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Pro Display XDR - Owners Thread
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Apple has a limit on how many registered devices one can have, right?
So imagine having a multi-screen setup ...
So imagine having a multi-screen setup ...
Should be like MBP XDRs
- miniLED backlight (40000 leds, 10k zones?);
- ProMotion 120 Hz with backward compatibility (60 Hz for older devices);
- thinner;
- more expensive ($6999 for the sake of inflation).
Normal DisplayPort 1.4 can do 6K120 if you use DSC @ 9bpp instead of the usual 12bpp.
I think Thunderbolt 5 can do UHBR20 (77.37 Gbps) which requires 29bpp to do 6K120. That's almost 0 compression.
Thunderbolt 5 can do 120 Gbps, which can handle a couple UHBR13.5 connections (52.22 Gbps each) or a couple UHBR20 connections if they are limited to <60 Gbps each.
The display could be like the existing XDR and use a connection for each half of the display but that was only necessary to support GPUs that don't support DSC. The connections were HBR3 (25.92 Gbps) but limited to ≈19 Gbps each to fit in Thunderbolt 3. The existing XDR used HBR2 with DSC @12bpp for GPUs that support DSC (bandwidth less than that of uncompressed 4K60).
I think Thunderbolt 5 can do UHBR20 (77.37 Gbps) which requires 29bpp to do 6K120. That's almost 0 compression.
Thunderbolt 5 can do 120 Gbps, which can handle a couple UHBR13.5 connections (52.22 Gbps each) or a couple UHBR20 connections if they are limited to <60 Gbps each.
The display could be like the existing XDR and use a connection for each half of the display but that was only necessary to support GPUs that don't support DSC. The connections were HBR3 (25.92 Gbps) but limited to ≈19 Gbps each to fit in Thunderbolt 3. The existing XDR used HBR2 with DSC @12bpp for GPUs that support DSC (bandwidth less than that of uncompressed 4K60).
I think this is what Apple was waiting for. Maybe announcement at wwdc next year with redesign MP? M4 ultra running 3 of these displays at 120hz 6k? wow
I use BetterDisplay for 3008x1692 when Screen Sharing my 2013 Mac Pro.
What is the current price for out of warranty replacement? $3000 or $3200? Do you have to mail back the broken one if you don't have the box or do they send you a box or make you go to the store? Thank you
Hey there!
I have 3 of these boards from 2 different sellers, but none of them are transferring data via usb, which makes my bootcamp not work and my monitor is not detected in device manager via usb.
I first thought that there are some settings in the bios to activate usb data transfer to the board, but there are none.
I already ordered a belkin cable from desperation, but it was lost.
I thought maybe someone on the forum has an extra working board? I am willing to pay more.
Thanks.
I have 3 of these boards from 2 different sellers, but none of them are transferring data via usb, which makes my bootcamp not work and my monitor is not detected in device manager via usb.
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I first thought that there are some settings in the bios to activate usb data transfer to the board, but there are none.
I already ordered a belkin cable from desperation, but it was lost.
I thought maybe someone on the forum has an extra working board? I am willing to pay more.
Thanks.
Did you try other USB-C devices with these cards? I don't believe that all of them are broken. The problem is in Windows settings/drivers or BIOS settings. I guess you get display output only?Hey there!
I have 3 of these boards from 2 different sellers, but none of them are transferring data via usb, which makes my bootcamp not work and my monitor is not detected in device manager via usb.
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I first thought that there are some settings in the bios to activate usb data transfer to the board, but there are none.
I already ordered a belkin cable from desperation, but it was lost.
I thought maybe someone on the forum has an extra working board? I am willing to pay more.
Thanks.
Yes, I have tried other usb devices, all of them are only getting power.
I also tried other PCs with other motherboards, but it didn't work there either.
I looked at the drivers, they are installed and windows won't let me update them.
In the bios I found the settings for internal usb boards and enabled that, but it didn't help.
Possibly. Not only unlucky.
If you have enabled any settings, please share with me.
That's interesting, I have Z590 Vision board, but BIOS is not the latest. Were these motheboards you tried the same?
I remember flashing firmware in TB3 controller with a cheap ch341 flasher with a clip. It wasn't difficult to do.
