With respect to the dots, there is no need for the dots at the bottom of the page if the number of pages limit is removed. And early jailbroken phones with 1.x firmware allowed for more than 9 pages. If you exceeded 9 pages, then additional dots would appear at the bottom of the page. Once no more dots fit on the screen, they probably continued to be added, but you could not see them on the screen. The dots aren't used for anything. Do you memorize which page one of you apps is on and use the dots to determin it? I assume not. Also, if you could tap a dot and go to that page, then the dots would be useful. Since you can't they are pretty much useless. And on jailbroken phones, you can remove the dots altogether, so they serve no purpose other than to remind you if you are getting close to the 9 page limit. And Apple could solve the fact that you couldn't find an app easily by adding a Search feature that would search for the app and provide you with a list of apps with the word that you are searching (similar to the Contacts search). So there are ways to resolve every perceived obstacle. It only takes a bit of thought and ingenuity. This is not rocket science.
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Reached max apps, now what Apple?
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There are two major opinions being echoed throughout this thread and I agree with parts of both.
Camp A: To the OP, why do you need 9 pages of apps? 9 pages x 16 apps per page = 145 apps! Nobody needs that many.
Camp B: We should have the ability to have over 9 pages. Who's to judge how many apps is "too many?"
I think 140+ apps is crazy. However, I have 80 apps installed and most of my friends think I'm crazy.
Camp A: To the OP, why do you need 9 pages of apps? 9 pages x 16 apps per page = 145 apps! Nobody needs that many.
Camp B: We should have the ability to have over 9 pages. Who's to judge how many apps is "too many?"
I think 140+ apps is crazy. However, I have 80 apps installed and most of my friends think I'm crazy.
I'd like more pages also.
I'm using all nine but only the last and one other is full. I like keeping the bottom row empty. For some reason, it really disturbs me to swipe *over* the app icons. I've taken off apps that I would like on the phone - just in case - but am doing without them as I hate the clutter.
Another strange thing, for me, is that it's difficult to find the app when the page is full. 9 icons is about right to quickly find what you're looking for. My brain just kind of glosses over when there are 12.
So yeah...more pages, please.
I'm using all nine but only the last and one other is full. I like keeping the bottom row empty. For some reason, it really disturbs me to swipe *over* the app icons. I've taken off apps that I would like on the phone - just in case - but am doing without them as I hate the clutter.
Another strange thing, for me, is that it's difficult to find the app when the page is full. 9 icons is about right to quickly find what you're looking for. My brain just kind of glosses over when there are 12.
So yeah...more pages, please.
Well, yes, I do. It's more a "knowing" rather than memorization. I have my apps organized by type or how I use them.
Another reason I'd like more pages - to fine-tune the organization.
This is really getting annoying now. I love looking over appshopper.com and every time I go to get an app, I have to find something to delete. Plus you can't do app updates without removing something so I have one square available for the download. I tried the catagories app but it 1) looks ugly (why didn't that make it look more the iPhone's springboard) and 2) takes 5 seconds to load the folder. (That isn't their fault as ALL apps have that dumb operating system delay).
An excellent point. Most people can only visually handle 5-9 objects at a time.
This can be increased if there's extra visual grouping (adding the dock, or having a custom background).
Here is my idea for an updated iPhone UI, starting from the bottom of the screen:
Dock, pretty much as it is now.
Catagories selector
And just below the info bar.....
Sweet, beautiful coverflow.
The catagories selector would change what items coverflow was showing. They could be taken right from app store catagories. The dock could optionally be set up to change based on catagory. You could even add a row to the dock.
Dock, pretty much as it is now.
Catagories selector
And just below the info bar.....
Sweet, beautiful coverflow.
The catagories selector would change what items coverflow was showing. They could be taken right from app store catagories. The dock could optionally be set up to change based on catagory. You could even add a row to the dock.
The first gen iPod was not available in 40GB. When the third generation hit, the max was 30GB, and was eventually bumped to 40GB.
Maybe both.
Yep, works well.
You clearly have never worked in a hardware or software development company!!!
Categories would be nice.
At first, I used many apps. Basically testing out new apps and features. After a few months, my app use has narrowed quite a bit. Even so, it would be nice if Apple supported more apps, and had more memory allocated to running apps.
It would also be nice if the iPhone had more RAM. 128MB just isn't enough. 256MB would be a lot better.
144 limit of apps is a REAL problem - really!
I also have had 9 screens of apps, and I don't like having to manage them back and forth to iTunes. I want them ALL available at any time. I take the "swiss army" knife approach to apps - I see it and I install it and might not even try it until some crazy situation comes around.... For instance I installed some free "carpenters level" and hardly even tried it until one day I was near a cabinet maker who was using one, so I slapped my phone down and showed him mine! Fun to have an app for every occasion.
I post this, because too many guys seem to be disbelieving that someone might want this. I do.
So we need some way to make subcategories of apps.
I don't want to jailbreak my 3G - I did all that stuff on the original iphone, but now I shouldn't have to. I buy tons of apps, and when I pay my money I want the app available forever right now - not with a sync and having to choose what I delete today.
It sucks now, and we need things to be better for app management.
Hope my post convinces everyone that this is a real true problem that needs to be solved.
Cheers and Happy New Year!
I also have had 9 screens of apps, and I don't like having to manage them back and forth to iTunes. I want them ALL available at any time. I take the "swiss army" knife approach to apps - I see it and I install it and might not even try it until some crazy situation comes around.... For instance I installed some free "carpenters level" and hardly even tried it until one day I was near a cabinet maker who was using one, so I slapped my phone down and showed him mine! Fun to have an app for every occasion.
