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There are many varied and great observations on this thread. I think the most off putting aspect of the S7/S7 Edge for my husband and me is having rogue apps running in the background draining the battery in random and unexpected ways.

Also I was in a VR game with my S7 and inexplicably my S7 just started installing all these other apps that I had copied over from my S7 Edge (and thought had installed already). So my view of the game was constantly blocked by these pop ups informing me of the installations and my phone started heating up.

I find I use my unlocked S7 and S7 Edge (obtained free from AT&T via BOGO) more for entertainment. They share a sim for a phone number I gave out only to my husband and parents. I really love VR, which I understand most people consider a gimmick or for kids. But really I'm blown away by the latest generation Gear VR headset and the quality it can render despite the low cost and the tech being in its infancy. So I'm glad I can keep my Samsungs in use. I also value the ability of the S7 series to record really nice stereo immersive stereo audio for video.

However I'm really impressed by the quality of the camera on my IPhone 7 Plus the subtle upgrade to the haptic feedback and the speakers and so forth. What made it earn its place as my primary phone over my very solid and reliable HTC 10 is iMessage and FaceTime. These communication options are still easier to call up and use than other options and is also what is used by most people I need to keep in regular touch with.

I had a 6S Plus (now given to my favorite sister-in-law) and I think it also holds its own well against the Samsung phones.

Now the problems you encounter with Samsung phones won't necessarily hold true for all Android phones. My HTC 10 was rock solid and I can't recall it crashing except for a day or two after I messed around extensively experimenting with different launchers and apps. It rebounded from that very well. Apps ran on in the background on that but never seemed to drain my battery as much as happens with my and my husband's Samsungs. And battery drain was way worse for my husband because he had at least three times as many apps installed as I did.

I'd have to say though by far my hugest frustration with Marshmallow and Nougat variants of Android is that if your fingerprints fail to register after a few tries, the device will lock you out and it can be a pain to get to where you can manually key in your passcode. On the iPhone the screen pops up right away if your fingerprint fails to register. My HTC 10 very rarely fails to recognize my prints, but my Samsungs are awful at it so I'm often locked out.

On the Android devices I own, instead of the option to enter your passcode popping up, there is this rude little message that says you have to wait 29 or 30 seconds to try again. If you then wait that time and try again the next message pops up adding a full minute! This timer will just keep increasing the lockout timer amount each time you try and fail to get your print recognized. I once got a lockout message for five minutes. Actually my record might have been ten minutes. I don't remember...I have a forum post around here somewhere in which I am fuming about it. At the time I was so new to Android and had to flounder around trying to figure out how to get the option to enter a passcode. Sigh. It's normally not a huge deal but if you're flustered and in a hurry to make a call, like say you want to report a unicorn sighting or something...well...gah!

I also hate the way you have to turn off your alarm. You have to swipe the button away. On iOS you just touch it to turn it off. One morning I somehow swiped the button off the screen without turning off the alarm. I have no idea how I did that. I really don't. It was on the HTC 10. My husband and I were blearily fumbling over the phone trying to get it to shut up. It was not a good morning.

iOS isn't perfect either. Sometimes I get flustered and can't operate iOS properly either. Now as to why I am often so flustered when trying to use smartphones, I guess that's a personal problem and no operating system is going to help me out on that! ;)
 

icymountain

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You are on a near 5 year old Android device that never got updated past ICS, as your example? I'd be having issues with Android too if that were my case! Of course, if I was still rocking an iPhone 4, I'd have similar reservations about iOS.

Except that 100% of the arguments in my post (praise and criticisms at either systems) are related to the software. The hardware is ok, for what I want.
 

kevink2

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With Android, you definitely have more choices for new in box phones. But, especially if on Verizon, you either have inexpensive or good selection of LTE bands. The lower cost phones can't be used on ATT if you decide to change at a later date. Or, you pay as much as an iPhone to get a model that will.

But if I'm going to spend as much as an iPhone, I'll just get an iPhone.
 

kazmac

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I was looking at an Galaxy 7 and I loved the weight of it, but ultimately went with a Moto Z Play. So happy with this phone; the battery life is nuts and I'm pretty comfortable with Android in the span of a couple of days. Yes, there are workarounds and digging coming from iOS and the fingerprint scanner is useless (but I never used that with iPhones anyway); I am very pleased I adapted so quickly.

There is no wrong phone; get what works for you and enjoy it.
 

IowaLynn

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I spent a month on Samsung S7. I think "bloat" from gas and bad diet! Also, starting fresh is way better and reliable. Especially if there was a differ version Android.

I ended up with Blackberry's new DTEK60 which runs smoothly and no glitches.

I would be concerned with adware that games and apps can have an extra payload. Malware is now using routers and "Internet of Things" to for form adbots and serve up ads.

