thunderbolt 2, except with Thunderbolt 2 there is no possibility of a dual HBR3 connection. Or it may connect as DisplayPort Alt Mode with USB 2.0 like the Belkin cable.

I'm confused about what's not been clear. I'd suggest re-reading my posts a few times and/or asking very pointed questions. Happy to help if I better understand the question.

My best guess of what you're asking is "Do you need the Belkin Cable connected to the TS4 Dock for the dGPU on the Pro Art X670E to work over TB4 if the dGPU is connected to the Pro Art X670E via DisplayPort?" The answer to that question is "Unfortunately, yes" if you want to use the USB-powered controls on the display. If you don't care about the USB controls on the display (or BootCamp Manager), then I'd imagine a high quality USB-C (Pro XDR) to DisplayPort (TS4) cable would suffice. That being said, if you substitute the Belkin Cable for an Intel-certified TB4 cable or Apple's included TB3 cable, then the Pro XDR won't turn on -- regardless if the Motherboard is connected directly to the TS4 Hub or the Pro XDR. As I've mentioned earlier, you can get around this by disconnecting the DisplayPort pass through between the dGPU and Motherboard, which forces the 7950x's iGPU to power the Pro XDR at 6k60 10bpc, which it happily does. But the 7950x has a terrible iGPU, so even scrolling through Chrome at 6k60 is laggy. And then there's non trivial framebuffer copies between the dGPU and iGPU required to use the dGPU on a per-app basis, which is tedious to set in Windows. So that's not a solution I'm willing to settle for, though may be fine for some people.

If your question is "Do you need the TS4 Dock to achieve 6k60 10bpc using the dGPU?" Then answer to that is obviously "no", but you'll need to connect your high speed peripherals another way. And if you happen to be using multiple computers like I am, you'll need to be OK with constantly connecting those cables to other computers as you work throughout the day.

 

[joevt]

Good to know the TS4 dock has up to 24GB/s of bandwidth for my peripherals, that's awesome. Is there a way I can check what protocol is used for the display to validate that, or a synthetic benchmark I could use to try and saturate the data?

Lowercase b for bits. Not Uppercase B for bytes.

The display is always using DisplayPort. You can check if it's HBR2 or HBR3 (but only on an Intel Mac) with AGDCDiagnose or my AllRez tool which dumps a lot of display related info from the system (including DisplayPort DPCD info that show the link rate and lanes and AGDCDiagnose info).

You can use SwitchResX to view the pixel clock of the current resolution. Multiply that by 12 for DSC bandwidth (12 bpp). Multiple by 30 for non-DSC bandwidth (10 bpc). The bandwidth is basically what amount is used for transmitting over Thunderbolt. The remaining bandwidth can be used for transmitting data up to the max of ≈22 Gbps (up to 24 or 25 in some situations). Since display bandwidth is mostly one way, there should not be a big reduction in data receive bandwidth but I haven't seen anyone test that with an XDR at 6K60 on a Mac that doesn't support DSC (in which case only 1 Gbps is available for transmit).

For data, you need an actual device like an NVMe storage device (use AmorphousDiskMark.app or ATTO Disk Benchmark.app) or an eGPU (only for Intel Macs - use CL!ng.app).

 

[chef_pooh]

Cool, thanks for the details. One caveat though: I imagine Apple's Thunderbolt controller is different than Intel's JHL8540, right? So, in theory, the way my Mac negotiates how to use the TB connection could be different than what my PC decides to use it, right? For example, we just saw this with how my JHl8540 negotiated something that refused to turn on my Pro XDR when connected directly to Thunderbolt, whereas Apple's TB controller obviously does the right thing.

Maybe the two systems less likely to diverge now that the TS4 is aggregating the DisplayPort and USB2 into a new TB signal?

 

[joevt]

Maybe the two systems less likely to diverge now that the TS4 is aggregating the DisplayPort and USB2 into a new TB signal?

