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PSA! Up to iOS 10.3 Re-Signing!
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According to ipsw.me, yes - and also 6.1.3 for iPad 2 is being signed. However, according to Neal's TSSstatus API (https://api.ineal.me/tss/status) 6.1.3 is not signed for either of these devices. Not sure which site is correct in this manner - ipsw.me claims to fetch data every minute from Neal's TSSstatus API however they appear to be completely out of sync.
On a side note, they have now started signing every single 11.x version for all devices that support iOS 11, according to https://api.ineal.me/tss/status. See the attached examples of signing status for iP5S and iP7. However, according to ipsw.me only 11.2.x is signed. Oh, who to trust?
[doublepost=1515691645][/doublepost]The downgrading debate is interesting. On one hand - not allowing users to install older firmwares effectively kills off OS fragmentation which has been a huge problem in the Android camp ever since they first started making Android phones, due to the fact that all Android phone manufacturers have their own heavily modified carrier-specific OS version and so on. This makes life easier for developers since they don't have to work with outdated software frameworks such as the SDK for iOS 6. It also improves security for users since you are unable to install an older version of the OS which might, perhaps unbeknownst to you, include fatal security holes such as Spectre/Meltdown.
On the other hand, allowing users to install any version of iOS just as users can install any version of OS X or Windows on their computer (given that the computer's hardware technically supports that version) means giving users a choice. Perhaps your device is used for a specific purpose and using an older firmware gives you the performance advantage you need - for instance, I have an old 3GS which is solely used to play music on a Bose speaker system with a 30-pin dock; I barely ever take it out of the dock. I keep it on iOS 4 because the Spotify app performs waaaay better on the older firmware than on iOS 6. However - I were to use it as my actual everyday smartphone, I'd put iOS 6 on it and take the performance hit just to get access to stuff like iMessage, iCloud syncing etc. Or you might need to run an older app which hasn't been updated for iOS 11 compatibility, for personal or professional use. Downgrading firmwares could also be of practical use to developers who want to make sure that their app runs the same on every iOS version that it supports - I think you can do this with the iPhone simulator but if I were a developer, I'd sure prefer to test it out on actual hardware running the iOS version in question. In this case, every coin really does have two sides
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10.3.3 signed for iPhone8,1 (6s) according to Neal's site. So if you're on a 6s and want to go back, it appears that now is your chance
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Interesting - TSSstatus API says it's not signed for the 4s but ipsw.me says otherwise. I have a 4s lying around, gonna try this myself right now just for the heck of it. Wish I had a 6s so I could confirm if 10.3.3 really is being signed for that device since https://api.ineal.me/tss/status says it is.
Update: was able to restore 4s to 6.1.3 w/ iTunes and regular DFU mode.
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Interesting - TSSstatus API says it's not signed for the 4s but ipsw.me says otherwise. I have a 4s lying around, gonna try this myself right now just for the heck of it. Wish I had a 6s so I could confirm if 10.3.3 really is being signed for that device since https://api.ineal.me/tss/status says it is.
Update: was able to restore 4s to 6.1.3 w/ iTunes and regular DFU mode.
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Gah! I saw your thread last night while the downgrade opportunity was open... but I was at work
By the time I got off work the downgrade window was already closed
Would have really liked to downgrade to 10.2 and avoid having Apple's throttling virus on my 6s.Ah well... 10.3.3 it is
10.3.3 signed for iPhone8,1 (6s) according to Neal's site. So if you're on a 6s and want to go back, it appears that now is your chance
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Interesting - TSSstatus API says it's not signed for the 4s but ipsw.me says otherwise. I have a 4s lying around, gonna try this myself right now just for the heck of it. Wish I had a 6s so I could confirm if 10.3.3 really is being signed for that device since https://api.ineal.me/tss/status says it is.
Update: was able to restore 4s to 6.1.3 w/ iTunes and regular DFU mode.
Is this list accurate?
GSM 7plus looks like signing 11.1.2 according to that site
Get on it if you want jb!
For some reason that website looks a little off... ipsw.me feels like a much more legit site and only shows the 11.2, 11.2.1, and 11.2.2 as being signed.
Hopefully that ineal website is correct and I'm wrong. Hoping to hear back from someone soon who is able to downgrade further beyond the above three iOS versions.
The weird thing about this is that if you go to the very bottom of ipsw.me, it says that it fetches signing status data every minute from Neal's TSSstatus API. But the two are completely out of sync. It appears that ipsw.me is more trustworthy though, since 6.1.3 restores fine on 4S despite Neal's TSSstatus website saying that it's not signed.
[doublepost=1515694892][/doublepost]If anyone has a spare 6s lying around - please try to DFU restore to 10.3.3, it would be interesting to see if https://api.ineal.me/tss/status is correct in saying that 10.3.3 is signed for 6s
Yep, also worth noting if you're on iOS 6 you can OTA update to 8.4.1.10.3.3 signed for iPhone8,1 (6s) according to Neal's site. So if you're on a 6s and want to go back, it appears that now is your chance
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Interesting - TSSstatus API says it's not signed for the 4s but ipsw.me says otherwise. I have a 4s lying around, gonna try this myself right now just for the heck of it. Wish I had a 6s so I could confirm if 10.3.3 really is being signed for that device since https://api.ineal.me/tss/status says it is.
Update: was able to restore 4s to 6.1.3 w/ iTunes and regular DFU mode.
Correct. I believe this is because for some reason users aren't able to go straight from 6.x to 9.x so they keep signing OTA 8.4.1. Just like they sign OTA 6.1.3 because users can't go straight from 5.x to 7.x or higher
Me too. The only device I have that's horrid is my iPad Air. I could've recovered it if I hadn't been sleeping.
**** it. I could have removed the home button delay on my 7 Plus and got back my good battery life. Ah well I am still enjoying the X.
I was hoping to do so too just for fun even though I've replaced it with a pro. wanted to see how it performed on older iOS
My wife got the 8+ and I've messed around with it some. The home button delay isn't really that bad. I'm considering updating my regular 7 from 10.3.3 to 11 but I'm going to give it another day.... I have my series 2 still on 3.2.3 and I want some of the new heart rate features and activity app features of watchOS 4.... it's a tough decision!!!! I'm worried about battery life and performance for both devices but a little bit slower might not bother me.... or maybe it will!! There's no going back though...
it worked on my 5s back to 10.3 on my 5s but my 6 I couldn't while i was downloading the ipsw file the window closed due to bad network I experienced
phone runs very smooth and fast on the 5s back to 10.3 from 11.2.1 , ios 11.2.1 killed my 5s and made it laggy but now back to 10.3 but i'm sad I couldn't do it on my 6
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yes I think so try it if you have the ipsw file downloaded you can try restoring to it and if apple decline your signing no worries just remove the cord and reboot your device back to normal you won't lose your files