My first 6S+ must have had a bad part, sold it and this time bought Apple refurbished and issues gone. Battery is better, wifi is stable, don't have to be closing background apps to regain control.

Background apps are just sitting there waiting, unless poorly coded. But 6.x and above, better to leave alone. The first week there is a lot of work going on building caches, optimizing, indexing, and of course installing + updating and configuring your system. Normal. It will quiet down.

Handy article - https://forums.androidcentral.com/ambassador-guides-tips-how-s/380592-guide-ram-android.html
 

JackieInCo

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I love my S7 Edge so much that I bought two on pre-release and still have them today. I shattered the display on one Christmas Eve, but up till then after nearly a year of using them, the displays were scratch free. I never had problem with apps crashing and the current OS has gotten to be so polished these days.

I replaced my broken S7 Edge with a brand new unlocked S7 Edge from BestBuy last Monday. It has none of the carrier bloat. The battery life on the unlocked version was nearly double that of my pre-release T-Mobile edge.

I'm pretty much leaving my 6S and 6S+ home these days. I have four lines on my T-Mobile account.

My next phone will be the S8 Edge.
 

Dave245

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This is my personal opinion, but I think the iPhone is still the best smartphone on the market. I have tried Andriod phones in the past and compared to the iPhone they have been bloated, laggy, less reliable, updates are far less often than with IOS. This has been the reason I have gone back to the iPhone and intend to stick with the iOS and the iPhone. But it all comes down to personal preference, I'm not a Samsung fan, their customer service is terrible, but you may have a different opinion, it's all about what you think and how you are finding the devices.
 

sunking101

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I don't care about the 'customisation' argument, and I don't use widgets due to battery drain. However, as a longterm iPhone user I'm enjoying my Android phone. Both iOS and Android have pros & cons but I happen to think Android has slightly more pros....if you're not a Mac/iPad/iPhone person who must have handoff and iMessage etc. I'm expecting to come back for the iPhone 8 but frankly I'm enjoying my foray into the world of Android and my return isn't now a dead cert.

Those who say they tried Android but had to rush back to iOS can't have given it long enough. I picked it up straight away. Samsung devices add additional features to the UI and duplicate apps, so I think a more stock interpretation of Android is better suited for those moving from iOS. Many firms offer a near stock experience, you don't have to get a Google Pixel.
 

silverblack

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As a previous owner of both the S7 Edge and Note 7 I agree with all of these points, but one. I found the fingerprint sensors on the Samsung worked better, faster and under more conditions (like wet fingers). My 7+ works really well too, but there are plenty of times that it either won't read my finger or can take a second to register.

Well it may have something to do with the fingerprint reader on my Edge being all scratched up. By the way, not only the button surface has a soft plastic surface, Samsung also made the home button sticking out of the screen. It is the worst design for preventing scratches.
 

Lloydbm41

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Well it may have something to do with the fingerprint reader on my Edge being all scratched up. By the way, not only the button surface has a soft plastic surface, Samsung also made the home button sticking out of the screen. It is the worst design for preventing scratches.
I never had any issues with the home button. Never had scratches either.
 

rockitdog

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Stick with the S7 Edge, IMO it was the phone of the year. I wish I hadn't gotten rid of it. Feature for feature there isn't another device that can touch it - iPhone included.
 
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frocco

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Do you think it would be smarter to wait and upgrade to the iPhone 8 in September?
 

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One of the things missing from these discussions is security. With Apple controlling the hardware and OS, they are better positioned to support older devices. With Android, there have been times when someone could buy a brand new device that had an older OS version that could NOT be updated to the new version as it wasn't supported. Additionally, when security patches are required, Apple is better positioned to get them out to users much quicker than Android. If the device is supported in the Android world, the manufacturer and/or cell provider must test then release if they desire to do so.

The malware community is well aware of this and it's one of the key reasons why Android is targeted much more often than Apple. I do many things with my iPhone including using Apple Pay that I would not feel comfortable in the Android system. Extra features or maybe a little better hardware just isn't worth the risk to me.
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Do you think it would be smarter to wait and upgrade to the iPhone 8 in September?

Depends on how you go about acquiring the phone and what is available to you. I've never been someone to upgrade every year but with Apples 0% financing program, it just doesn't make sense not to. One of the considerations with that program, though, is having an Apple store close by. This past year, they didn't allow upgrades unless you went to a store to swap the old phone immediately.
 

frocco

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If I keep the s7 edge, I will owe 792.00 to pay off in 24 months. That means I could not upgrade to the iPhone 8 unless I pay at least 50% off. I already had my iPhone 6s+ for one year. The things the S7 have that are nice but not necessary are 4k screen, better notifications. Other than that, to me there is no difference.
 

ukpetey

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I love my S7 Edge so much that I bought two on pre-release and still have them today. I shattered the display on one Christmas Eve, but up till then after nearly a year of using them, the displays were scratch free. I never had problem with apps crashing and the current OS has gotten to be so polished these days.