There may be some benefit or at least a difference with using Thunderbolt from a dock connected to an Apple Silicon Mac compared to Thunderbolt directly from an Apple Silicon Mac.

 

[etc]

I'm using a Pro Art X670E, which has a JHL 8540 Maple Ridge controller. Using the iGPU, the TB4 port works at full 6k60 at 10bpc with true Thunderbolt speeds (AFAIK). However, when I provide the DP-IN pass through from the RTX 4090 to the Motherboard, the screen goes black. I've Chrome Remote Desktop'ed into the PC when the screen is black, and the Display is connected at 6k60...but with 6bpc, which I don't think the Pro XDR Display supports (maybe that's why the screen is black).

Any suggestions?

In the mean time, I've been using Windows's feature of setting the dGPU on a per-app basis. However, the 7950x's iGPU is pretty weak -- even default animations in Windows 11 are laggy, and there's no way to have the dGPU run the desktop (I've tried).

I suppose it works in USB-C Alt Mode instead of TB, but only with iGPU in your case.

Using DP-IN should work at 5K@10bpc + HDR at least. In my case it does not allow dual HBR3 or DSC

 

[etc]

Really, the XDR should be able to just connect with a Thunderbolt cable to your motherboard's Thunderbolt port. Did you try a normal USB-C (non-Thunderbolt) cable? It would allow Thunderbolt 2 speed of 20 Gbps which is still enough for 6K60 10bpc with DSC. If Thunderbolt 3 is a problem, then maybe so would Thunderbolt 2, except with Thunderbolt 2 there is no possibility of a dual HBR3 connection. Or it may connect as DisplayPort Alt Mode with USB 2.0 like the Belkin cable.

Mine Z590 Vision with TB4 (the same JHL8540) controller and single DP-IN does not allow DSC through it, so 5K@12bpc + HDR is the maximum resolution available. I couldn't get 6K through TB. Only various DP+USB-C options I tried and all these work at 6K60 (with DSC, obviously) and USB 2.0:

- Moshi USB-C cable (no USB)
- Wacom Link Plus
- Dell 0WYY76 (Sunix UPD2018) PCI-E USB-C + DP IN card
- RTX 2080 Ti USB-C VirtualLink port

Haven't tried yet in macOS because I don't have compatible card with DSC support at the moment.

 

[joevt]

Mine Z590-E with TB4 (the same JHL8540) controller and single DP-IN does not allow DSC through it, so 5K@12bpc + HDR is the maximum resolution available. I couldn't get 6K through TB. Only various DP+USB-C options I tried and all these work at 6K60 (with DSC, obviously) and USB 2.0:

- Moshi USB-C cable (no USB)
- Wacom Link Plus
- Dell 0WYY76 (Sunix UPD2018) PCI-E USB-C + DP IN card
- RTX 2080 Ti USB-C VirtualLink port

Haven't tried yet in macOS because I don't have compatible card with DSC support at the moment.

Might be nice to know what the DPCD looks like in Windows or Linux to see if the XDR is hiding it's DSC capability with certain connection types.

But I don't think 5K@12bpc is possible without DSC. Without DSC, you need a dual HBR2 connection and the 2560x2880 mode for each uses pixel clock of 481.11 MHz which exceeds the max of 480 MHz for HBR2 12bpc. A single DP-IN can only provide one HBR2 connection.

Maybe the XDR is just giving you an incorrect EDID? Did you check it for a 6K60 mode? If it's missing, you might just need to add the 6K mode using CRU.

 

[etc]

But I don't think 5K@12bpc is possible without DSC. Without DSC, you need a dual HBR2 connection and the 2560x2880 mode for each uses pixel clock of 481.11 MHz which exceeds the max of 480 MHz for HBR2 12bpc. A single DP-IN can only provide one HBR2 connection.

Maybe the XDR is just giving you an incorrect EDID? Did you check it for a 6K60 mode? If it's missing, you might just need to add the 6K mode using CRU.

