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Kylo83

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Glad 9to5Mac spoke about it, I was the first one to mention it and I got so much abuse for it
 

EnderTW

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Public beta just released today. Maybe I'll give it a shot.

Edit: Installing public beta now. Man I hate how slow the Apple servers are sometimes. 600mbps fiber connection and only getting like 2 MB/sec on a 12GB download.
I've had that issue before, did you try changing DNS server settings?
 

OhMyMy

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Glad 9to5Mac spoke about it, I was the first one to mention it and I got so much abuse for it
You got all that for saying it’s behaving the exact same way as the 60Hz Intel everywhere. 60Hz is only happening in certain areas while other apps work at the full 120Hz.
In essence you were trolling.
 

uecker87

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I've had that issue before, did you try changing DNS server settings?
Ahh yeah I forgot to change it since I set this computer up as new instead of using a Time Machine backup. That sped it up a little bit. Still less than 10MB/s but oh well. Finally almost done downloading, ha.
 

uecker87

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Can confirm that this issue is fixed in the 12.1 Developer beta, if anyone has access download and test for yourself!

And holy crap.. I was wrong before because the difference is noticeable.

Has macOS 12.1 beta 1 fixed it?
I just installed the 12.1 beta and it seems like it kind of fixed it... Still seems like the scroll inertia part of it isn't smooth though. It feels similar to what Edge and Chrome feel like on 12.0.1.

Idk. I've spent way too much time looking at scrolling and not enough time enjoying the rest of the laptop. I should just go on in ignorance of issues. :D
 

AppleChainLink

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I just installed the 12.1 beta and it seems like it kind of fixed it... Still seems like the scroll inertia part of it isn't smooth though. It feels similar to what Edge and Chrome feel like on 12.0.1.

Idk. I've spent way too much time looking at scrolling and not enough time enjoying the rest of the laptop. I should just go on in ignorance of issues. :D
Well f that’s a disappointment.
 

uecker87

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Oct 9, 2014
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Well f that’s a disappointment.
Yeah definitely still not as smooth as the Apple News app.

But maybe I'm expecting too much. If you set the refresh rate to 60Hz and check them both out, Apple News is like 10x smoother feeling even at the lower frame rate.

Safari looks 10x better in Promotion vs set at 60Hz on 12.1 beta, I can tell you that. I forget if it was even different looking in 12.0.1 on promotion vs 60Hz.
 
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EnderTW

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Can you guys post videos comparing the two I think WilliamG or someone did comparing news and safari.
 

Kylo83

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I just can’t put the beta on the new MacBook lol I hope by the time it’s final it will be fixed, now 9to5 reported it apple might do something
 

EnderTW

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it looks choppy with the recording but compare the choppiness, I'm not seeing a difference.

wait lol I would need to record this on my iPhone at 240fps probably
 
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MDMac

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it looks choppy with the recording but compare the choppiness, I'm not seeing a difference.

wait lol I would need to record this on my iPhone at 240fps probably
I can still tell a difference despite this not being in slow motion. Scrolling is Safari feels much more fatiguing to my eyes.
 

Kylo83

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I can still tell a difference despite this not being in slow motion. Scrolling is Safari feels much more fatiguing to my eyes.
That’s interesting I might jump on the beta to do some tests, I noticed right away it wasn’t butter smooth compared to other apps
 

Kylo83

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Would be interesting if someone has to MacBook Pro’s both with promotion and one on beta and test side by side
 

MDMac

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Just did a screen capture and the difference is much more perceptible in real life. The capture does show the issue, especially when it is slowed down, but I feel it doesn't have the same impact.
 
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