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Everyone needs to take a chill pill. I have a new SR MBP, its great. Screen is nice, case is nice, screen isn't perfectly aligned but it has actually gotten better with everyday use. It used to run a little hot but it is actually running cooler the more I use it. I think apple makes a great product, and they have amazing technical support.

If it works fine, then don't worry about it. You have a warrenty in case something should happen, and if you are really concerned, but the extended applecare plan.
 
Is this a wind up? :confused:

Do you stay in your house all day because 'potentially' you could get run over by a bus?

This thread delivers. After seeing The Simpson's at midnight I woke up craving some comedy. Definitely delivered.

Edit @ robrose20: From my experiences with building computers...after some use, i.e. heating and cooling repeatedly, the thermal paste settles and cools your computer better. Especially since they put a little too much on.
 
Just when I thought I read everything, I click on this thread and get a laugh and a :eek:

Some people should not be allowed to ever make their own decisions. These are the people who should live under Mommy and Daddys roof for the rest of their lives!

MY MBP is perfect still after two full weeks but I'm thinking of seeing if I can still return it because somethings just not right here. GET REAL!!!!
 
seriously...lay off the guy. if he wants to return his laptop then let him, it's his hard earned 3000 bucks that he dropped...not yours. i can understand where he's coming from, i mean just at the thread on the yellow-tint issue. not exactly encouraging is it? and yes while most people experience their issues within the first week of purchase but that's not always the case. i bought the last release of the MBPs using Core Duo processors and 2 days after 2 weeks past my keyboard and trackpad completely died. i took it into the store thinking i'm going to have to send this off to get it repaired but luckily this really nice manager offered me a switch for the new MBPs that had the Core2Duos inside.

so yeah, unless all of you here pitched in for his laptop then quit it with the smart ass comments. if the guy is willing to pay the 10% restocking fee and wait till Apple irons out the issues and what not, who are y'all to tell him otherwise :confused:
 
seriously...lay off the guy. if he wants to return his laptop then let him, it's his hard earned 3000 bucks that he dropped...not yours. i can understand where he's coming from, i mean just at the thread on the yellow-tint issue. not exactly encouraging is it? and yes while most people experience their issues within the first week of purchase but that's not always the case. i bought the last release of the MBPs using Core Duo processors and 2 days after 2 weeks past my keyboard and trackpad completely died. i took it into the store thinking i'm going to have to send this off to get it repaired but luckily this really nice manager offered me a switch for the new MBPs that had the Core2Duos inside.

so yeah, unless all of you here pitched in for his laptop then quit it with the smart ass comments. if the guy is willing to pay the 10% restocking fee and wait till Apple irons out the issues and what not, who are y'all to tell him otherwise :confused:

Well, it's just because he's going to drive himself crazy.

More specifically, if he thinks that he can return his MBP and go spend his money on some mythical laptop from a company that makes machines with a 0% defect rate, he's going to keep buying laptops, reading forums, getting worried that his machine will fail, and return it for the restocking fee.

-Zadillo
 
like i said in my post, what he wants to do is his decision...maybe it might be a bit too anal or OCD for some of you but he's hardly punching kittens and kicking puppies here, yeah? methinks he may worry more than most do but that hardly qualifies the quality response he's been getting. for the record to the guy with the car example, hell yeah i'd be taking my car back to the dealership to get it checked at the very least if not a full return! 50% chance the breaks don't work?! :eek:

yes, i know that quoting the "50% of ..." is a pretty dumb thing to quote but what difference does it make to y'all if he kept the laptop to use as a soccer ball or took the refund and stuffed it down a stripper's g-string? if it's that much of a waste to see him return it then someone offer to buy it now...no really, let's not all jump in with the offers now...
 
like i said in my post, what he wants to do is his decision...maybe it might be a bit too anal or OCD for some of you but he's hardly punching kittens and kicking puppies here, yeah? methinks he may worry more than most do but that hardly qualifies the quality response he's been getting. for the record to the guy with the car example, hell yeah i'd be taking my car back to the dealership to get it checked at the very least if not a full return! 50% chance the breaks don't work?! :eek:

yes, i know that quoting the "50% of ..." is a pretty dumb thing to quote but what difference does it make to y'all if he kept the laptop to use as a soccer ball or took the refund and stuffed it down a stripper's g-string? if it's that much of a waste to see him return it then someone offer to buy it now...no really, let's not all jump in with the offers now...

You're right, obviously he can do whatever he wants.

Personally I'm just trying to explain to him that he will never find a laptop from ANY manufacturer that will meet the standard he is looking for (a laptop that would be guaranteed to never have a problem).