I replaced my broken S7 Edge with a brand new unlocked S7 Edge from BestBuy last Monday. It has none of the carrier bloat. The battery life on the unlocked version was nearly double that of my pre-release T-Mobile edge.

I'm pretty much leaving my 6S and 6S+ home these days. I have four lines on my T-Mobile account.

My next phone will be the S8 Edge.
So you have two S7 edge phones, and two iPhones ?

Wow! Overkill or lottery winner?
 

JackieInCo

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So you have two S7 edge phones, and two iPhones ?

Wow! Overkill or lottery winner?
Neither. As I said above, I have four lines on T-Mobile for $120. If I cancel three and go with unlimited with Binge on, on, it would cost jus about as much for one line as I am paying for the my four lines so I am keeping them although I don't need them. It's just fun to have.

Also, both of my S7 Edge, were preorders, T-Mobile was supposed to cancel one but sent it anyways. I ended up keeping both because I didn't want to deal with the hassle of sending it back and waiting for all the charges to cancel.
 

Lloydbm41

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If I keep the s7 edge, I will owe 792.00 to pay off in 24 months. That means I could not upgrade to the iPhone 8 unless I pay at least 50% off. I already had my iPhone 6s+ for one year. The things the S7 have that are nice but not necessary are 4k screen, better notifications. Other than that, to me there is no difference.
S7 does not have a 4k screen. It is 2k.
 

Lloydbm41

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Neither. As I said above, I have four lines on T-Mobile for $120. If I cancel three and go with unlimited with Binge on, on, it would cost jus about as much for one line as I am paying for the my four lines so I am keeping them although I don't need them. It's just fun to have.

Also, both of my S7 Edge, were preorders, T-Mobile was supposed to cancel one but sent it anyways. I ended up keeping both because I didn't want to deal with the hassle of sending it back and waiting for all the charges to cancel.
If you are currently on a simple choice plan and wish to alter your current lines by cancelling, you will be forced onto the T-Mobile One plan, which is $75 for one line. (If you do autopay, it is $70). Binge-on 480p video is already preset in the One plan. Only way to watch higher quality video is to get a $3 daily HD pass or pay for One Plus which will push your bill up another $15 a month.

I happen to work for T-Mobile. AMA.
 

Russtopher

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I haven't shopped around. But I'm on the T-Mobile pre-paid ($40.00 per month) and quite satisfied with it. Very good coverage and customer service. I had a very negative experience with Verizon.

RB
 

JackieInCo

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If you are currently on a simple choice plan and wish to alter your current lines by cancelling, you will be forced onto the T-Mobile One plan, which is $75 for one line. (If you do autopay, it is $70). Binge-on 480p video is already preset in the One plan. Only way to watch higher quality video is to get a $3 daily HD pass or pay for One Plus which will push your bill up another $15 a month.

I happen to work for T-Mobile. AMA.
Which is why I will keep my 4 lines for $120. I already get HD included plus a data bucket for each line.
 

JackieInCo

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Good call. I'm in the same boat. I have an old simple choice 4 lines for $150 with unlimited everything plus 14gb of LTE tethering. Not giving that up ever!
Plus, you get tetthering included in those plans too. Withe the T-Mobile One plan, you gotta pay extra to do that.

A few months back, my Comcast internet went down at night and I wanted to use my ATV to do some streaming of some purchases. I used my iPhone to tether to my ATV and was able to do that and with the 10GB Data Stash, I had plenty of data to do that as well. I used 11GB that night and still had 9Gb to get through the month.

My 4 lines have 10GB data plus the data stash on each so have more then enough data for anything I could ever want.
 

timeconsumer

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Hi All,

I took advantage of Verizon's price drop on the S7 edge and am coming from an iPhone 6S Plus.
We currently are trying them and my wife is not happy with the way android works and the battery life of her S7. Came with free VR

The S7 pluses for me is:
1. screen resolution
2. customizations
3. notifications and sounds

minus's are:
1. many say scratches easy.
2. cannot find a decent screen protector
3. bloated software
4. many apps do the same thing (confusing)

iPhone 6S plus (likes)
1. About a year old, no issues
2. glass screen protector
3. IOS
4. have mac
5. have apple tv

I am having a hard time deciding. Would like some feedback. Thanks

While you stated the pluses of the S7 for you, what made you decide to make a change in the first place? Also, how long have you used the devices?

I've found that in the past when I've tried to use Android devices I would be amazed with the device the first day and by the second day I would immediately want to return the device. Mostly because things were different and I just wanted to go back what I knew. Which is odd because one of my reasons for picking up an Android phone was because I wanted a change.

I did read that you've already gone back to the iPhones, but I'm just curious as to what prompted you to pick up the S7's as you already have the 6s which is still a top phone.
 
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