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SuperKerem

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Please do not instruct other posters how to post here unless you are a mod. All have a right to their opinion and it is what makes these forums work so well.
Redundant and empty posts are against the rules.

In any case I was telling him what to do if he seeks an answer to his question without copying and pasting my response which would have also broken the rules.
 

maratus

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Ok, let me bring the discussion back to the topic.

I don't need any advice on the amount of RAM I need / want / think is appropriate for my specific needs, including multitasking use cases and future-proofing. Neither I asked anyone to come up with excuses on why 2GB is appropriate for an iPad in 2016. I have enough experience and knowledge to know what do I need for myself. And yes, I'm not forcing anyone to only buy tablets with 4GB because I don't really care as long as you're happy with that. Please, don't flood this thread.


I'm still waiting for another user to confirm that all iPad Pro 9.7" versions have the same amount of RAM.
 
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rui no onna

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I'm still waiting for another user to confirm that all iPad Pro 9.7" versions have the same amount of RAM.
I think you'll likely need to wait until the 30th/31st for review embargo to end or the iPad is released to get confirmation on this.
 
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Patriot24

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I think you'll likely need to wait until the 30th/31st for review embargo to end or the iPad is released to get confirmation on this.

Serious question - has there ever been a difference in onboard RAM between models with different storage options? I feel like that's a no-win situation for Apple:

  • Same RAM across line = "I paid all of this extra money for the 128GB model and don't even get more RAM? Thanks, Apple"
  • Different RAM across line = "This is a joke. They're just gouging us all by forcing us to upgrade! Thanks, Apple"
 
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rui no onna

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Serious question - has there ever been a difference in onboard RAM between models with different storage options?
So far, nope.

I feel like that's a no-win situation for Apple:

  • Same RAM across line = "I paid all of this extra money for the 128GB model and don't even get more RAM? Thanks, Apple"
  • Different RAM across line = "This is a joke. They're just gouging us all by forcing us to upgrade! Thanks, Apple"
Yeah, I know. It's pretty much a no-win for Apple. Either way, there'll be users complaining. That said, in the unlikely event that the 256GB LTE model has more RAM, then I'll be very happy. :D
 

Max(IT)

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I used Auria on both the Air 1 and Air 2, and the extra RAM on the Air 2 definitely makes a difference when projects get big. How? Go talk to the guy who develops the Auria app on their forum, or any of the developers who make big apps that make use of all the iPad's available resources, and they'll tell you how it's beneficial. Also, with music apps on the iPads, a lot of people use AudioBus to connect multiple apps. More RAM can help make that process run smoother.
I went to their website and I didn't found ANY evidence that their app could benefit from more than 2 Gb of RAM...
 

joeblow7777

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Serious question - has there ever been a difference in onboard RAM between models with different storage options? I feel like that's a no-win situation for Apple:

  • Same RAM across line = "I paid all of this extra money for the 128GB model and don't even get more RAM? Thanks, Apple"
  • Different RAM across line = "This is a joke. They're just gouging us all by forcing us to upgrade! Thanks, Apple"

I don't see any reason why available RAM should be different for different capacities. They are unrelated features. Why not have different RAM options for different colours too?
 

rui no onna

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I don't see any reason why available RAM should be different for different capacities. They are unrelated features. Why not have different RAM options for different colours too?
Not so much because of features but price point. For obvious reasons, Apple has much higher profit margins on larger capacity models. Even with a RAM upgrade, profit margin for higher end models would still be greater than the profit margin on the base model so theoretically, Apple could easily afford to increase RAM on higher end models.
 

joeblow7777

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Not so much because of features but price point. For obvious reasons, Apple has much higher profit margins on larger capacity models. Even with a RAM upgrade, profit margin for higher end models would still be greater than the profit margin on the base model so theoretically, Apple could easily afford to increase RAM on higher end models.

But why should they? People pay more for the higher capacity. Why should Apple throw in more RAM? It's just going to make people feel like they're being forced to buy higher capacity just to get the RAM they want, or vice versa.
 

rui no onna

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But why should they? People pay more for the higher capacity. Why should Apple throw in more RAM? It's just going to make people feel like they're being forced to buy higher capacity just to get the RAM they want, or vice versa.
And again, that's the reason why it's highly unlikely for Apple to do this. Other manufacturers (e.g. Motorola) have done it, though. Of course, when the 16GB eMMC/2GB RAM model costs $220 and the 8GB eMMC/1GB RAM $180, it's a lot easier to justify. :p

I guess the OP is hoping higher end models would have more RAM but I reckon that's a very low probability event.
 
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Marshall73

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Individual apps don't benefit from the device having 4GB of RAM however it makes things smoother when running apps side by side. The 9.7 pro is incredibly fast, featuring both faster RAM and NAND storage than the Air 2. This helps it load and launch apps much faster and also helps when swapping apps in and out of save states. Don't expect this to become a slouch for a good few years to come.
 
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Ben foong

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If you are going to be using a stylus, the Apple Pencil is really up there for the best quality.

In your case I would recommend the 9.7' Pro, if that's your preferred size (a new one won't come out for a while).

Well unless Apple axes it after 6 months and introduced a "refined" version like they did with the ipad 3 and 4 fiasco
 

fertilized-egg

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Yes, all three iPad 'Pro' devices have a measly 2GB :D

Get the Air 2 if you're looking for a 9.7' tablet and don't need an Apple Pencil.

Get the Pro 12.9 if you're looking for something bigger.

I have the Air 2 and the new Pro feels substantially faster in use, very noticeable in Safari. Not to mention the Pro also has a number of other significants updates in display, speakers, and camera.

It's like recommending a person to buy the iPad 3 over iPad 4 because they have the same amount of RAM.
 
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SuperKerem

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I have the Air 2 and the new Pro feels substantially faster in use, very noticeable in Safari. Not to mention the Pro also has a number of other significants updates in display, speakers, and camera.

It's like recommending a person to buy the iPad 3 over iPad 4 because they have the same amount of RAM.

No, because the performance increase is only 15% or so.

Planned obsolescence... but hey that's just me.
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The 256GB 9.7" Pro has 2GB of RAM according to Geekbench.
Serious or sarcastic?

Either way, one thing that it is, for sure, is redundant.
 

BlackbookGuy

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Sounds to me that the iPad Pro 12.9' will be the one for you, if you're invested in the Apple ecosystem.

It's more powerful than the 9.7' and will last a lot longer with double the RAM.

A larger canvas is also a good thing!
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Not for long! It's almost guaranteed that the next 9.7' iPad will have 4GB.

I don't have any idea if that is correct or not and I'm happy with my new iPad pro 9.7 but then its my first iPad so I have nothing to compare it to. But why do you say it is? What are your criteria for determining there will be more RAM next time? Just curious.
 

SuperKerem

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I don't have any idea if that is correct or not and I'm happy with my new iPad pro 9.7 but then its my first iPad so I have nothing to compare it to. But why do you say it is? What are your criteria for determining there will be more RAM next time? Just curious.
Well, the bigger Pro would have had 4GB of RAM for well over a year by the time the next smaller Pro comes out. I see it as the next logical upgrade for a new pro product.

Also, Apple received quite a bit of backlash, especially in the pro community, over the 2GB of RAM. So there's that.
 
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