-Zadillo
 
To OP(if you're still around):I bet 90% of that original "50%" (insert s******) were defective because they were DOA or had a yellow tint.
Be thankful that you got a good product, which probably won't develop any problems. If you're still going to return it after what everyone has said the date that is being thrown around for the next update is about Jan 8th.
 
RULE ONE OF THE INTERTUBES:

When you buy something new, if it is working fine, DONT POKE AROUND FORUMS.

People come to forums to get help for problems. Of all the macs sold, most of the people with problems end up on a forum. Those who don't have problems, may never post here.

Macbooks and Macbook Pros are fine. When the small percentage have a problem, they either call apple, or come to a forum like this. So it looks skewed because the sampling population of forums are usually people with a problem!
 
there's a fair bit of abuse going around here. if you want TXroadie to understand your point of view, abuse isn't going to help.

TXroadie; yes, there have been some issues with the MacBook Pros. But at the end of the day, Apple are still selling them, they haven't made a recall, and sales rates are still through the roof. If they were really that bad, a recall would have been made, and sales/profit would have slumped in a big way.
 
I've had one Mac Mini (core solo) show up DOA and a 17" iMac (G5, pre-iSight) die on me. The dead iMac occurred first...

I was out of warranty and thought I was screwed. Until I happened upon this. Dropped it off at my local Apple-Authorized service provider and had it back (with a new logic board and new power supply) in less than 48 hours...and at no cost to me. Called up Apple afterwards and they let me buy Applecare even though i was a good 14 months past my purchase date (I sure it didn't hurt that I practically had a new iMac in front of me at that point).

When I received the DOA Mac Mini (from Amazon), I didn't even concern myself with returning it. I calmly drove down to the same AASP, dropped it off, and picked it up two days later...new logic board and all (again, at no cost to me).

My experience is that if something goes wrong Apple WILL make it right. That has been my experience. If anything, my abnormally high rate of failure has given me MORE confidence in my Apple purchases. As I know that Apple will step up.
 
If there;s a report that 50% of the buses on the street are on a stampede, yes- I might just stay indoors, or excercise extreme caution.

Okay, then I'm telling you right now. 50% of the buses in the street are death traps. You have a 50% chance that the bus you get on next will burst into flames, trapping you in a fiery, agonizing death.

Stay inside now. Evidently, you believe any non-authoritative source that can pull any figure out of a hat and present it to you.


I am planning on returning it because of the issues tons of people have ALREADY EXPERIENCED, and the QUALITY CONTROL of Apple is being questioned.

I'm sorry, but your logic continues to be flawed. You are basing your logic on a forum that is intended to be a support base for people with questions and problems with their Apple product. That means that - surprise, surprise - a healthy majority of posts on here are going to be something like "my mac is broken! what's wrong OMG APPLE sucks!" Meanwhile, a hefty amount of people with functioning Apple products are going to remain largely silent, because it normally doesn't strike people as worth it to post a message saying "hey, no reason for posting! My mac is fine!"


My thinking was that I should return this, and once Apple irons out the present issues and its QC problems, then I would buy it.


If you're convinced that your Mac is going to fail, then return it. Clearly you've made up your mind, and no one can persuade you otherwise... including the empirical evidence of you owning this machine for a week now, without incident.

As for when you buy a new one? Never. I recommend that you never buy one again. Mac is just not for you. As is apparently, any cutting edge product, for that matter.

Lastly, as you're returning your MacBook Pro for someone else to buy as a reduced-price refurb that they will enjoy for years to come, chew on this: Apple made a HUGE profit this past quarter, on record sales of Mac computers. Generally, a company with a 50% failure rate on their products does not make a profit, because they are too busy losing money on their product returns. Yet the financial results suggest that while iPods and iPhones continue t fuel revenue, more people than ever before are happily buying Macs, and most of them tend to work just fine.

Count me as one of them: I own a MacBook Pro, and I'm happy enough that when my desktop Windows computer finally dies, I'm going all-Mac.

EDIT: Is this post "abusing" the OP? I don't really think so. S/he has taken a defeatist approach to the possibility of owning a Mac, and is assuming their MBP will fail without any direct evidence that their particular machine will have any problems at all. How do you defend or persuade against that? You simply don't, and if the person has already made up their mind that all Apple products are damaged goods, then they are probably better off not buying Apple, plain and simple. I will just find it overwhelming funny and ironic if they buy a Dell and end up having to get it fixed under warranty, as I have many Dell products have that we've bought at work (I estimate a 30-40% failure rate, based on my history with them).
 