The boards I have tried they are modern z790 asus rog apex and encore.
I don't know how to update the firmware or where to get it, but I think I better wait for the belkin cable.
Do you know what the problems are with this cable? The belkin one has a separate usb power supply.
Or should I consider the asus board ?
Thanks.
I think Belkin cable is less stable than PCI-E card. I'd try to find the way to flash it first if that's a known problem and there's a solution.
Heyy there.
Regarding Dell usb boards for modern hardware, they can be flashed, but only on older motherboards. Because by default, those who have modern z690 or newer usb for data transfer will not work. Since I have tried all revisions of these usb boards. A working alternative is ASUS usb4 PCI board, but sometimes the image disappears after loading windows, maybe I had problems with the drivers, but I just did not deal with it because I came to me a new cable belkin - with him everything works without problems. So for modern hardware it is better to buy it to save yourself the headache.
Also I noticed a strange thing, windows 10-11, after turning on HDR, auto brightness works only visually working slider in the bootcamp control panel, but the screen itself does not change brightness. Has anyone encountered this or is this the way it should be?
I wanted to ask you guys whether your Pro Display behaves the same way as mine:
I have the Pro Stand and when I'm going back from vertical mode to horizontal mode, there's no auto-lock which will bring the Pro Display in a perfect horizontal position. I have some play of maybe one cm or so when tilting the display on each side, and then it stops (because it's locked and not in the highest position).
This is quite annoying because I'd like to have it perfectly horizontal and it's a useless effort I have to make every time.
Does yours also do this? Is there a trick to have it automatically locked in a perfect position?
I have the Pro Stand and when I'm going back from vertical mode to horizontal mode, there's no auto-lock which will bring the Pro Display in a perfect horizontal position. I have some play of maybe one cm or so when tilting the display on each side, and then it stops (because it's locked and not in the highest position).
This is quite annoying because I'd like to have it perfectly horizontal and it's a useless effort I have to make every time.
Does yours also do this? Is there a trick to have it automatically locked in a perfect position?
The stand has a slight adjustment room, no exact lock. This has been mentioned by many users as well.
Thanks!
Does anyone have a good speaker/microphone solution for the Pro Display XDR? My Studio Display has great speakers and a good microphone and I like how it is well integrated into the system. I bought a HomePod mini and the sound is as good I'd say, probably as good as my Studio Displays's one.
But it's way too complicated. There's way too much unnecessary "technology" behind it. I don't like the whole "spy" aspect it has, it's too much "home technology" and not enough a speaker/mic for me. It lags also. Too much latency. And like I said no microphone, but I'm using the dictate feature a lot.
When listening to music and then the dictator function, it disrupts the music or anything running in the background in an ungood way, nothing is smooth.
So if anyone has a recommendation for something small (approx the same size as the HomePod mini) that can be used for Mac OS system sounds, FaceTiming, watching a video, or music (nothing too serious, just a casual thing in the sound quality of the HomePod mini or the Apple Studio Display) but also has a good integrated microphone for the dictate function or FaceTime, I'd really appreciate any recommendations. Ideally also connected by cable because of the latency.
I have an old pair of Bose computer speakers hooked up in my setup. Simple, more then adequate sound. Check out Companion 2/3/5/20 models, depending on size and features. All long discontinued, but there is plenty of old stock available.
Not the best speakers out there, but simple, clean and more than enough.
Microphone, I just use the one built into my webcam.
Not the best speakers out there, but simple, clean and more than enough.
Microphone, I just use the one built into my webcam.
I have a separate microphone in my webcam too, but it doesn't work that smooth in combination with the HomePod. Thanks for that recommendation, those speakers take up too much space however. The ideal solution would be if the HomePod mini had a good microphone built in and could be connected per cable to the Mac, and without all that Home-BS.
Space-wise it's perfect. It's small, taking up little space, sound is good, and it's visually appealing (I have the yellow one).
For microphone I'd buy an external one if needed.
As speakers I still use my 20 years old 2.1 JetBalance JB-465 system. So no "technology" at all, everything is wired and mid-range speakers are quite small. You just get 60W of very pleasant sound and nothing else.
So my point is to use separate simple devices that perfectly perform their function.