Well, I'll check it again, not sure about 12bpc. 6K60 was missing and I remember that I tried to add it. But it didn't work though appeared in the settings.

 

[joevt]

Well, I'll check it again, not sure about 12bpc. 6K60 was missing and I remember that I tried to add it. But it didn't work though appeared in the settings.

With only an HBR2 connection and no DSC, you can get 5K60 6bpc. You can maybe get 5K47 8bpc or 5K37 10bpc with custom timings.

 

[etc]

With only an HBR2 connection and no DSC, you can get 5K60 6bpc. You can maybe get 5K47 8bpc or 5K37 10bpc with custom timings.

Nope, I get up to 5K60 12bpc (also 8 and 10) + HDR:

I use TB cable in this case. Unfortunately I get no boot screen.

 

[joevt]

Nope, I get up to 5K60 12bpc (also 8 and 10) + HDR:

I use TB cable in this case. Unfortunately I get no boot screen.

Must be using DSC with single HBR2 connection. Windows doesn't tell you when it is using DSC. You need something that will examine the DPCD of the DisplayPort connection. Maybe try looking at the Advanced tab of GPU-Z.

 

[ascender]

I've just taken the plunge and ordered one of these from Apple. I know there's a new one expected, but I've been trying so many combinations of displays this last while - ultra wide; single ASD; multiple ASD etc when all I really want is a larger, single Apple display. Dual monitors aren't working for me and any of the non-Apple displays have some sort of limiting factor - whether its scaled resolutions which don't work or aren't present or the other bugbear is that they won't wake from sleep every time - so the XDR really is the only option out there.

All I need to do now is get a set of speakers for it. I managed to get a sealed VESA mount adapter from eBay for half the price Apple want and I already had a 4K webcam.

 

[tstafford]

I've just taken the plunge and ordered one of these from Apple. I know there's a new one expected, but I've been trying so many combinations of displays this last while - ultra wide; single ASD; multiple ASD etc when all I really want is a larger, single Apple display. Dual monitors aren't working for me and any of the non-Apple displays have some sort of limiting factor - whether its scaled resolutions which don't work or aren't present or the other bugbear is that they won't wake from sleep every time - so the XDR really is the only option out there.

All I need to do now is get a set of speakers for it. I managed to get a sealed VESA mount adapter from eBay for half the price Apple want and I already had a 4K webcam.

Based on some other posts you and I may have similar tastes and I think you're going to like it a lot. I had one for a while. It is easily the best looking display I have ever seen. I miss it. It's simply gorgeous. You're looking at the thing all the time - why not get something super nice?

I prefer a multiple display set up and don't need the pro-level stuff of the XDR so I ultimately decided on three ASD vs. the XDR. However if I only wanted one display, it would be the XDR for sure.

Two things to consider:
- Vivid: https://www.getvivid.app/ This is a pretty cool little app that allows you to take advantage of the XDR's (or MacBook Pro's) full brightness capability even in non-HDR content. Probably less of a concern with the XDR since you're indoors, but it's cool nonetheless. 600 nits is bright, but 1000 is REALLY bright

- Speakers: a personal choice for sure. But I'd suggest looking at the Kanto YU2. They are compact, sound good, work pretty well with my Studio. I added the sub - I'd say it's a requirement. Personally I find the ASD speakers disappointing but the YU2 is perfect for my space and budget (maybe $450 all in)

Congrats on the purchase. I'm envious!

 

[ascender]

Based on some other posts you and I may have similar tastes and I think you're going to like it a lot. I had one for a while. It is easily the best looking display I have ever seen. I miss it. It's simply gorgeous. You're looking at the thing all the time - why not get something super nice?

I prefer a multiple display set up and don't need the pro-level stuff of the XDR so I ultimately decided on three ASD vs. the XDR. However if I only wanted one display, it would be the XDR for sure.