I post this, because too many guys seem to be disbelieving that someone might want this. I do.
So we need some way to make subcategories of apps.
I don't want to jailbreak my 3G - I did all that stuff on the original iphone, but now I shouldn't have to. I buy tons of apps, and when I pay my money I want the app available forever right now - not with a sync and having to choose what I delete today.
It sucks now, and we need things to be better for app management.
Hope my post convinces everyone that this is a real true problem that needs to be solved.
Cheers and Happy New Year!
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This is really getting annoying now. I love looking over appshopper.com and every time I go to get an app, I have to find something to delete. Plus you can't do app updates without removing something so I have one square available for the download.
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This is really getting annoying now. I love looking over appshopper.com and every time I go to get an app, I have to find something to delete. Plus you can't do app updates without removing something so I have one square available for the download.
+1
There are two major opinions being echoed throughout this thread and I agree with parts of both.
Camp A: To the OP, why do you need 9 pages of apps? 9 pages x 16 apps per page = 145 apps! Nobody needs that many.
Camp B: We should have the ability to have over 9 pages. Who's to judge how many apps is "too many?"
I think 140+ apps is crazy. However, I have 80 apps installed and most of my friends think I'm crazy.
It's not crazy to have 140 apps at all. Try it - what's the harm.. Don't you want more? Most of my apps take almost no space at all.
I still have 7 gigs free on my iphone, and I have some video and songs on there too, albeit not a huge load of tunes - just what I need to get by.
Check this out - if I want to check out stock portfolio management apps (as a simple example) - I search for the apps I want, get all the free one's right away and see how they do. Then I might buy a few of the hopefulls... I am still searching for the ultimate stock app, but I think I downloaded around 6 or 10 different stock quoter things and portfolio managment things. I have been forced to dump a few of them, so I can check out apps in other areas of interest - like Chess..... I have like 5 programs for chess right now... Sure I like Caissa a lot, but there are other cool takes on Chess - so I want them all - thats another 5 or 10 apps maybe.
144 apps is nothing.. I want to have as many as I want. So please voice this over to Apple so they fix this ASAP.
No, I disagree - if it were 1000 apps or something, that would do me for a while for sure.
And if I installed 1000 apps, I dunno, maybe then my 16 gig memory might be an issue - maybe.
But hey I'd even be happy with 255 apps right now..
144 apps is not enough
Does anyone even use that many apps?
Yes. Lots of people do. I'm already on 7 pages, and I have just a couple of free apps, the rest are apps that I've needed/wanted & bought. Having a phone/PDA which can store several hundred apps, and artificially limiting it to 9 pages is just silly and counter-productive.
It's pretty obvious the success of the App Store has blindsided Apple. They would never release a Mac which would reach its "app capacity" within a year, thus acting as a deterrent to people who want to buy more apps. It's in their interests to fix this, and they will.
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I want to install more apps but cannot do so easily, and that needs to be fixed.
Since profit is involved, I am hoping it will happen soon - so long as the Apple engineers are not like the dumb posts here about "who would ever possibly need that many apps". They gotta fix it, and they will because it's the money that matters.
Correction, 144 apps is not enough for you. I think you are going to find you are in the extreme minority on this one and in all likelihood you DO have apps installed that you don't open for days, weeks or months at a time.
The point I was making is that Apple could double it to 18 pages of apps tomorrow and people would start another thread soon afterwards moaning about how 288 apps is far too few, they've filled it up and they need more.
Apple has far bigger fish to fry than adding additional app pages for the .1% OCD individuals like yourself who seem to have a problem with juggling between hundreds of iphone applications.
It's amusing is that some people still prattle on about how other phones are trying to "copy the iPhone UI".
Nobody wants to copy the Home page. It is way too simplistic for serious users.
The fairly static Home page design is one reason why so many people jailbreak. Even users of other phones are no longer installing iPhone lookalike start pages. (What's hot for other phones right now is copying the HTC TouchFlo 3D style. I suspect Apple will eventually copy its cool weather animations. And they should. They're fun.)
Apple had a chance to create something unique, with clever ways of organizing and displaying active personal information, but they opted for a simple 1980's style icon grid... without even 1980's folder capability.
The grid makes sense when you realize they originally didn't want to support third party native apps, or even web apps. The whole idea was to have a simpler phone with just a few nice app choices and no submenus.
But the world and the iPhone have moved on, and Apple will have to come up with at least an optional improvement sooner or later.
Nobody wants to copy the Home page. It is way too simplistic for serious users.
The fairly static Home page design is one reason why so many people jailbreak. Even users of other phones are no longer installing iPhone lookalike start pages. (What's hot for other phones right now is copying the HTC TouchFlo 3D style. I suspect Apple will eventually copy its cool weather animations. And they should. They're fun.)
Apple had a chance to create something unique, with clever ways of organizing and displaying active personal information, but they opted for a simple 1980's style icon grid... without even 1980's folder capability.
The grid makes sense when you realize they originally didn't want to support third party native apps, or even web apps. The whole idea was to have a simpler phone with just a few nice app choices and no submenus.
But the world and the iPhone have moved on, and Apple will have to come up with at least an optional improvement sooner or later.
I completely agree. I think of the entire first page as like the Mac OS X Dock. This is my "favorites" page. I just wish I didn't have to flick through other pages to get to my uglier, less "favorite" apps. This is why I still like webapps. Webapps are tucked away in Safari in a FOLDER as bookmarks. How cool is that? Yeah, it was cool at first to make bookmarks on the homescreen, but with so many native apps now, it's useless to keep bookmarks there too.