TXRoadie:

Apple is shipping over 6 million Macs per year. Approximately 1/2 of their Mac sales are laptops.

Even if 1% of these 3 million machines sold per year were having problems, it would be 30,000 people complaining of problems.

Do you really see 30,000 people on here complaining?

I would bet if you added it up, there is way less than 1,000 people on here complaining of problems.

The reality is that the happy product users are the silent majority. They are happy with their product, and would rather just use it then to go online and say how great it is. The select few with problems tend to be more vocal.

You really need to ditch this 50% statistic you have in your head. Your friend has led you astray. People feel an online forum is representative of the general population, where in reality it is a select group of people that come online, so the results are skewed.

Your machine is fine. Enjoy it!
 
there's a fair bit of abuse going around here. if you want TXroadie to understand your point of view, abuse isn't going to help.

TXroadie; yes, there have been some issues with the MacBook Pros. But at the end of the day, Apple are still selling them, they haven't made a recall, and sales rates are still through the roof. If they were really that bad, a recall would have been made, and sales/profit would have slumped in a big way.

Based on most of the responses I've received, I can tell that I was not able to express my concern clearly... and that has made you all think that I am just a simple idiot who is looking to cause trouble. I guess my grip on the english language is not as strong as I thought.

Thanks a lot for the responses (even though most of them essentially involved calling me a dumbas*). We can consider this thread to be closed.
 
Thanks a lot for the responses (even though most of them essentially involved calling me a dumbas*). We can consider this thread to be closed.

I don't think anyone called you a dumba**. It's just your thought process that we find a little off. I think you relayed your opinion, flawed as we believe it is, just perfectly.

Most reasonable individuals do not typically return an item that they are happy with because they have an abstract and unverified notion that they potentialy won't be happy later. Particularly when the seller of that product is guaranteeing that for at least a year and as late as three years down the road, they will make a good faith effort to make SURE you're happy. It just seems odd for someone to spontaneously become a Panicky Jane, declaring theirs a total loss before it even shows the slightest inclination of trouble. Especially considering you're going to take a financial hit to return your so-far-perfectly-working computer.

Good luck with your next laptop, whatever it may be.
 
Based on most of the responses I've received, I can tell that I was not able to express my concern clearly... and that has made you all think that I am just a simple idiot who is looking to cause trouble. I guess my grip on the english language is not as strong as I thought.

Thanks a lot for the responses (even though most of them essentially involved calling me a dumbas*). We can consider this thread to be closed.

What concern?

Your english is just fine, and we caught your point precisely. You are concerned because of "numerous" complaints on these forums regarding MacBook Pros, and even though your machine is not afflicted you seem to think that the posts on this very forum imply that your currently perfect machine will fail in the foreseeable future.

If that is not being silly I do not know what that is.

Newsflash: 100% of all human beings die at some point in time. Since I am currently healthy, I think I should give up my life now because I think I too will die at some point.

You are crazy, yes, that is precisely your logic.
 
There is a huge potential for a problem to come up... since 50% of the macbook pros have issues.
You have nothing to back this up. You can quote anything you want, but those quotes are most likely coming from forums like this one. You can even cite a news article and you'll still be wrong because those are misleading. The statistical number you deliver is not a proper number. Apple has never released (and they would be the ones who could get this done) anything that really detailed the number of returned MBPs. Apple would want to take the population and build their numbers off that. They'd tell us the number sold and compare to the number returned due to defect. Do you have this data? No you do not. So my friend, take your MBP back and buy a less expensive machine from some other company. Wait until the MBP has been through it's 4th revision and then buy. Each revision will host a small new feature no doubt so that is something else you gotta worry about.

Your machine works, I'm sorry to hear that.
So could anyone please tell me when it will be safe to buy an MBP?
Yes. In your case, never.
 
this guy seems like a total tool. dont you research before you buy and then make your decision on that, and not rely on your research after the fact to think the machine is c rap it doesnt make any sense.
 
Roadie, please do not do what I think you're planning on doing...Apple just released a MBP so there won't be another for awhile most likely. And even if there was, you wouldn't want to buy it. The first generation of any tech product, especially from Apple, has problems. I'd stick with what you got, especially since it's fine so far. You're being a bit paranoid. Obviously you'll find lots of fault-full stories on this site because people don't go online very often to write how wonderfully well their machines running, they go online when they're having issues.
 
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op, i dont really understand why you want to return your computer when it doesnt have any problems. You said that 50% if mbps have problems (which is not true) then yours is obviously in that other 50 percent that is fine. My new mbp is flawless... Why fix it if it aint broken?
 
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