Two things to consider:
- Vivid: https://www.getvivid.app/ This is a pretty cool little app that allows you to take advantage of the XDR's (or MacBook Pro's) full brightness capability even in non-HDR content. Probably less of a concern with the XDR since you're indoors, but it's cool nonetheless. 600 nits is bright, but 1000 is REALLY bright

- Speakers: a personal choice for sure. But I'd suggest looking at the Kanto YU2. They are compact, sound good, work pretty well with my Studio. I added the sub - I'd say it's a requirement. Personally I find the ASD speakers disappointing but the YU2 is perfect for my space and budget (maybe $450 all in)

Congrats on the purchase. I'm envious!

Thanks for taking the time to post. Yes... I've tried so many different things so am pretty confident the XDR is the setup I need. I almost bought one back at the start of all of this... should have listened to my original instinct!

I only use the ASD speakers for audio from conference calls and system alerts - I've been using HomePods for music, but want a set of speakers I can just plug-in to the Mac Studio and leave, so thanks for the tip on the Kanto speakers, I'll go check them out now. I'll have a look at that app too, sounds good!

Thanks!

Edited to say... What's really weird is that I've become a Stage Manager convert on the Mac. I hated it when I first used it, but now really like using it to give me focus on doing one thing at a time whilst still being aware of the other apps. This is another reason for going down to one screen.

 

[ascender]

Waiting for stuff to come from China is so annoying when you're used to being able to get it next day from the UK or even same day with store collection!

Patience...

 

[Man on the moon]

I've just taken the plunge and ordered one of these from Apple. I know there's a new one expected, but I've been trying so many combinations of displays this last while - ultra wide; single ASD; multiple ASD etc when all I really want is a larger, single Apple display. Dual monitors aren't working for me and any of the non-Apple displays have some sort of limiting factor - whether its scaled resolutions which don't work or aren't present or the other bugbear is that they won't wake from sleep every time - so the XDR really is the only option out there.

All I need to do now is get a set of speakers for it. I managed to get a sealed VESA mount adapter from eBay for half the price Apple want and I already had a 4K webcam.

Congrats from other thread I’m about to order it myself in a week or two.

 

[ascender]

Congrats from other thread I’m about to order it myself in a week or two.

Apparently it will be here tomorrow, so will be interesting to see how it compares to the ASD.

 

[tstafford]

Apparently it will be here tomorrow, so will be interesting to see how it compares to the ASD.

It will compare favorable on all dimensions! Brighter, bigger, more real estate due to size and resolution but maybe most amazingly is it will feel even better built. It's a functioning work of art.

 

[ascender]

Wow.

Very impressed with it. It's a few years old now so everything has been said about it, but it's a fabulous screen and it's so nice having such a big, bright space to work with. I guess Apple haven't made something this big since the old Cinema Display?

I had both on the desk at one point and its amazing the difference that extra space makes.

I won't lie, it would be perfect if it had a built-in camera and speakers, but I'm happy to make that trade-off for the extra screen space. Will have a look through this thread for other tips etc. I bought a part of those Kanto speakers @tstafford and they're great, thanks for that. Will check the app you recommended next.

 

[machenryr]

I just ordered the nano version, after a silly mistake I made buying the wrong display. I got the ASD instead. I need a 3m thunderbolt cable. I bought a 3m 4k that worked FINALLY with the ASD, before I realized we bought the wrong display. Will this work with the Pro or do I have to get a 3m 6k?

Thanks. I hope this question makes sense.

So I have the 3m thunderbolt Pro 4 cable. I’m assuming this is the one I’ll need.

 

[GILLEE90]

hello. I have been using belkin VR cable on my PC and XDR display with 6k without isssues, and swtiched to z690i msi motherboard which supports DP-in and TB4 output, expecting that it would output 6k to XDR without hassle. but maximum resolution i'm getting is 5k 60hz.. what am i doing worng? or it's just that?